3 Mar
2020
3 Mar
'20
2:16 a.m.
Nope, I forgot.? So now I just did and got the following interesting
selections:
NCP>set exeCUTOR nODE VENTI2:: ? one of the following:
?ACCOUNT??? PASSWORD??? USER
? or confirm with carriage return
So I guess that's how Tops-20 parses for it.? So I suppose--assuming
NMLT20 is actually going to swallow this particular parse tree--that
Tops-20 is like RSX and authenticates on a node and not a circuit basis.
When I talk about what was written in BLISS and what wasn't, I am
talking about a /seriously/ long time ago.? The first thing that DEC did
when I started in 1979 was stick me in a BLISS class and the mantra was
BLISS everywhere.?? That was over 40 years ago...? I can't even remember
what I had for breakfast yesterday.
Some of the Tops-20 monitor code for DECnet started out and was debugged
under Tops-10.? However, this is Macro-10.
On 3/2/20 8:07 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Did you see any SET EXEC TRANSMIT PASSWORD maybe?
Anyway, the NCP parsing in RSX is all written in MACRO-11, so it was
never shared with anything written in BLISS.
? Johnny
On 2020-03-03 00:55, Thomas DeBellis wrote:
I appear to have neither CIRCUIT VERIFICATION nor
NODE TRANSMIT
PASSWORD, viz:
??? NCP>set cirCUIT ni-0 ? ALL
???? ? or one of the following:
???? ?ACTIVE??? ???? BABBLE??? ? BLOCKING???? CHANNEL??? ?? COST
???? ?COUNTER????? DEAD
???? ?DTE??? ??? ? ? DYING??? ?? HELLO??? ??? INACTIVE??? ? LINE
???? ?LISTEN??? ?? MAXIMUM
???? ?NUMBER??? ???? OWNER??? ?? POLLING????? RECALL ROUTER
SERVICE????? STATE
???? ?TRANSMIT?????? TRIBUTARY?? TYPE??? ???? USAGE
??? NCP>set noDE venti2:: ? ALL
???? ? or one of the following:
???? ?ADDRESS?? CIRCUIT
???? ? or one of the following:
???? ?AREA??? ??? ? BROADCAST??? ??? BUFFER??? ????? CONSOLE COUNTER
???? ?CPU??? ??? ?? DELAY??? ??? ??? DIAGNOSTIC??? ? DUMP HARDWARE
???? ?HOST??? ??? ? IDENTIFICATION?? INACTIVITY??? ? INCOMING LOAD
???? ?MAXIMUM??? ?? OUTGOING??? ???? RETRANSMIT??? ? ROUTING SECONDARY
???? ?SEGMENT??? ?? SERVICE ?? SOFTWARE??????? STATE SUBADDRESSES
???? ?TERTIARY????? TYPE
I may be mis-remembering how our DN200 was configured.? I believe the
Top-20 NCP parser may have shared keyword tables with other DECnet
implementations via BLISS at one point. Anyway, I recall at least
some of it was BLISS.? I haven't look in that particular box lately,
but the parse tables appear to assembler now, with heavy uses of
GLXMAC macros.
The Tops-20 operator interface has two 'sub-modes', as it were: NCP
and LCP.? NCP parses DECnet related keywords.? LCP is used for LAT
configuration.? The operator subsystem is kind of neat; OPR parsers
send packets to Orion, a communications server and router.? It notes
an NCP subset and routes that to NMLT20 which contains just what you
think it would.
Early versions of NMLT20 (about 1980) appeared insufficiently
productized.? It could hang in a loop or (more frequently) crash for
no readily apparent reason. We submitted a rather large number of
SPR's...? However, it's quite stable now; I don't believe I've had a
single crash.? I have yet to come to a fully informed conclusion
about the lexical interface; I sometimes get the impression that it
parses for more than it can actually do.
Elsewhere in Tops-20, DECnet implementation is a mixed bag; most of
the monitor code appears finished; I go months without reboots and
that is with active development.? The user mode code is another
matter entirely.? I had my hands full fixing a number of issues with
DAP and FAL. It was /invaluable/ having heterogeneous HECnet nodes to
test against, RSX 11M+ and VMS. SETNOD needs some finishing and
perhaps some additional functionality.? I have yet to look at FTS; I
don't see how it can get or generate any traffic at all. The monitor
interface (NFT:) does not appear to be operational. Elsewhere
(perhaps Galaxy) appears to have no submission interface.? Johnny and
I have some minor tweaks to flush out with MAIL11 (in addition to the
changes that I've already put in).
On 3/2/20 3:25 PM, Robert Armstrong wrote:
>
> >I don't see where I would set an id and password in 7-1-CONFIG or
> in NCP.
>
> Don?t know about TOPS-20, but in NCP/NICE/NML it?s
>
> SET CIRCUIT ? VERIFICATION ENABLED
>
> and
>
> SET NODE ? TRANSMIT PASSWORD ?
>
> The password the remote node sends has to match the one that?s
> associated with that node in the local DECnet database.
>
> Bob
>