On 2019-04-12 02:19, Johnny Billquist wrote:
  On 2019-04-12 02:17, Johnny Billquist wrote:
  On 2019-04-12 02:02, Paul Koning wrote:
 
  On Apr 11, 2019, at 7:45 PM, Johnny Billquist
<bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
 On 2019-04-12 01:28, Supratim Sanyal wrote:
> Johnny - if I remember right, I have seen nodes with no names show 
> up at 
http://mim.update.uu.se/hecnet without names in brackets, for 
> my nodes when I haven?t told you to add them yet, or others too. no?
 "Known nodes" is a tricky thing. It might also be different for 
 different OSes. 
 It might be but it should not be.? The DECnet architecture specifies 
 precisely what the term means.
 Start with "active nodes": that means every node known to be reachable.
 Given that, "known nodes" is defined as the union of active nodes and 
 named nodes.? So a nameless node is known if it is shown as reachable 
 by routing data (or by having an active adjacency), but not otherwise. 
 
 Well, that is obviously not what RSX shows...
 And I doubt any system do. Because a node can never have any ideas 
 what nodes are reachable in other areas. Which is exactly the thing 
 about 23.1023.
 But I guess you could claim that 23.1023 is not *known* to be reachable.
 But RSX also show node that are known not to be reachable, and without 
 names, if they have counters associated. Just tested that with Mim. 
 
 D'oh. Sorry. I managed to confuse myself.
 Known nodes does not show a node that have no name and is known to not 
 be reachable.
 
 I guess your description of known nodes does match what RSX does, Paul. 
Ah... Bloody hell. I double confused myself. RSX do show nodes without a 
name, and which are known to be unreachable, when you request known nodes.
My confused postings happened because when you do a output to a file 
from NCP in RSX, the output actually gets appended to a file, and does 
not create a new file, and I accidentally directed output to already 
existing files that had been done earlier with similar commands, so I 
was actually looking at old outputs... :-/
   Johnny
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