On 2022-03-30 01:02, Thomas DeBellis wrote:
You mean like hook the terminal driver to grab output
for a particular
line and stash it someplace? Sounds dangerous... Maybe something a SWS
dude would do for you.
Like I said - nothing exists as such. If you want to be creative,
something like that is how I guess you'd do it. But it would definitely
not be straight forward. The terminal device driver in RSX is horribly
complex.
I know that this kind of functionality can be useful. Both when
investigating something suspicious as well as a tool for helping people.
But it's just not something that was designed into RSX.
Johnny
Terminal spying is vastly useful when you need it. In addition to
debugging EFTPSR and Kermit, I've also used it to debug SMTP and (back
in the day) ringing on a DL or DH line, although there were other ways
to do that. I don't immediately remember the name of the program that
grabbed stuff from BIGBUF, but I think it was in the SWSKIT. We also
used spying to provide evidence to lawyers on those (extraordinarily
rare) occasions when we needed to do something legal.
I've left CTYPEEK alone for now; it's just too easy for me to fall into
second system rabbit hole...
Yet, I just can't make myself feel comfortable about not knowing who
else is spying on what. To that end, I've started looking at having the
ACJ hook TLINK%. I think the code in the monitor may need some
enhancements. I had to do that for SPRIW% in order to implement a
Tops-20 NICE command for non-prived users.
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> On 3/29/22 6:41 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
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> RSX don't have anything equivalent to spying on another terminal.
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> Of course, someone could write a program that would enable you to do
> it, but I haven't seen one, and this would then be some non-DEC hack.
> Doubt that would be very relevant.
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> Johnny
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>> On 2022-03-30 00:38, Thomas DeBellis wrote:
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>> How do other DEC timesharing systems handle this?
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