12 Apr
2021
12 Apr
'21
8:09 p.m.
Looking through the DECUS library, I see there is a tool (maybe more) to
convert a .TSK image into absolute loader format.
So this already exist. Bob, you can ping me directly, and I can point
you to it. I have it on Mim, but it's inside a disk image, and there
might be multiple versions, so I should research this a little, if you
haven't.
Johnny
On 2021-04-12 20:02, Paul Koning wrote:
Ok, so you don't need overlays or any of that
funny stuff. Are there any macros in there? You could just use the paper tape tools
(pal11 and link11) to do the job. Or the assembler and linker in DOS-11.
Alternatively, there's an assembler and linker that runs on Linux, I forgot who wrote
it, it was mentioned not too long ago.
In any case, this would be a trivial link, so converting the resulting executable image
file to an equivalent LDA file would be easy enough.
paul
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On Apr 12, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Robert Armstrong
<bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions, guys, but I don't think that'll help.
What I want to do is to rebuild (after making some changes) Joe Lang's copy of
DEC's paper tape BASIC-11
http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/papertapeimages/DEC-11-LPTBA-B-PB_d…
There are three MACRO-11 source files that have to be separately assembled and then
linked into an absolute memory image.
Bob
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I don't remember the format of a task file, but object files in RSX and RT11 are
nearly identical. The difference is that the RT11 ones are "formatted binary",
the same structure as abs loader data, where records start with a byte of 1 followed by a
byte of 0, then load address and length (or the other way around). RSX uses RMS variable
length records instead, so you get a record containing a load address and data, but the
length is handled by RMS. The conversion between the two is pretty trivial.
PIP on RSTS can do this, for example RSX to RT11 would be "pip
foo.lda/fb=foo.obj".
I have somewhere a Python script that turns an a.out format executable (from the GNU
linker) into an abs loader file. Converting that to handle task files is likely to be
pretty easy.
paul
On Apr 12, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Steve Davidson
<steve at davidson.net> wrote:
RT emulation under RSTS should work as well. If I can find some time I can fix my router
and give you an account on PLUTO:: if that helps.
-Steve
SF:IP2
> On Apr 12, 2021, at 13:12, Robert Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> Thanks ? I don?t have RT11 at the moment; I have the RSX AME on VMS. I guess I
could set up RT11 on some simh, but I was looking for a shortcut.
>
> Bob
>
>
> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of
Steve Davidson
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 10:04 AM
> To: hecnet at update.uu.se
> Subject: Re: [HECnet] Task Buillder question
>
> Bob,
>
> You are looking for LDA format. TKB might be able to do it but LINK (RT-11) certainly
can.
>
> -Steve
>
> SF:IP2
>
>
> On Apr 12, 2021, at 12:57, Robert Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> Ok, this is a bit of an off the wall question, but ? can Task Builder (aka TKB)
build paper tape images in absolute loader format? Can anybody clue me in as to the magic
switch(es) to do this?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob