On Jun 30, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Gregg Levine
<gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello!
Something else, all of my PI devices, from one from Seven years ago
last December to one that arrived perhaps two years previously are all
32 bit devices, the build-it instructions presuppose that a lot of us
own Pi4 devices who're 64 bit capable. That card image the both of us
are interested in would need to work on both style systems.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at
gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Let me just say that almost all of my testing has been in 32-bit Raspbian on either a Pi
Zero W or an original Pi 1B. If you ignore section 2.3 of Raspbian.README, the document
describes how to install DECnet on a 32-bit system.
I?m not going to commit to building an image until I understand all of the ramifications.
Since RPT is moving 2 versions of piOS (32 and 64-bit kernels and associated userland
code), I would only consider building piOS images. Fortunately, the 64-bit PiOS has not
been released yet so we?re really only talking about a single image.
Let me see how much work is involved.
John.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:25 AM Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello!
> How about he's right? I do know I could sit down in front of an SSH
> terminal screen to an appropriate device and use the git tool to
> download the code and follow the instructions that should be inside
> the README file. However there must be some of us out on the list who
> can do that, but would rather use a previously constructed image for
> the purpose.
> -----
> Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at
gmail.com
> "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:12 AM Supratim Sanyal <supratim at riseup.net>
wrote:
>>
>> On 6/29/2020 20:45, John Forecast wrote:
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>> Recently I have found, and fixed, a number of bugs in the DECnet for Linux kernel
module. Some of
>> these bugs may be relevant for members of this mailing list who are using DECnet
for Linux,
>> especially on a Raspberry Pi.
>>
>> John - how about making our pandemic and politician-stressed lives a bit easier
and uploading a microSD image somewhere relieving us from having to go through the hoops?
>>
>>
https://github.com/JohnForecast/RaspbianDECnet/blob/master/README.Raspbian is
fantastic, BTW.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Regards
>> Supratim
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>> Major bugs fixed:
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>> - Ethernet Listen Timer was not implemented
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>> In addition, the check for an address change for the designated router (DR) was
missing
>> although there was a check if the DR?s priority had changed.
>>
>> Note: this code changes the format of /proc/net/decnet_dev to include the listen
timer value.
>> nml/nml2 needs to be rebuilt to understand the changed format.
>>
>> - System panic when using the loopback device (lo)
>>
>> The DECnet code was missing a destructor routine which is used to avoid data
copying.
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>> - The neighbour (adjacent node) code could be broken by kernel changes
>>
>> The code made use of a now deprecated feature (zero length array at the end of a
structure)
>> in order to access data in a surrounding structure. This happened to work ?by
chance?
>> until kernel 5.4.42 on 32-bit processors.
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>> - Interrupt message flow control was broken
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>> The flow control was a mixture of using the SEND/DONTSEND status of the data
>> subchannel and a message count. This seems to work between Linux systems but is
broken
>> when communicating with other systems - during the life of a logical link, the
remote system
>> could only send a single interrupt message while the Linux system could pretty
much send
>> as many interrupts as it wanted possibly overrunning the remote systems buffers.
>>
>> - Optional data on received connect confirm message was corrupted
>>
>> The code was getting the optional data from the wrong offset in the message.
>>
>> - Next hop cache problem
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>> 30 seconds after a logical link was taken down, the next hop cache entry was
deleted. As
>> part of this deletion, the link was taken ?down? which caused a neighbour entry
to be
>> created for the same node address but accessed via the loopback device. Sometimes
this
>> would cause the designated router to become accessible via the loopback device
and
>> subsequent connections would fail.
>>
>> - Intra-ethernet bit ignored
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>> The intra-ethernet bit in the routing flags is ignored on inbound traffic. If
there was a neighbour
>> entry for the remote node at connection time, everything would work correctly. If
there wad no
>> entry, all outbound traffic would be sent through the designated router for the
duration of
>> the logical link.
>>
>> - Promiscuous mode alters DECnet behaviour
>>
>> If the ethernet NIC used for DECnet had promiscuous mode enabled (e.g. using
tcpdump
>> for traffic tracing), the DECnet code would start seeing endnode hello?s,
populating
>> neighbour structures and causing the problems described above for the
intra-ethernet bit
>> to go away.
>>
>> New programs:
>>
>> DECnet Test Send and DECnet Test Receiver (DTS/DTR)
>>
>> Test programs created via reverse engineering the protocol exchanges. Used to
find a
>> number of the bugs described above.
>>
>> NML2
>>
>> New implementation of the Network Management Listener. Supports SUMMARY, STATUS
>> and CHARACTERISTICS for NODES, CIRCUITS and AREAS. It does not support LINKS
>> and OBJECTS which were in the old version but are system specific operations
which
>> were only visible from DECnet-VMS systems.
>>
>> The old version is still the default during installation. The new version can be
installed by:
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>> cd dnprogs/nml2
>> make
>> sudo make install
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>> which will overwrite the installed executable and man page.
>>
>> OS Support:
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>> As of 06/29/2020 the code has been tested with:
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>> Raspbian 2020-05-27 release with kernels 4.19.126 and 5.4.44 (32-bit only)
>>
>> Pi OS 2020-05-27 32-bit release with kernel 4.19.126 and 5.4.44
>>
>> pI OS 2020-05-27 (fully updated on 06/26/2020) with kernel 5.4.49
>>
>>
>> The source code and installation instructions are available at:
>>
>> <https://github.com/JohnForecast/RaspbianDECnet>
>>
>> John.
>>
>> --
>> Supratim Sanyal, W1XMT
>> 39.19151 N, 77.23432 W
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