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 On 1/15/21 4:21 PM, Peter Lothberg wrote:
 Well, MRC was receiving "suggestions" from Stu Grossman on how to do 
 it, but
 if my memory does not fail me the block size was 312, due to lack of 
 buffer space
 in the already crammed single section 512KW 2020. I'm afraid my tape 
 and disk-pack
 are in Seattle. I knew it was not 576 as it had two DUP-11's and using 
 it for transit failed...
 Quiz, do you knew what a DDP is?
 -P
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     *From: *"tommytimesharing" <tommytimesharing at gmail.com>
     *To: *"hecnet" <hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
     *Sent: *Friday, January 15, 2021 3:59:25 PM
     *Subject: *Re: [HECnet] Thousands of DECnet errors on Tops-20
     Was this maybe that magical version 5 of Tops-20 that MRC put
     together for the 2020?? I sure would love to see the sources for
     that!? I'm not sure if this is relevant, but the following macro
     in D36COM is of interest:
         DEFINE KNMMCS,<
         ;????????????? Symbol,Name,Cost, Maximum receive block size
         ??????? KNMMAC LD.TST,TST,? 1, 0?????????????????????? ;TST DEVICE
         ??????? KNMMAC LD.DTE,DTE,? 3, <^D576>???????????????? ;DTE DEVICE
         ??????? KNMMAC LD.KDP,KDP,? 4, <^D576>???????????????? ;KDP DEVICE
         ??????? KNMMAC LD.DDP,DDP,? 5, <^D576>???????????????? ;DDP DEVICE
         ??????? KNMMAC LD.CIP,CI,?? 2, <^D576>???????????????? ;CI DEVICE
         ??????? KNMMAC LD.NI ,NI,?? 1, <^D1504-%RTEHS>???????? ;NI DEVICE
         ??????? KNMMAC LD.DMR,DMR,? 2, <^D576>???????????????? ;DMR DEVICE
 ;END OF KNMMCS 
     What can be seen is that the maximum block size is 576 in _all_
     cases except the NI, which is 1476 bytes.? I don't know if any of
     these devices are relevant to the 2020; one assumes that the DTE,
     CI and NI are not.
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         On 1/12/21 3:29 PM, Peter Lothberg wrote:
         The DECnet segment size has to be the same "network wide".
         If I remember right DECnet looks at the two end nodes and uses
         the smalles segment size,
         so if there is any transit node in the path with a small
         segment size things will not work as
         it will drop packets bigger than it''s size.
         The only SW/HW combination I knew of that has other than 576
         is MRC/Stu DECnet for
         Tops20 4.x on DEC2020.
         -P