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SOL (59.10) =>NI-0-0 / QNA-0 <= STUPI (59.58) 2.49 -1 -1 1.26 STUPI (59.58) =>TCP-0-4 / TCP-0-4 <= CODA (2.7) 0.51 -1 -1 0.37 CODA (2.7) =>TCP-0-7 / TCP-0-0 <= GORVAX (1.400) 2.50 -1 -1 1.44 GORVAX (1.400) =>QNA-0 / ISA-0 <= ORAC (1.250) 1.50 4 1 1.50 Any chance you talk "multinet" or "cisco" encapsulation of DECnet over IP, as I think we are making a detour Sweden-UK... ..and, why not talk smtp over DECnet transport, we used to do that 1988 or so to avoid having -not-needed- rewites of addresses... -P Ps; SOL is also Sol.Stupi.SE