On 2022-11-22 06:02, Thomas DeBellis wrote:
  Trying to unravel some of this very informative
thread. 
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 On 11/21/22 5:52 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
 You forget fast. :-)
 Here is what I wrote in August this year:
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 So basically, the TOPS-20 NRT server is not sending anything when you 
 connect, 
 
 Am I understanding you correctly?  Are you sure about that?  May I ask 
 you to send me an example where this happens?  Paul's recollection 
 agrees with my experience. 
 
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Trying to remember here, since it's now a few months since I looked at 
it. I think that I later concluded that the server might sent an init, 
but the client is not expecting/requiring it. Which would suggest that 
it might not be sent by all versions, so it's not reliable. I don't 
think it sends any INIT either. It just starts running, assuming it 
works on a stream of bytes with no further interpretation. But this is 
mostly me trying to recollect what I found out in August.
I do not know why specifically the TOPS NRT client under RSX works this 
way, but I would assume there is a reason. The RSTS/E, VMS and RSX 
clients do expect an INIT packet, and the majority of the code is shared 
by all the clients under RSX.
If you really want to, I can go digging in the code again, or we can try 
and find all the mails that were sent in the late summer. :-)
   Johnny
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