1 Oct
2023
1 Oct
'23
12:59 a.m.
Thing is - nothing else does SMTP over DECnet, so that feature is not
very useful.
But for the rest of it, sounds like T20 would be possible to use the
same way I use my mail daemon under RSX.
But notation is a bit easier with the RSX host involved. Sending a mail
from anywhere on HECnet to anywhere on the internet:
MIM::user@host.domain
Sending mail from anywhere on the Internet to a host on DEChet:
node::name@mim.stupi.net
But with all that said, unfortunately Google is broken, and you cannot
send mails from nodes on HECnet to any gmail account. Google refuses
mails where the from-address have '::' in the username. And mails will
have a from address of the form "node::user"@mim.stupi.net
Johnny
On 2023-09-30 19:55, Thomas DeBellis wrote:
Tops-20 will do both MAIL11 and SMTP over DECnet
(which I use every
day). It will also route email between the two mail transport types as
well as route SMTP from DECnet to Internet and the other transports it
can use. Columbia routed a lot of email this way.
It recognizes what to do based on the address specification. If you do
FOO(a)BAR.#DECnet, then it will use SMTP. If you do BAR::FOO, then it
will use MAIL11. It will also route Internet mail to DECnet; let's
suppose you have user FOO on VMS DECnet host BAR, which has connectivity
to Tops-20 Internet host BAZ, domain EDU. To send email to from an
Internet host, you'd specify "BAR::FOO"@BAZ.EDU.#Internet"., or
something along those lines (I forget). Same thing with BITnet and
(somehow) with Unix "!" (Bang) addresses.
The modules which do this are MAISER, MMAILR and HSTNAM. Locally, there
was a split at some point to modules name DMAISER (or some such) for the
DECnet related functionality, part of which was first done at Columbia.
Not all that code made it back into the PANDA sources and the monitor
needed some minor enhancements to provide some information that HSTNAM
wanted.
It's on my list of things to finish debugging, one problem being that
doing so tickled a limitation in the debugger (DDT) that I had to fix.
Typical rabbit hole.
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt(a)softjar.se || Reading murder books
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On 9/30/23 12:54 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
I should probably mention that it's possible to get mails both over
HECnet, using DECnet MAIL-11, and Internet, using SMTP. (I do like to
promote the silly software that I've written, including that mail
package for RSX that talks both, and acts as a gateway between them...)
Johnny
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> On 2023-09-30 17:59, Wilm Boerhout wrote:
>
> Thanks Johnny! Sign me up for the updates mail please. It really
> simplifies my update scripts.
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