6 Jun
2019
6 Jun
'19
10:12 p.m.
Let me rephrase my question.
When you send to a gmail address, what does the "from" address look
like, if you sent it from a machine that had to pass through another
DECnet mail relay before being delivered to gmail.
Last I tried, gmail do not accept a mail where the from-address looks
like node::name at foo.bar, not even if the node::name is within quotes.
Anyway, for the second part of your explanation - that sounds like it
would then not accept to arbitrary nodes on hecnet, but only your
specific machine?
MIM works as a general SMTP-MAIL11 gateway. Anyone on the outside can
send mail to node::name at mim.update.uu.se, and the mail will be
forwarded. And anyone on HECnet can send mail to mim::user at domain, and
it will get forwarded. Works for anyone on HECnet. However, as I said,
it does not work towards gmail, because of what gmail does.
Johnny
On 2019-06-06 21:20, Kurt Hamm wrote:
I misspoke when I said gmail.? It ultimately gets to a
gmail account,
but not directly.
I configured my postfix mail on my external server to trust the VAX IP
Address, so it doesn't ask for authentication.
Then configured Multinet as described here:
$MULTINET CONFIGURE/MAIL
MAIL-CONFIG>SET FORWARDER name-of-forwarder
MAIL-CONFIG>SET FORWARD-REMOTE-MAIL TRUE
MAIL-CONFIG>EXIT
$@MULTINET:START_SMTP
name-of-forwarder=external mail server IP address.
That takes care of outbound mail.
For inbound mail, I created a mail routing rule to route all email from
a specific domain to the VAX SMTP port.? The VAX looks for a valid user
and delivers the mail.? It discards anything else.
Kurt
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 3:14 PM Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
Hum. You get it working with gmail??? That is surprising. I noticed
several years ago that gmail do not accept mails with a from address in
the form "foo::bar"@mim.update.uu.se <http://mim.update.uu.se>, even
though it actually should
accept it.
How does multinet rewrite the from address then?
? ?Johnny
On 2019-06-06 21:04, Kurt Hamm wrote:
--
Johnny Billquist? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? || "I'm on a bus
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?||? on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>? ? ? ? ? ? ?||
Reading murder books
pdp is alive!? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?||? tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
I got it working.? I setup Multinet to route all
outbound
external mail
to one of my external mail domains.? Then I setup
mail routing
for any
email to that domain to be forwarded to the Vax
for delivery.
It works great.? I can email from the VAX to a GMAIL account and
then
reply back.
Kurt
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 2:53 PM Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at
softjar.se>>> wrote:
? ? ?On 2019-06-06 15:04, Kurt Hamm wrote:
? ? ? > I wasn't sure where to post this question, so I thought I
would
? ? ?start here.
? ? ? >
? ? ? > I have two simh vax3900 machines.? Larry and Moe.? Larry
is the
? ? ?HECNet
? ? ? > router for Moe.
? ? ? >
? ? ? > When I send email from Larry (via SMTP), the _return _email
? ? ?address is
? ? ? > correct (SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM
<mailto:SYSTEM at
LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM>
? ? ?<mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM
<mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM>>
<mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM>
? ? ?<mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM
<mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM>>>.
? ? ? >
? ? ? > When I send email from Moe (to
LARRY::SMTP%"user at domain.com
<mailto:user at domain.com>
? ? ?<mailto:user at domain.com <mailto:user
at domain.com>>
? ? ? > <mailto:user at domain.com <mailto:user at domain.com>
<mailto:user at domain.com <mailto:user at domain.com>>>"), the
return
? ? ?email address is:
? ? ? > SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
<mailto:SYSTEM at
SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>
? ? ?<mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
<mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>>
? ? ?<mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
<mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>
? ? ?<mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
<mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>>>.
? ? ? >
? ? ? > Why is Moe using the SCSSYSTEMID instead of the system name?
? ? ? >
? ? ? > *I am missing something.*
? ? ?I'm not sure how you should do a setup of mail relaying in VMS.
? ? ?However, you can always send from Moe to MIM::user at domain.com
<mailto:MIM%3A%3Auser at domain.com>
? ? ?<mailto:MIM%3A%3Auser at domain.com
<mailto:MIM%253A%253Auser at domain.com>>. Those
? ? ?mails should then get correct addresses.
? ? ? ? ?Johnny
? ? ?--
? ? ?Johnny Billquist? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? || "I'm on a bus
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?||? on a psychedelic trip
? ? ?email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>
<mailto:bqt
at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>>? ? ? ? ? ? ?||
? ? ?Reading murder books
? ? ?pdp is alive!? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?||? tryin' to stay hip" -
B.
Idol