I admit that my Tops-10 knowledge is limited. But I very clearly
remember MRC unofficially getting Phase IV running under TOPS-20 on a
KS. This was work that was somehow supported/requested by DEC if I
remember things. But it never became an official release.
MRC's comments were basically that he barely managed to get it running,
with some limitations, and not much resources left for much else.
With Tops-10, like I said, I only ever used them with ANF-10 networks.
And yeah, I know that KS never officially supported ethernet. In theory
the Unibus ethernet controllers should be possible to use, but I know
that Jonny Eriksson (bygg) was working on that, and had things half
working. I think I might even have seen the code, but it never was finished.
Johnny
On 2022-09-06 21:41, Robert Armstrong wrote:
Johnny
Billquist <bqt(a)softjar.se <mailto:bqt@softjar.se>> wrote:
The -2020 will be tricky to get up on HECnet, though. As far as I
remember/know, it only officially had Phase III.
And you need to run
TOPS-20 V4.
Not sure if Tops-10 ever had DECnet on them, but
if it did, I would
suspect it's the same story there. The -2020s
I ever used just ran
Tops-10 with ANF-10.
Oh, come on - be serious... TOPS-10 had DECnet Phase-IV, both on the
KL and the KS (2020) machines. There are even some such machines on
HECnet today!!
$ set host venti
SIMH KS10 VENTI 7.04 NET 12:36:12 TTY10 system 4999
Connected to Node LEGATO Line # 0
AUTHORIZED USERS ONLY!
Please LOGIN
.net
[ANF10 network: connected to VENTI(20), located at VENTI(20), 3 nodes]
Node VENTI (20) SIMH KS10 VENTI 7.04 NET 18-Nov-21
Node TWONKY (37) TWONKY KS10 TOPS10 7.04 28-Nov-21
Node TWONK2 (40) TWONK2 KS10 TOPS10 7.04 28-Nov-21
[DECnet network: local node VENTI, 17 reachable nodes in area 2]
(2.99) (2.152) (2.153) (2.170) (2.199) A2RTR BOINGO GLDRTR HUSKY
LEGATO
MASTIF REACH THEARK TOMMYT VENTI VENTI2 ZITI
.KJOB
.ini
SIMH KS10 VENTI 7.04 NET 12:36:21 TTY10 system 4999
Connected to Node LEGATO Line # 0
AUTHORIZED USERS ONLY!
Please LOGIN
.log 13,730
Job 14 SIMH KS10 VENTI 7.04 NET TTY0
Password:
[LGNLAS Last access to [13,730] succeeded on 6-Sep-122:07:27:46]
12:38 6-Sep-122 Tuesday
.set host mim
[Connected to RSX-11M+ system MIM::, using CTERM protocol]
[Type ^\,<RET> to return]
?NRTRMT Required message types not all supported
.
It even understands how to talk to other areas, although MIM doesn’t
seem very friendly.
The 2020 machines never had Ethernet, at least not in any official
capacity. Perhaps that’s what you are confused about? A 2020 only
supported synchronous links and could only be an end node.
Bob
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