[HECnet] Intermittent Connection with PyDECnet?

Nope, I forgot.? So now I just did and got the following interesting selections: ??? NCP>set exeCUTOR nODE VENTI2:: ? one of the following: ???? ?ACCOUNT??? PASSWORD??? USER ???? ? or confirm with carriage return So I guess that's how Tops-20 parses for it.? So I suppose--assuming NMLT20 is actually going to swallow this particular parse tree--that Tops-20 is like RSX and authenticates on a node and not a circuit basis.

When I talk about what was written in BLISS and what wasn't, I am talking about a /seriously/ long time ago.? The first thing that DEC did when I started in 1979 was stick me in a BLISS class and the mantra was BLISS everywhere.?? That was over 40 years ago...? I can't even remember what I had for breakfast yesterday. Some of the Tops-20 monitor code for DECnet started out and was debugged under Tops-10.? However, this is Macro-10.

On 3/2/20 8:07 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > Did you see any SET EXEC TRANSMIT PASSWORD maybe? > > Anyway, the NCP parsing in RSX is all written in MACRO-11, so it was > never shared with anything written in BLISS. > > ? Johnny > > On 2020-03-03 00:55, Thomas DeBellis wrote: >> I appear to have neither CIRCUIT VERIFICATION nor NODE TRANSMIT >> PASSWORD, viz: >> >> ??? NCP>set cirCUIT ni-0 ? ALL >> ???? ? or one of the following: >> ???? ?ACTIVE??? ???? BABBLE??? ? BLOCKING???? CHANNEL??? ?? COST >> ???? ?COUNTER????? DEAD >> ???? ?DTE??? ??? ? ? DYING??? ?? HELLO??? ??? INACTIVE??? ? LINE >> ???? ?LISTEN??? ?? MAXIMUM >> ???? ?NUMBER??? ???? OWNER??? ?? POLLING????? RECALL ROUTER >> SERVICE????? STATE >> ???? ?TRANSMIT?????? TRIBUTARY?? TYPE??? ???? USAGE >> >> ??? NCP>set noDE venti2:: ? ALL >> ???? ? or one of the following: >> ???? ?ADDRESS?? CIRCUIT >> ???? ? or one of the following: >> ???? ?AREA??? ??? ? BROADCAST??? ??? BUFFER??? ????? CONSOLE COUNTER >> ???? ?CPU??? ??? ?? DELAY??? ??? ??? DIAGNOSTIC??? ? DUMP HARDWARE >> ???? ?HOST??? ??? ? IDENTIFICATION?? INACTIVITY??? ? INCOMING LOAD >> ???? ?MAXIMUM??? ?? OUTGOING??? ???? RETRANSMIT??? ? ROUTING SECONDARY >> ???? ?SEGMENT??? ?? SERVICE ?? SOFTWARE??????? STATE SUBADDRESSES >> ???? ?TERTIARY????? TYPE >> >> I may be mis-remembering how our DN200 was configured.? I believe >> the Top-20 NCP parser may have shared keyword tables with other >> DECnet implementations via BLISS at one point. Anyway, I recall at >> least some of it was BLISS.? I haven't look in that particular box >> lately, but the parse tables appear to assembler now, with heavy >> uses of GLXMAC macros. >> >> The Tops-20 operator interface has two 'sub-modes', as it were: NCP >> and LCP.? NCP parses DECnet related keywords.? LCP is used for LAT >> configuration.? The operator subsystem is kind of neat; OPR parsers >> send packets to Orion, a communications server and router.? It notes >> an NCP subset and routes that to NMLT20 which contains just what you >> think it would. >> >> Early versions of NMLT20 (about 1980) appeared insufficiently >> productized.? It could hang in a loop or (more frequently) crash for >> no readily apparent reason. We submitted a rather large number of >> SPR's...? However, it's quite stable now; I don't believe I've had a >> single crash.? I have yet to come to a fully informed conclusion >> about the lexical interface; I sometimes get the impression that it >> parses for more than it can actually do. >> >> Elsewhere in Tops-20, DECnet implementation is a mixed bag; most of >> the monitor code appears finished; I go months without reboots and >> that is with active development.? The user mode code is another >> matter entirely.? I had my hands full fixing a number of issues with >> DAP and FAL. It was /invaluable/ having heterogeneous HECnet nodes >> to test against, RSX 11M+ and VMS. SETNOD needs some finishing and >> perhaps some additional functionality.? I have yet to look at FTS; I >> don't see how it can get or generate any traffic at all. The monitor >> interface (NFT:) does not appear to be operational. Elsewhere >> (perhaps Galaxy) appears to have no submission interface.? Johnny >> and I have some minor tweaks to flush out with MAIL11 (in addition >> to the changes that I've already put in). >> >> >> On 3/2/20 3:25 PM, Robert Armstrong wrote: >>> >>> >I don't see where I would set an id and password in 7-1-CONFIG or >>> in NCP. >>> >>> Don?t know about TOPS-20, but in NCP/NICE/NML it?s >>> >>> SET CIRCUIT ? VERIFICATION ENABLED >>> >>> and >>> >>> SET NODE ? TRANSMIT PASSWORD ? >>> >>> The password the remote node sends has to match the one that?s >>> associated with that node in the local DECnet database. >>> >>> Bob >>> > >