7 Apr
2022
7 Apr
'22
11:29 p.m.
While I agree with you about the clowns remark, the case sensitivity of
the local part of a mail address is in fact also in RFC 821:
Page 3, section 2.
"Commands and replies are not case sensitive. That is, a command or
reply word may be upper case, lower case, or any mixture of upper and
lower case. Note that this is not true of mailbox user names. For
some hosts the user name is case sensitive, and SMTP implementations
must take case to preserve the case of user names as they appear in
mailbox arguments. Host names are not case sensitive."
Johnny
On 2022-04-07 18:04, Peter Lothberg wrote:
...In my view anything that is not 822/821 compatible
has a risk of failing,
the clowns who updated the RFC did not think about "installed base"..
(We have other examples, like someone redefined the use of type-8's in OSPF
instead of adding a new type code.. Sigh...)
-P
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From: "bqt" <bqt(a)softjar.se>
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Subject: [HECnet] Re: try #4: area 23 will be offline for awhile
I should actually have quoted a bit more.
"The
local-part of a mailbox MUST BE treated as case sensitive.
Therefore, SMTP implementations MUST take care to preserve the case
of mailbox local-parts. In particular, for some hosts, the user
"smith" is different from the user "Smith". However, exploiting
the
case sensitivity of mailbox local-parts impedes interoperability and
is discouraged. Mailbox domains follow normal DNS rules and are
hence not case sensitive."
Johnny
On 2022-04-07 17:54, Johnny Billquist wrote:
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insensitive, but mailbox names
might not be.
This is very clearly stated in RFC 5321. Page 16, section 2.4 "General
Syntax Principles and Transaction Model".
In there it says:
"Verbs and argument values (e.g., "TO:" or "to:" in the RCPT
command
and extension name keywords) are not case sensitive, with the sole
exception in this specification of a mailbox local-part (SMTP
Extensions may explicitly specify case-sensitive elements)."
And don't get me started on gmail, which breaks the RFC in multiple ways
when dealing with the local part of a mail address for the sending part
(which it shouldn't try to understand at all).
Johnny
On 2022-04-07 17:45, Peter Lothberg wrote:
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Welcome back whenever..
The mail RFC's clearly states that mail-address (and domain names) are
NOT
case sensitive, so if someone is matching case, they are out of spec.
-P
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark G Thomas" <mark(a)misty.com>
> To: "The Hobbyist DECnet mailing list" <hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se>
> Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 11:31:33 AM
> Subject: [HECnet] try #4: area 23 will be offline for awhile
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying again, as I suspect maybe the mailing list has been rejecting
> my prior attempts due to some case sensitivity in matching submitting
> e-mail senders with subscriber addresses. If this message makes it,
> maybe
> someone can investigate, as I expect it might cause grief for others
> too.
>
> Due to a combination of things, I'm going to need to take down my
> area 23 hecnet router, probably for a 3-6 months.
>
> Near term, I'm short on hobby time, need to do some significant network
> reconfiguration, and need to put back together one or several decnet
> worthy systems, after some rather frustrating hardware failures.
>
> Ideally, I should have more time late summer or fall, once my kid is in
> school and some other pressures let up.
>
> I'm not going anywhere, and appreciate the groupmembers here who have
> been so helpful over the years about so many DEC and non-DEC things.
>
> My current peers are as follows, though some of them are currently down.
>
> interface Tunnel50
> description HECnet tunnel for Brian Hechinger (Area 52) [Version:311]
> interface Tunnel51
> description HECnet tunnel for Ian McLaughlin (Area 42) [Version:311]
> interface Tunnel52
> description HECnet tunnel for Cory Smelosky (Area 9) [Version:311]
> interface Tunnel53
> description HECnet tunnel for Dave McGuire (Area 61) [Version:311]
> interface Tunnel54
> description HECnet tunnel for Supratim Sanyal (Area 31) [Version:311]
> interface Tunnel57
> description HECnet tunnel for Tim Sneddon (Area 12) [Version:311]
> interface Tunnel58
> description HECnet tunnel for Mark Darvill (Area 22) [Version:311]
> interface Tunnel1098
> description tunnel to Peter Lothberg <roll(a)Stupi.SE> (STORTR 59.61)
> interface Tunnel1099
> description tunnel to Peter Lothberg <roll(a)Stupi.SE> (IAD2 59.1020)
>
> Mark
>
>
> --
> Mark G. Thomas <Mark(a)Misty.com>om>, KC3DRE
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