6 Jun
2019
6 Jun
'19
10:19 p.m.
The format that I found in the Multinet Docs suggested this (for my setup):
larry::SMTP%"kurt at hamm.me"
This routes the email through Larry which is configured for SMTP mail.
Larry takes the mail and sends it out. When I get the email on the
outside, the from address is: kurt at moe.frugalcomputing.com. my user on Moe
is kurt, the domain name I am using for this is frugalcomputing.com.
When I reply to this email from the outside, Multinet on Larry translates
the email address to send to kurt on decnet node Moe.
Works like a champ. The only sticking point is that you basically have to
have an open internet mail relay for the VAX to talk to. I reduced some of
that risk by only allowing a small subnet on the internet to talk to that
open relay.
Kurt
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 4:11 PM Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Let me rephrase my question.
When you send to a gmail address, what does the "from" address look
like, if you sent it from a machine that had to pass through another
DECnet mail relay before being delivered to gmail.
Last I tried, gmail do not accept a mail where the from-address looks
like node::name at foo.bar, not even if the node::name is within quotes.
Anyway, for the second part of your explanation - that sounds like it
would then not accept to arbitrary nodes on hecnet, but only your
specific machine?
MIM works as a general SMTP-MAIL11 gateway. Anyone on the outside can
send mail to node::name at mim.update.uu.se, and the mail will be
forwarded. And anyone on HECnet can send mail to mim::user at domain, and
it will get forwarded. Works for anyone on HECnet. However, as I said,
it does not work towards gmail, because of what gmail does.
Johnny
On 2019-06-06 21:20, Kurt Hamm wrote:
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> ||
Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
I misspoke when I said gmail. It ultimately gets
to a gmail account,
but not directly.
I configured my postfix mail on my external server to trust the VAX IP
Address, so it doesn't ask for authentication.
Then configured Multinet as described here:
$MULTINET CONFIGURE/MAIL
MAIL-CONFIG>SET FORWARDER name-of-forwarder
MAIL-CONFIG>SET FORWARD-REMOTE-MAIL TRUE
MAIL-CONFIG>EXIT
$@MULTINET:START_SMTP
name-of-forwarder=external mail server IP address.
That takes care of outbound mail.
For inbound mail, I created a mail routing rule to route all email from
a specific domain to the VAX SMTP port. The VAX looks for a valid user
and delivers the mail. It discards anything else.
Kurt
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 3:14 PM Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
Hum. You get it working with gmail??? That is surprising. I noticed
several years ago that gmail do not accept mails with a from address
in
the form
"foo::bar"@mim.update.uu.se <http://mim.update.uu.se>, even
though it actually should
accept it.
How does multinet rewrite the from address then?
Johnny
On 2019-06-06 21:04, Kurt Hamm wrote:
name?
I got it working. I setup Multinet to route all
outbound
external mail
to one of my external mail domains. Then I setup
mail routing
for any
email to that domain to be forwarded to the Vax
for delivery.
It works great. I can email from the VAX to a GMAIL account and
then
reply back.
Kurt
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 2:53 PM Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at
softjar.se>>> wrote:
On 2019-06-06 15:04, Kurt Hamm wrote:
> I wasn't sure where to post this question, so I thought I
would
start here.
>
> I have two simh vax3900 machines. Larry and Moe. Larry
is the
HECNet
<mailto:SYSTEM at
LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM>
router for Moe.
When I send email from Larry (via SMTP), the _return _email
address is
> correct (SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM
<mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM>>
<mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM>
<mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM
<mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM>>>.
>
> When I send email from Moe (to
LARRY::SMTP%"user at domain.com
<mailto:user at domain.com>
<mailto:user at domain.com <mailto:user
at domain.com>>
> <mailto:user at domain.com <mailto:user at domain.com>
<mailto:user at domain.com <mailto:user at domain.com>>>"), the
return
email address is:
> SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
<mailto:SYSTEM at
SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>
<mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
<mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>>
<mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
<mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>
<mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
<mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>>>.
> >
> > Why is Moe using the SCSSYSTEMID instead of the system > >
> > *I am missing something.*
>
> I'm not sure how you should do a setup of mail relaying in
VMS.
However, you can always send from Moe to MIM::user at domain.com
<mailto:MIM%3A%3Auser at domain.com>
<mailto:MIM%3A%3Auser at domain.com
<mailto:MIM%253A%253Auser at domain.com>>. Those
mails should then get correct addresses.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>
<mailto:bqt
at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> ||
Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" -
B.
Idol