8 Nov
2021
8 Nov
'21
11:01 p.m.
That looks good. ?Segment Buffer Size? was one of the additions for NML2. FAL2 provides a
traditional Unix stream I/O interface rather than trying to emulate RMS which what the
original FAL did.
John.
On Nov 8, 2021, at 4:27 PM, Keith Halewood
<Keith.Halewood at pitbulluk.org> wrote:
Thanks John. I compiled/installed fal2 as well. I'm see, from nml:
Node Volatile Characteristics as of 8-NOV-2021 21:25:21
Executor node = 29.115 (PI3B3)
Identification = DECnet for Linux V5.10.77-v7+ on armv7l
Management version = V4.0.0
NSP version = V4.0.0
Routing version = V2.0.0
Type = nonrouting IV
Maximum circuits = 1
Segment buffer size = 576
Keith
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Thanks. Can you try using NML2 - README.Raspbian has instructions. That?s a newer version
I wrote last year which includes support for some of the newer features I added.
John.
On Nov 8, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Keith Halewood
<Keith.Halewood at pitbulluk.org> wrote:
It's apparently 5.10.77-v7+.
It eventually goes a bit wrong responding to NICE requests with VMS complaining
'invalid management response' but the output showing a '...such file or
directory' but I'll try some troubleshooting tomorrow.
I installed 'latd' (apt install latd), started up with latcp -s and it's
picked up all the LAT services on the LAN, including itself, the RX4640, the KLH10
instance of Panda TOPS-20... looks fine too. Identifies its connections as the hostname
and tty, such as "PI3B3//dev/ttyAMA0"
Keith
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Behalf Of John Forecast
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] Is this the most up to date version of DECnet OS numbers?
Glad it?s working for you. Is this running the latest Raspbian release? What kernel
version is it running?
John.
On Nov 8, 2021, at 12:21 PM, Keith Halewood
<Keith.Halewood at pitbulluk.org> wrote:
Well, that was an interesting compilation of the raspbian kernel.
I cloned https://github.com/JohnForecast/RaspbianDECnet and got busy. I had to remove the
--help-- stanzas from the Kconfig file. They were tripping something up.
I had to move the MAC address change to the bridge (I use
/etc/network/interfaces with bridges and taps etc..)
DECnet is all working on a 32bit raspbian on a pi3b+, HECnet node
name
29.115 - I'll christen it at some point :) Thank you John Forecast for doing all the
hard work.
Keith
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Sent: 07 November 2021 20:37
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] Is this the most up to date version of DECnet OS numbers?
On 2021-11-07 18:06, Robert Armstrong wrote:
> I think DECnet/8 is for RTS-8, but there
never was one for OS-8.
Yes, the DECnet-8 was for RTS although you could run OS/8 as a task
under RTS (so maybe those two count as the same). In any case AFAIK
there was never any NFT or FAL or remote terminal or NCP/NML or
anything else like that implemented for DECnet/8. It was more of a
toolkit kind of thing where you could write your own RTS program to
make a DECnet connection to another node. What you sent over that connection was your
problem.
Right. It was/is slightly more than a toolkit. It does have a couple of processes which
deals with circuits and executor management. And I think there is TLK/LSN so you can
communicate. But beyond that, you were on your own.
And no, OS/8 under RTS-8 don't allow them to be counted as one. :-)
Never heard of DECnet for CP/M although there
certainly was one for MSDOS.
Linux is interesting, although I doubt that was put there by DEC.
Probably somebody added it later.
Linux was definitely defined post-DEC. I simply just talked with a Linux FAL from RSX and
checked what value it put in the OS field, and added that to my list from there.
And what the heck is COPOS/11?? I see that is
says TOPS-20 front
end, but I thought TOPS20 used the same RSX20F as TOPS10.
I don't think it's the same as the RSX20F frontend. I have no idea what it is,
but it's in the source files for the RSX DECnet code. Sounds like some oddball thing
that existed somewhere. CSS thing maybe?
And DTF/MVS? Is that the IBM OS MVS?
I almost suspect it might be, but again, no real clue. All I can say is that this is what
is in the RSX sources.
Johnny
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