Incidentally, how do you measure idle time for an interactive process in VMS? I used to
know how to do this and I have a vague memory of writing some code to run as a process to
keep track of this.
Keith
-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Billquist [mailto:bqt@softjar.se]
Sent: 07 June 2024 16:46
To: Mark Matlock <mark(a)matlockfamily.com>om>; hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se
Subject: [HECnet] Re: FINGER survey...
FINGER already exists as an RPM. Just did a little tweak on the RPM right now, so you can
configure if you do or don't want it to answer over DECnet or IP.
(RPM CONFIG FINGER - configuration questions are also asked on initial
install)
Johnny
On 2024-06-07 17:18, Mark Matlock wrote:
Johnny,
I’d be very interested in your RSX version of FINGER. Will you be adding it to your
RPM repository or in the TCP/IP distribution. I use your RWHO quite a bit for local things
but to see if someone is thereon a remote machine who be quite helpful. Currently I use
PHONE DIR for such things but it is pretty limited.
Thanks for all the great additions to RSX!
Mark
On Jun 7, 2024, at 9:31 AM, Johnny Billquist
<bqt(a)softjar.se> wrote:
I've been busy with my silly things as usual, and lately implemented aFINGER client
and server for RSX, and I realized there are a couple of things to maybe check with other
people on HECnet.
First of all - finger as such is a (sortof) well known tool/service onthe TCP/IP
internet. And I've had a finger server and client for TCP/IP under RSX for a long
time, but have never really shared it, since it was a bit "odd".
But even before this, I knew of a FINGER implementation available fromDECUS for RSX.
I've known that I wanted to make FINGER available for others for a long time, but
recently I started thinking of also adding in DECnet capability in my finger
implementation. So the last few weeks I've been tinkeringwith this, and I've
finally completed the work and made my new finger implementation available as a package.
The FINGER from DECUS mentions the following:
FINGER is a utility to display information about a
selected user or group of users. It can be invoked for users
on the local node or on a remote node over DECnet, and is com-
patible with the VMS implimentation of FINGER. Full function-
ality requires an RSX-11M+ system with resource accounting and
DECnet.
So, not only have there been this RSX implementation from DECUS, thereapparently also
exist(ed) an implementation from somewhere for VMS.
FINGER over TCP uses the well known TCP port 79, while the DECUS RSX (and I assume VMS)
DECnet implementation uses object number 117.
My implementation then responds to both these access paths, as well asbeing able to query
locally, and also try to connect to remote systems using either of these methods.
And I now have this running on MIM::
So my questions are:
. Do anyone else have any finger service running on any HECnet node?
. Do anyone else know what other implementations even exist, and for which OSes?
I do think FINGER is somewhat useful to find who might be logged in and active, as well
as finding out more information about people on different systems in general. On the
internet, finger servers are nowadays unusual to see, since privacy and security concerned
people just feel that finger gives out way too much information anonymously.
So I am not encouraging people to run this if they have such concerns.But like I said,
personally, I do find it useful, and will keep it available on any RSX system that I am
running.
Johnny
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