14 Nov
2019
14 Nov
'19
3:19 a.m.
Hello!
Take the publishing trades. My father ran several typesetting houses,
he even did the day to day management for his father my grandfather
and they owned a hotmetal shop. That means Linotype. And eventually
moved towards photo and with them went computers. The programs ran on
both a Nova 2 and then a Nova 3, finally an Eclipse. Eventually the
trade went desktop which was on a Mac using Quark. Now look where we
are.
I have a book on programming in the MS-DOS (!!) world, it was also
done desktop. But the program was the same from the Novas and the
Eclipse, rewritten for the PC. Sadly it never took off.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 8:08 PM Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 11/13/19 7:13 PM, Dave Wade wrote:
You move in technical circles and perhaps in the
US things are different....
But at risk of falling out with you again can I say that in the UK almost every local
government user desktop is windows.
I don't think I have ever encountered a Linux desktop in the UK in local government.
The odd Apple machine where Desktop publishing was needed, but no Linux.
Almost every desktop PC in the UK health Service (the NHS) runs MS Windows. I must admit
I have only worked in three schools (and been a governor in one) but again all Windows
desktops.
There is some Linux on things like Raspberry PIs for Python but not for admin/teaching
Well I did mention "selection bias". ;) Government is about as far
from "high tech" as one can get. I work in the tech industry as a
contract electronic designer. Everything in this business is Linux,
with a few poor sods stuck with Windows because their *nontechnical*
manager told them what tools to use to do their jobs, and they didn't
quit on the spot as they should have.
Solaris and HP-UX used to have a big footprint in this business, but
it's almost all gone at this point.
There is a lot more Linux in the back office. So
in Stockport Council we had around 250 windows server images (and again most councils are
similar) but ran a Linux farm for running MOODLE and a couple of Linux servers for Oracle
for some of the social care apps. I see even Munich has returned to Windows (although
that?s old)
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/end-of-an-open-source-era-linux-pionee…
I find this state of affairs very sad. Monocultures like this lead to vulnerable systems.
A diversity would be much better. It would be really nice to have some desktop Solaris but
SUN seem to have just about killed that.
I agree 100%. Oracle killed it the rest of the way, but Sun really
just paid lip service to desktop environments for several years before
that. Sigh.
Looking at the Google Analytics for Trafford
& Hulme Campaign for Real Ale site (which is Joomla on Linux on Plesk) for October I
roughly get
(thcamra.org.uk)
43% Windows,
23% Android
20% IOS
6% Macintosh
6% Didn't tell us
2% Linux
Plus one session from some poor soul with Windows Phone. So whilst Windows is the
biggest, if you combine the Android and IOS to get total mobile/tablet use it?s a little
higher
I know that I am of course only surveying beer drinkers which may be warped in other ways
and it?s a small sample, but from what I recall the figures for the CAMRA pubs database
site
( www.whatpub.com) are in similar proportions, and they gets a lot more hits.
Well as Android is Linux under the hood, and iOS and MacOS are UNIX
under the hood, that makes those numbers look a bit different.
But either way, it boils down to people who understand technology the
best typically don't run Windows. If I'm at the grocery store shopping
for vitamins, and I see a doctor avoiding a certain brand of vitamins, I
follow his lead. But the world of management and other nontechnical
types isn't quite so logical.
We should probably talk about DECnet before we get smacked by Johnny
for liking each other enough to be sociable. ;) */me pokes Johnny*
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA