On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt
at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2015-04-28 02:15, Mark Matlock wrote:
Johnny,
I don't recall if the layered product patches were there or not. I am on the road
and I was able to verify the F77 compiler version:
F77 /ID
F77 -- PDP-11 FORTRAN-77 V5.4-26
Does the -26 indicate a patch level?
Think so, and that matches what I have, so I think that is good.
Thanks for the info on non-routed DECnet and
HECnet. I may have had some other issue going on and need to work on getting connected
again.
You should... ;-)
Yes, I should. When I get back home, I am going to spend some
time to work on getting connected.
BP2 with I/D space would be worth some effort
to bring back from extinction. With the high speed of Simh and E11 with modern CPUs, if
one could figure out a way to reassemble the tape blocks in the various combinations the
see if BRU could read it successfully or not in some automated way, then just let the CPU
have at it. It can't be worse than breaking the Enigma code in World War II.
A few thousand blocks. The number of permutations can be interesting... Also, it is not
totally trivial to see if you got it all right...
The process to see if you got the right combination of blocks is the key to whether an
automated process could be used. I guess you would have BRU try to read a virtual tape and
produce a listing, but the listing could be correct, but still have some blocks out of
order in some small file stored on the tape.
Also, I meant to say that the PDP-11 C V1.2
is corrupt but the V1.1 is okay as I recall. Also, DECUS C works quite well, but I
don't recall which DECUS tape it is on.
I did some changes/improvements to DECUS C many years ago. I believe my changed version
should be available with ftp from Update.
I will need to look for your updated DECUS C on the Update ftp. Part of the challenge from
the DECUS tapes is determining if you have the latest version of a particular software.
Thanks for bringing your version of C to my attention.
I should probably make a kit disk or something available from MIM/Madame as well. If I
only had time...
Too bad noone is willing to pay for me doing this kind of work. I could spend full time
just fixing things for years... :-)
That is too bad. There are a number of things in RSX that I'm sure you could
improve. I really do appreciate what you've done on TCP/IP. Thanks!
Mark
Johnny
Mark
>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>>
>> On 2015-04-28 00:48, Mark Matlock wrote:
>> Dave,
>> If you are using the RSX11M+ V4.6 distribution tape, there is a copy of F77
(V5.4 I think) on it already. Look in [246,246]. Also, that tape has DECnet on it as well
that works fine with Johnny's TCP/IP software.
>
> Cool. Did the person setting that up also include the layered product patches that
are included with RSX?
>
>> Unfortunately, the DECnet on that tape is for non routing nodes, so that
complicates direct connection to HECnet. I have not found a RSX11M+ V4.6 routing DECNet
distribution.
>
> It don't really complicate any connection to HECnet. You do not need a routing
node for that, and unless you have some very specific needs, routing nodes just means it
requires way more CPU and memory usage.
>
>> You are right on BP2 V2.7 being corrupted. The V2.5 is good though. On the
PDP-11 the latest one is corrupt but the earliest one is ok.
>
> V2.7 have some improvements that would be really nice to have, such as split I/D
space capability...
>
> I have been trying to repair the tape on trailing edge, but there is a big library
file in there which is just way complicated to figure out...
>
> Johnny
>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> On 04/27/2015 06:04 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>>>> Uh-oh...That "HDR1" business looks like part of an ANSI
tape label,
>>>>> not a filename. What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Definitely a corrupted tape.
>>>
>>> Yup...After testing several other images from the trailing-edge
>>> archive, I'm finding the same sort of mess. I knew the BP2 v2.7 image
>>> was trashed, but it looks like quite a few others are as well. The
>>> f77_v5_4.tpc one is corrupt too.
>>>
>>> What a mess.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help in diagnosing this.
>>>
>>> At least some earlier releases are intact, but do you know if any of
>>> those newer ones have been archived intact anywhere? Do you have them?
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>>> New Kensington, PA
>
>
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> || on a psychedelic trip
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