[HECnet] VMS/RSX Guest accounts

Yes, that's what I've been doing, but I need a little local storage for data capture, control files and some other odd and ends, so I was hoping to get my own personal account.? However, when I went to send you some Mail-11 about it, the 20's mail agent crashed, so I guess that's one request you never got.

I can't really remember what else spoke SMTP over DECnet.? I know Ultrix could have done it, but it has that losing bind interface, so you'd have to change some code in sendmail to make it work. The Tops-20 mailer uses the unified JFN interface, so all you have to do is open the connection and away you go, more or less.

Be aware of the following: my testing is extremely unlikely to crash anything.? Unless it does.? It could also leave some crud around from broken connections.? So, you might have some scrubbing to do; that's not a problem is it?

Once I fix the MMAILR crash, I'll contact you about Mail-11.? I'm fine being a purist about the matter.

On 4/22/20 11:12 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2020-04-23 04:49, Thomas DeBellis wrote: >> I've had my fill of FAL and DAP for the moment and have turned to >> some other things as sort of a 'break'.? The Tops-10 NFT client >> breaks on certain file names that the 20 sends it, so there is going >> to be some debugging to track that down.? Fortunately, a very patient >> person gave me PPN on one of their 10's. >> >> Right now, I'm working on bringing the Tops-20 mail system a bit more >> up to date with respect to DECnet communications.? These were largely >> put aside when full Internet connectivity happened. Still, the PANDA >> distribution has some bit rot because I know that certain Columbia >> changes for DECnet (to support CCnet) are not there.? I can't imagine >> that we didn't send them to MRC; that would have been unthinkable. >> >> Fortunately, I was able to remember enough to put some of them back >> so that I got SMTP over DECnet working well, again.? It had been >> suffering from about two minute timing delays and now it's >> instantaneous between 20's, like I remember.?? Oddly enough, I don't >> remember what else ran SMTP over DECnet; I'm certain that RSX and VMS >> could have done it.? I think some VMS site might have. >> >> However, most non-SMTP DECnet hosts on CCnet were running Mail-11, >> which the 20 also groks.? In fact, it can convert Mail-11 addresses >> to SMTP and route over other transports such as PUP, Chaos and TCP/IP >> as well as DECnet.? We did a lot of mail routing for CCnet to the >> Internet on CU20B, back in the day. >> >> Unfortunately, there is some bit rot in some of the Tops-20 Mail-11 >> code, so I've got some tinkering to do.? Does anyone have a VMS or >> RSX system that they'd care to give me a guest account on?? It >> doesn't need any special capabilities; I'm just going to be sending >> mail and looking a few raw headers over. > > Just log in to Mim.Update.UU.SE (MIM::). There is a guest account, > with password guest. That should do it, I think. > > With that said, RSX definitely do not speak SMTP over DECnet. And we > should also actually go into some detail about how to speak MAIL-11. > Even VMS cheats... > > ? Johnny >