On 1/22/21 12:36 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Not really trying to claim there is anything
particular about DEC
equipment here. While they were built properly, I don't think there
necessarily is anything exceptional about them.
I can tell you from experience that there definitely is. I've worked
on computer equipment a very wide variety of manufacturers. By far the
highest-quality by most measures has been IBM, with DEC and HP following
close behind. Nothing else even comes close. Note that I'm only
talking about minis and mainframes here.
But no, I do not believe any components have been
replaced.
That would be very unusual. Field service guys carry boards for a
reason. When I was running VAXen commercially, we had several boards
fail in our production machines, and they were replaced by DEC field
service personnel. The machines were VAX-11/750s, MicroVAX-IIs, and
MicroVAX-3s.
One of the
biggest issue is when equipment are left turned off for longer times.
That usually seems to be the time when problems appear.
When that happens, the problem usually turns out to be dried-out
electrolytic capacitors in power supplies, and occasional popcorning of
small dry tantalum capacitors.
By the way, we're talking 11/23 machines here. So
BA23 box. Not that
much loaded in them, so no big strain on the power supply.
Load, or lack thereof, makes no difference with the most common
failure mode of the BA23 power supply. The safety capacitors across the
line always see the same line voltage. Their flaws are aggravated by
humidity in the air, not load.
In fact, running the power supply under heavier load actually
improves the safety capacitor situation due to "bake-out" effects on
those capacitors. Of course such elevated temperatures then shorten the
life of the other capacitors, so..
FYI, the safety capacitors in the BA23 power supply are:
Refdes App C Class Lead Spacing
--------------------------------------------------
C101 line-line 0.47uF X 25mm
C102 line-ground 0.22uF Y 20mm
C201 line-line 0.1uF X2 20mm
My experience with 11/70 machines are the same. If
they are kept
running, they usually just continue to work. If you have them off for a
couple of years, you'll have a lot of work before they are stable again.
Yup, and this is something we deal with all the time at the museum.
We obviously cannot keep all of that hardware running all the time.
During times of sparse tours (pandemic..), we rotate through the
machines and run them for a little while every few weeks.
But disk drives get into trouble with age, even if
continually running.
And some are worse than others. The RD53 is sortof infamous here...
Yeah, they started dying 20+ years ago. Awful.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA