31 May
2020
31 May
'20
6:02 p.m.
? AH, clearly not. Well, I guess this gives away the fact that I don't
always read the directions. Thanks again for this great system.
On 5/31/2020 10:58 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Hi.
On 2020-05-31 17:55, Lee Gleason wrote:
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?? Great work? - sure makes things easier.
?? I don't see the TCP/IP choice on RPM LIST? - have you made it
"live" yet?
Did you do a fetch to get an updated package list?
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On 5/31/2020 10:41 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Yes, this do simplify things even more.
All you need to do is a one time install of whatever package you
want. Then maintenance of an RSX system is essentially just a
question of "RPM ALL". However, a possible additional complication
is that if TCP/IP have been updated, you will want to do a reboot.
So you need to somehow detect if that happened. I have some ideas on
how you could check for that after updating, so that it can all be a
bit more automated, but for a start, the simple "RPM ALL" is
essentially doing almost all the work for you.
? Johnny
On 2020-05-31 17:05, Mark Matlock wrote:
Johnny,
??? This is a very interesting development!! As someone who is
updating about 6 RSX systems with your TCP/IP system on a roughly
weekly basis this is of keen interest to me. I like the idea of
keeping the IPCONFIG separate from RPM since the network
configuration can be so customized especially with the HECnet over
IP capabilities.
??? This is really a revolutionary way to handle RSX software
installation and maintenance!
Thanks,
Mark
> On May 31, 2020, at 9:54 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>
> Ok. Thanks for inspiring me.
>
> I now also have TCP/IP as a package under RPM.
>
> A couple of comments about it are in place:
>
> 1) It's *big* You'll need atleast about 25.000 free blocks to
> install or update. So nothing for anyone with an RL02 as the
> system disk.
>
> 2) It will do the install/update, but it will not start TCP/IP.
> You will still need the separate scripts for TCP/IP in
> LB:[1,2]STARTUP.CMD in order to start the whole thing. RPM can
> only be used for the updating of the system.
>
> 3) Because of some issues, RPM will also not be able to
> automatically handle any updates to your IP configuration as such.
> So after doing an update of TCP/IP, you might want to do that by
> hand, which is done by running "LB:[IP]IPCONFIG UPD". If you are
> downloading the distribution itself, things runs just like before.
>
> 4) Depending on your internet connection, updating this package
> might take a little while. I have also observed some issues with
> some sneaky FTP proxy interfering with FTP transfers from MIM. If
> you are getting errors and timeouts doing transfers over FTP, try
> changing the source to be mim.update.uu.se:10021 instead.
>
> ? Johnny
>
> On 2020-05-31 10:04, R. Voorhorst wrote:
>> Nice functionality to arrive so easily at a well-kept updated
>> environment!
>> Big question now obviously appearing:? will TCP/IP follow suit or
>> is that not so suitable concerning the host machine?
>> Thanks,
>> Reindert
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
>> [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
>> Sent: Sunday, 31 May, 2020 02:24
>> To: Mark Matlock <mark at matlockfamily.com>; hecnet at update.uu.se
>> Cc: Info-PDP11 at dbit.com; SIMH <simh at trailing-edge.com>; [PiDP-11]
>> <pidp-11 at googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [PiDP-11] Re: [HECnet] Announcing RPM, a software
>> packet manager for RSX-11M-PLUS
>> On 2020-05-30 22:04, Mark Matlock wrote:
>>>
>>>> On May 30, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Since I'm on a roll today, I figure I should announce the
>>>> availability of a new tool for RSX, which I think most
>>>> hobbyists will find rather useful.
>>>>
>>>> RPM is a packet manager for RSX (it has nothing to do with the
>>>> Red Hat Packet Manager, except the name).
>>>
>>> Johnny,
>>> ????? I love not only the new RPM software repository tool but
>>> also all the updated software tools. A few of the software
>>> packages that RPM listed were even new to me!
>> You're welcome. And have have *lots* of more software. It will
>> just take a lot of time to work through it all and create
>> packages for it.
>>> ????? Also, I was behind in getting the latest versions of your
>>> NEMA, MKE and several others. This will make it very easy to
>>> stay current.
>> Similar problem to my own... What version did I now have on that
>> machine? Did I do any updates since I last installed there? What
>> software do I actually have? And where is it...?
>>> ???? Thanks for this and also thanks for the latest version of
>>> your TCP/IP system.
>> Happy to provide it. And it looks like it has already seen some
>> action, based on the ftp logs at MIM... :-)
>> ??? Johnny
>
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