23 Feb
2026
23 Feb
'26
12:40 a.m.
Getting files from the internet onto a VMS system with the right
attributes are not trivial. But it's also a question of even getting the
file over without any other kind of mangling happening along the way.
The obvious first question would be how you transferred it to the RSX
system in the first case...
But since a solution have presented itself, the question might be moot.
But in general, be ware that "binary" mode in ftp don't mean things
don't get messed up. Binary basically just means all bets are off. I
could go into more details about what I do in RSX with this and other
modes, if there is enough interest. But it becomes rather obscure, and
very RSX specific...
Johnny
On 2026-02-23 00:30, Jacob Ritorto wrote:
Yup, I used THNITH:: (a real 11/83 that has Johnny’s
RSX TCP) to ftp my original Multinet zip from Internet and then sent it to FASH:: (my
VAXstation) over DECnet. That’s when I found out about the attribute mangling caveat.
--
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|| on a psychedelic trip
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On Feb 22, 2026, at 18:27, Jacob Ritorto
<jacob.ritorto(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Right on, big thx Terri. The transfer is proceeding niiice and slow..
Speaking of Process and vendors still supporting VMS ecosystem, anybody going to Sweden
for this VMS Bootcamp in May? I am so exuberant about my VS 3520 and VMS at the moment
I’m actually considering it. I mean, what if I could quit boring commodity computer work
and work on my beloved DEC stuff for real money! It’s been my dream since I wasa teen.
But there are probably no jobs left in the field, right?
One other Q for Terri: what do I do with all these .a .b .c .d files? Googling for
instructions as soon as I hit send…
thx
jake
> On Feb 22, 2026, at 18:03, Terri Kennedy <terri-hecnet(a)glaver.org> wrote:
>
> Well, I certainly blew that, didn't I...
>
>>> On 2026-02-22 17:58, Terri Kennedy wrote:
>> Just to you, for obvious reasons...
>>> On 2026-02-22 17:38, Jacob Ritorto wrote:
>>> Hehe, yup, Multinet‘s exactly what I’m trying to do, here. But the
>>> Multinet ZIP I have has bad attribs from passing thru other systems,
>>> so UNZIP can’t grok it and is telling me I have to set it to stream
>>> using some utility on the freeware cd (which I can’t unzip :). Hence
>>> the ask to copy it on HECnet so the file transfer doesn’t clobber the
>>> attribs and I can actually use it.
>> $ COPY SPCVXA::MULTINET056.* []
>> Should do it for you. Let me know if it doesn't.
>
> Please do not willy-nilly grab this kit - it was intended just for
> Jacob. Process had official distribution channels that should be used,
> and as soon as Jacob tells me he has the kit, I'll be removing it.
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