Dial in you say? hmmmmm time for some old school BBS :)
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Sampsa Laine<sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Oh and I'll be moving house soon, upgrading my DSL line to a bonded 40 meg
down / 3 meg up dealie. This will give me two spare BT lines that we could
use for some kind of dial up retro goodness - I'm open to suggestions...
Sampsa
On 1 Jul 2009, at 16:22, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Which I assume is a good thing?
BTW, I'm toying with hacking together a Fidonet - HECnet gateway. How easy
is it to get mail in and out of VMS mail using say DCL?
Sampsa
On 1 Jul 2009, at 16:21, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Or am I misunderstanding something?
There are multiple routes now between Johnny's world and the Multinet
world...
Bob
Yes, it is a good thing. A couple years ago when Chrissie was down for a
while, HECnet was effectivelly split into two segments.
Zane
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Which I assume is a good thing?
BTW, I'm toying with hacking together a Fidonet - HECnet gateway. How easy is it to get mail in and out of VMS mail using say DCL?
Sampsa
On 1 Jul 2009, at 16:21, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Or am I misunderstanding something?
There are multiple routes now between Johnny's world and the Multinet
world...
Bob
How easy is it to get mail in and out of VMS mail using say DCL?
Sending is pretty easy, but reading it would require you to do some
parsing (which, of course, can be done).
But there is an API for VMS mail and it'd be easier to write a program to
do it instead (unless you really want to prove that you can do it in DCL)...
Bob
Oh and I'll be moving house soon, upgrading my DSL line to a bonded 40 meg down / 3 meg up dealie. This will give me two spare BT lines that we could use for some kind of dial up retro goodness - I'm open to suggestions...
Sampsa
On 1 Jul 2009, at 16:22, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Which I assume is a good thing?
BTW, I'm toying with hacking together a Fidonet - HECnet gateway. How easy is it to get mail in and out of VMS mail using say DCL?
Sampsa
On 1 Jul 2009, at 16:21, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Or am I misunderstanding something?
There are multiple routes now between Johnny's world and the Multinet
world...
Bob
Which I assume is a good thing?
BTW, I'm toying with hacking together a Fidonet - HECnet gateway. How easy is it to get mail in and out of VMS mail using say DCL?
Sampsa
On 1 Jul 2009, at 16:21, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Or am I misunderstanding something?
There are multiple routes now between Johnny's world and the Multinet
world...
Bob
At 8:21 AM -0700 7/1/09, Bob Armstrong wrote:
>Or am I misunderstanding something?
There are multiple routes now between Johnny's world and the Multinet
world...
Okay, things are a bit more robust than they were a couple years ago. I'm glad to hear that.
Zane
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| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
| healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
Well I've got a connection from 2.1 (LEGATO) coming over a MULTINET tunnel to GORVAX which is on Johnny's bridged network.
Or am I misunderstanding something?
Sampsa
On 1 Jul 2009, at 15:17, Zane H. Healy wrote:
At 7:27 AM +0100 7/1/09, Chrissie Caulfield wrote:
I'll be on holiday for a few days, so Zaphod will be offline until at
least Friday 10th July. Maybe a little longer if I forget to switch him
back on again ;-)
Chrissie,
Are you the only routing area between the Multinet segments and the segments using Johnny's bridge at the moment?
We finally got the house about a month and a half ago. So I'm now sitting on a 20/5 "Commercial Grade" FIOS line, but have yet to get any of my servers online. I'm afraid the odds are you'll be back online before I can get any of my servers up. I still have to find all the cables for them, and sort out cooling. :-(
Zane
--
| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
| healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
At 7:27 AM +0100 7/1/09, Chrissie Caulfield wrote:
I'll be on holiday for a few days, so Zaphod will be offline until at
least Friday 10th July. Maybe a little longer if I forget to switch him
back on again ;-)
Chrissie,
Are you the only routing area between the Multinet segments and the segments using Johnny's bridge at the moment?
We finally got the house about a month and a half ago. So I'm now sitting on a 20/5 "Commercial Grade" FIOS line, but have yet to get any of my servers online. I'm afraid the odds are you'll be back online before I can get any of my servers up. I still have to find all the cables for them, and sort out cooling. :-(
Zane
--
| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
| healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
Hi All,
I'll be on holiday for a few days, so Zaphod will be offline until at
least Friday 10th July. Maybe a little longer if I forget to switch him
back on again ;-)
--
Chrissie
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:50 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> wrote:
Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
I'm in the process of trying to update my archives again, and it seems
I need to know the handle for the FTP site where you're based Johnny.
I guess you're talking about ftp.update.uu.se
I tried what I thought it was, namely sticking the phrase ftp infront
of the domain name for the list after the period of course. The client
thought that's what it was and promptly hung whilst trying to resolve
the domain name appropriately. This happened on two different ones.
Sounds weird...
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Hello!
Sometimes I actually do forget that the US, and NYC isn't the center
of the world, and everything starts and ends here, like the way we
work out the time of day....
I suspect that I caught the server during its possibly nonscheduled down time.
Now everything is working.
----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature was once found posting rude
messages in English in the Moscow subway."
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 10:50:48AM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
I guess you're talking about ftp.update.uu.se
I just tried connecting to ftp.update.uu.se and it works from here.
I tried what I thought it was, namely sticking the phrase ftp infront
of the domain name for the list after the period of course. The client
thought that's what it was and promptly hung whilst trying to resolve
the domain name appropriately. This happened on two different ones.
Sounds weird...
That server went down yesterday sometime during the night/morning and
was rebooted around lunchtime. Perhaps you tried during that time span.
Let me know if you have more problems.
Cheers,
Pontus.
Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
I'm in the process of trying to update my archives again, and it seems
I need to know the handle for the FTP site where you're based Johnny.
I guess you're talking about ftp.update.uu.se
I tried what I thought it was, namely sticking the phrase ftp infront
of the domain name for the list after the period of course. The client
thought that's what it was and promptly hung whilst trying to resolve
the domain name appropriately. This happened on two different ones.
Sounds weird...
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Hello!
I'm in the process of trying to update my archives again, and it seems
I need to know the handle for the FTP site where you're based Johnny.
I tried what I thought it was, namely sticking the phrase ftp infront
of the domain name for the list after the period of course. The client
thought that's what it was and promptly hung whilst trying to resolve
the domain name appropriately. This happened on two different ones.
--
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature was once found posting rude
messages in English in the Moscow subway."
Hi,
sorry for the long delay. My work disturbes occasionally my hobbies. :)
Now the TSM kits (Alpha and VAX) are extracted from the VMS Freeware V5.0.
You can fetch them from my Alpha:
wega.dechobbyist.net
using anonymous ftp.
Kari
Sampsa Laine wrote:
If you could extract it, I would be very grateful, I'm kinda low on space on CHIMPY at the moment.
Can't wait to get to my new place, will be able to bring both the Alphaserver 4100 and rx2600 online.
Sampsa
On 27 May 2009, at 21:25, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
The TOC of the Freeware v5 disks is here:
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/freeware/v5_00freeware_abstract.txt
and the download pointer is here:
ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/openvms//FREEWARE50.ZIP
Yes, I know, it is the whole disk image.
If you aren't in a hurry, I could extract the TSM stuff from my disk and put it on my Alpha for download.
Kari
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Got a pointer for this? I did a quick Google but there was nothing immediately useful (i.e. kits / binaries) in the results.
Sampsa
On 27 May 2009, at 20:44, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
The command "language" is almost same on all DECservers. The newer ones have TCP/IP related commands, which aren't found on older ones.
The help is quite good indeed.
If you are interested, the TSM (Terminal Server Manager) software (for VMS) is freeware. You can use it to configure all your DECservers and retain their configurations on a centralized server.
Chrissie Caulfield wrote:
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Thanks Chrissie, already seen this, unfortunately it does not contain
anything like a command reference that would help me set up the ports
etc. Anyone have something like this? How close are the commands of say
a DECserver 100 to a 200?
It's very similar to a DECserver 100. Most of the differences are to do
with modem control.
I seem to remember it has quite good help too.
.
.
If you could extract it, I would be very grateful, I'm kinda low on space on CHIMPY at the moment.
Can't wait to get to my new place, will be able to bring both the Alphaserver 4100 and rx2600 online.
Sampsa
On 27 May 2009, at 21:25, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
The TOC of the Freeware v5 disks is here:
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/freeware/v5_00freeware_abstract.txt
and the download pointer is here:
ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/openvms//FREEWARE50.ZIP
Yes, I know, it is the whole disk image.
If you aren't in a hurry, I could extract the TSM stuff from my disk and put it on my Alpha for download.
Kari
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Got a pointer for this? I did a quick Google but there was nothing immediately useful (i.e. kits / binaries) in the results.
Sampsa
On 27 May 2009, at 20:44, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
The command "language" is almost same on all DECservers. The newer ones have TCP/IP related commands, which aren't found on older ones.
The help is quite good indeed.
If you are interested, the TSM (Terminal Server Manager) software (for VMS) is freeware. You can use it to configure all your DECservers and retain their configurations on a centralized server.
Chrissie Caulfield wrote:
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Thanks Chrissie, already seen this, unfortunately it does not contain
anything like a command reference that would help me set up the ports
etc. Anyone have something like this? How close are the commands of say
a DECserver 100 to a 200?
It's very similar to a DECserver 100. Most of the differences are to do
with modem control.
I seem to remember it has quite good help too.
.
The TOC of the Freeware v5 disks is here:
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/freeware/v5_00freeware_abstract.txt
and the download pointer is here:
ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/openvms//FREEWARE50.ZIP
Yes, I know, it is the whole disk image.
If you aren't in a hurry, I could extract the TSM stuff from my disk and put it on my Alpha for download.
Kari
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Got a pointer for this? I did a quick Google but there was nothing immediately useful (i.e. kits / binaries) in the results.
Sampsa
On 27 May 2009, at 20:44, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
The command "language" is almost same on all DECservers. The newer ones have TCP/IP related commands, which aren't found on older ones.
The help is quite good indeed.
If you are interested, the TSM (Terminal Server Manager) software (for VMS) is freeware. You can use it to configure all your DECservers and retain their configurations on a centralized server.
Chrissie Caulfield wrote:
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Thanks Chrissie, already seen this, unfortunately it does not contain
anything like a command reference that would help me set up the ports
etc. Anyone have something like this? How close are the commands of say
a DECserver 100 to a 200?
It's very similar to a DECserver 100. Most of the differences are to do
with modem control.
I seem to remember it has quite good help too.
.
Got a pointer for this? I did a quick Google but there was nothing immediately useful (i.e. kits / binaries) in the results.
Sampsa
On 27 May 2009, at 20:44, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
The command "language" is almost same on all DECservers. The newer ones have TCP/IP related commands, which aren't found on older ones.
The help is quite good indeed.
If you are interested, the TSM (Terminal Server Manager) software (for VMS) is freeware. You can use it to configure all your DECservers and retain their configurations on a centralized server.
Chrissie Caulfield wrote:
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Thanks Chrissie, already seen this, unfortunately it does not contain
anything like a command reference that would help me set up the ports
etc. Anyone have something like this? How close are the commands of say
a DECserver 100 to a 200?
It's very similar to a DECserver 100. Most of the differences are to do
with modem control.
I seem to remember it has quite good help too.
The command "language" is almost same on all DECservers. The newer ones have TCP/IP related commands, which aren't found on older ones.
The help is quite good indeed.
If you are interested, the TSM (Terminal Server Manager) software (for VMS) is freeware. You can use it to configure all your DECservers and retain their configurations on a centralized server.
Chrissie Caulfield wrote:
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Thanks Chrissie, already seen this, unfortunately it does not contain
anything like a command reference that would help me set up the ports
etc. Anyone have something like this? How close are the commands of say
a DECserver 100 to a 200?
It's very similar to a DECserver 100. Most of the differences are to do
with modem control.
I seem to remember it has quite good help too.
David Comley wrote:
--- On Wed, 5/27/09, Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> wrote:
And yes, the help system actually holds everything you need
to know.
The trickiest thing is getting the firmware to load when it MOP boots. Once you're past that it's easy enough to configure ports and if I remember correctly the serial lines can autoconfigure anyway which will get you into the help system.
If you have RSX, it just serves the firmware, if you have it, and MOP enabled. Easier than saying "hello".
There seemed to be plenty of copies of the firmware image floating around on the web a couple of years back.
I have it on MIM. Just let me know if you need it.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--- On Wed, 5/27/09, Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> wrote:
And yes, the help system actually holds everything you need
to know.
The trickiest thing is getting the firmware to load when it MOP boots. Once you're past that it's easy enough to configure ports and if I remember correctly the serial lines can autoconfigure anyway which will get you into the help system.
There seemed to be plenty of copies of the firmware image floating around on the web a couple of years back.
-Dave
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Thanks Chrissie, already seen this, unfortunately it does not contain anything like a command reference that would help me set up the ports etc. Anyone have something like this? How close are the commands of say a DECserver 100 to a 200?
Pretty much identical. As Chrissie said, the differences are modem related. But the follow the same patterns, so everything you can do on a DS100 also work on a DS200, you just have a few more parameters...
And yes, the help system actually holds everything you need to know.
Johnny
Sampsa
On 27 May 2009, at 14:25, Chrissie Caulfield wrote:
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Gentlemen, anyone happen to have softcopy documentation for the above?
Just got one off Ebay, will wire it up sooner or later.
Sampsa
If you'll take a reply from a non-gentleman ... I found this :
http://vt100.net/mirror/antonio/d200cin1.pdf
;-)
Chrissie
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
OK, great!
I found a manual for the 100 at: http://vt100.net/mirror/antonio/aaz085atk.pdf
Thought I'd post that here should this question arise again.
Sampsa
On 27 May 2009, at 14:54, Chrissie Caulfield wrote:
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Thanks Chrissie, already seen this, unfortunately it does not contain
anything like a command reference that would help me set up the ports
etc. Anyone have something like this? How close are the commands of say
a DECserver 100 to a 200?
It's very similar to a DECserver 100. Most of the differences are to do
with modem control.
I seem to remember it has quite good help too.
--
Chrissie
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Thanks Chrissie, already seen this, unfortunately it does not contain
anything like a command reference that would help me set up the ports
etc. Anyone have something like this? How close are the commands of say
a DECserver 100 to a 200?
It's very similar to a DECserver 100. Most of the differences are to do
with modem control.
I seem to remember it has quite good help too.
--
Chrissie
Thanks Chrissie, already seen this, unfortunately it does not contain anything like a command reference that would help me set up the ports etc. Anyone have something like this? How close are the commands of say a DECserver 100 to a 200?
Sampsa
On 27 May 2009, at 14:25, Chrissie Caulfield wrote:
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Gentlemen, anyone happen to have softcopy documentation for the above?
Just got one off Ebay, will wire it up sooner or later.
Sampsa
If you'll take a reply from a non-gentleman ... I found this :
http://vt100.net/mirror/antonio/d200cin1.pdf
;-)
Chrissie
