At 7:59 PM +0100 2/15/10, Johnny Billquist wrote:
I'll try with a cable tonight to see if that works better than wireless...
I was busy unprotoizing some C sources to feed the pre-ANSI DECUS C
compiler. Since I see you are working on the bridge, I have made some
further tests tonight.
One thing I forgot to mention in my previous mail : On Mac OS/darwin, eth0
is enO.
So, bridge.conf must contain 'local en0'.
The program I use is not your bridge but a very similar one, intended to
see how much work it would be for a Unix box to pretend to be a DECNET
node. Indeed, I copied your pcap initialization part, filter included, then
added my code.
Assume
machine A running node 1.1,
machine B running node 1.2,
machine C running nothing,
all on a wired, switched LAN.
When my program is running on machine C, I see all broadcast packets:
Router-hello l2rout (DECNET packets, size 60)
Lev-1-routing (DECNET packets, size 386 and 590x)
Lev-2-routing (DECNET packets, size 152)
A few LAN packets, size 60.
Since I am on a switched network, I see none of the unicast packets, for
example when I initiate a DECNET transfer between A and B.
When my program is running on machine B, I see:
Same packets as above (pcap_setdirection was called with PCAP_D_INOUT).
Packets identified as data, data-ack, link-service, ils-ack by tcpdump.
Until now, I have not seen a packet in tcpdump I have not seen in my
program, which is basically yours for the pcap part. By the way, I'm
looking for a document describing DECNET frames to dive a little deeper in
that way. Any pointer will be appreciated.
All tests use Apple's libpcap.dylib in /usr/lib, NOT libpcap.a in
/usr/local/lib which was required to install simh on Mac OS X. I'm running
Tiger, so you should have no problems using Leopard.
Well, I realize that this is my first contribution to this list and maybe a
short introduction is due. Here we go...
I have been working with RSX-11M from '80 to '87. First in computer music
research (GRM, Paris), then in pre-press/phototypesetting. Some old systems
have been donated to me, noticeably SMS (Scientific Micro Systems) OEM
LSI-11/73.
As a hobby project, i've resurrected these systems, then linked them to
simh via DECNET. A few details of the project here, unfortunately in french
but I'm sure you will enjoy SEAGATE surgery http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/
and maybe DC600 meltdown:
http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/photos/TANDBERG/P1010012.JPG
Unfortunately, any interesting RSX software I could share (yet another full
screen editor, a hierarchical filesystem for RSX and some funny drivers)
are locked on a set of magtapes I did not manage to backup before the day
tape drives lifted off earth for an secret destination. So is life...
--
Jean-Yves Bernier
That's the one!
I'm hoping to get the most interesting talks and demos recorded in HD video to susequently upload to the internet. So hopefully anyone who misses the day will still get to share some of the fun.
Jason Stevens wrote:
This event, right?
http://wickensonline.co.uk/declegacy/
sigh i think I picked the wrong month to be in the UK....
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk <mailto:mark at wickensonline.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi guys,
I've now secured an internet connection for the DEC Legacy event
in April and wanted to pick your collective brains about what
might be interesting to hecnet hobbyists who won't be able to
attend the event if we can get some of the machines that will be
in attendance connected up to hecnet on the day.
A couple of my machines will be there - probably the VAX 4000/90
and either the DEC 3000/600 or the ZX6000 itanium workstation -
I'm presuming I'll need to supply an updated IP address for Jonny
to patch me in given that my bridge will be on a different IP
address? Also, would it be possible for those attendees who've not
been connected previously to get connected up on the day, given
that they won't have to worry about the bridge setup?
Would anyone fancy participating in a coding competition? Anyone
have any other suggestions?
Kind regards, Mark.
This event, right?
http://wickensonline.co.uk/declegacy/
sigh i think I picked the wrong month to be in the UK....
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
Hi guys,
I've now secured an internet connection for the DEC Legacy event in April and wanted to pick your collective brains about what might be interesting to hecnet hobbyists who won't be able to attend the event if we can get some of the machines that will be in attendance connected up to hecnet on the day.
A couple of my machines will be there - probably the VAX 4000/90 and either the DEC 3000/600 or the ZX6000 itanium workstation - I'm presuming I'll need to supply an updated IP address for Jonny to patch me in given that my bridge will be on a different IP address? Also, would it be possible for those attendees who've not been connected previously to get connected up on the day, given that they won't have to worry about the bridge setup?
Would anyone fancy participating in a coding competition? Anyone have any other suggestions?
Kind regards, Mark.
Hi guys,
I've now secured an internet connection for the DEC Legacy event in April and wanted to pick your collective brains about what might be interesting to hecnet hobbyists who won't be able to attend the event if we can get some of the machines that will be in attendance connected up to hecnet on the day.
A couple of my machines will be there - probably the VAX 4000/90 and either the DEC 3000/600 or the ZX6000 itanium workstation - I'm presuming I'll need to supply an updated IP address for Jonny to patch me in given that my bridge will be on a different IP address? Also, would it be possible for those attendees who've not been connected previously to get connected up on the day, given that they won't have to worry about the bridge setup?
Would anyone fancy participating in a coding competition? Anyone have any other suggestions?
Kind regards, Mark.
Yes, the #if stuff I have had to adapt for OS X as well.
I'll try with a cable tonight to see if that works better than wireless...
Johnny
Jean-Yves Bernier wrote:
At 2:17 AM +0100 2/15/10, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed to be
a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured out yet,
and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I don't have to go
figure it out myself.
I have your bridge working on Mac OS X.
I forced
#define __FreeBSD__
to get
ioctl(BIOCIMMEDIATE, BIOCSHDRCMPLT) compiled.
I get the same packets as tcpdump, that is:
- broadcasts from all nodes, if I run on a distinct machine (no simulator)
router-hello, lev-1-routing, lev-2-routing
- broadcasts and unicasts to me, if I run on a machine hosting a simulator
link-service, data-ack, ils-ack, data
I am on a switched network with unmanaged switches, so i'm unable to sniff
all traffic for the moment.
At 2:17 AM +0100 2/15/10, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed to be
a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured out yet,
and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I don't have to go
figure it out myself.
I have your bridge working on Mac OS X.
I forced
#define __FreeBSD__
to get
ioctl(BIOCIMMEDIATE, BIOCSHDRCMPLT) compiled.
I get the same packets as tcpdump, that is:
- broadcasts from all nodes, if I run on a distinct machine (no simulator)
router-hello, lev-1-routing, lev-2-routing
- broadcasts and unicasts to me, if I run on a machine hosting a simulator
link-service, data-ack, ils-ack, data
I am on a switched network with unmanaged switches, so i'm unable to sniff
all traffic for the moment.
--
Jean-Yves Bernier
In my local case, the bridge only have one UDP socket, and one local NIC.
I can even reduce it to only run with the NIC, and I still see the problem.
Johnny
Jason Stevens wrote:
Does you bridge have many connections to it? I recall last time I glanced thru the source code it wasn't using blocking sockets... perhaps its getting 'stuck' on a socket and effectively missing packets...?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
Very possibly. The annoying thing is the fact that tcpdump sees more
packets than I (my bridge) do.
Johnny
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Johnny,
Not sure this is related but I tried to run SIMH on OS X over
the wireless and DECNET didn't work - it might be more than just
a pcap issue, the problem could be OS X's wireless NIC drivers
or something.
Sampsa
On 15 Feb 2010, at 01:17, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is
supposed to be a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I
haven't figured out yet, and thought that maybe someone here
already knows, so I don't have to go figure it out myself.
Running my bridge program on MAC OS X, I don't get all
packets, but I do get some of them. I can't see a pattern to it.
This is done over wireless ethernet.
The interesting thing is that tcpdump manages to see all of
them. I'm very curious on why tcpdump manages to see packets
that I don't see... Anyone have any ideas?
Feel free to ask questions. I'll happily explain what I have
tested, and done, and whatnot.
Johnny
-- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> ||
Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" -
B. Idol
Marc Chametzky wrote:
Not sure this is related but I tried to run SIMH on OS X over the wireless and DECNET didn't work - it might be more than just a pcap issue, the problem could be OS X's wireless NIC drivers or something.
Aren't there issues with wireless network connections only supporting a single MAC address thus making bridging not work properly?
Could be. However, in this case, I can definitely see that my bridge are not getting some packets that tcpdump are getting.
That discrepancy shouldn't be there, and is definitely not in the scope of the capabilities of the interface as such.
If I would have a situation where the bridge program and tcpdump would agree, and it still didn't work, then I would start looking at the possibility that the wireless interface didn't support all the stuff I need.
Johnny
Does you bridge have many connections to it? I recall last time I glanced thru the source code it wasn't using blocking sockets... perhaps its getting 'stuck' on a socket and effectively missing packets...?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Very possibly. The annoying thing is the fact that tcpdump sees more packets than I (my bridge) do.
Johnny
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Johnny,
Not sure this is related but I tried to run SIMH on OS X over the wireless and DECNET didn't work - it might be more than just a pcap issue, the problem could be OS X's wireless NIC drivers or something.
Sampsa
On 15 Feb 2010, at 01:17, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed to be a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured out yet, and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I don't have to go figure it out myself.
Running my bridge program on MAC OS X, I don't get all packets, but I do get some of them. I can't see a pattern to it.
This is done over wireless ethernet.
The interesting thing is that tcpdump manages to see all of them. I'm very curious on why tcpdump manages to see packets that I don't see... Anyone have any ideas?
Feel free to ask questions. I'll happily explain what I have tested, and done, and whatnot.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Very possibly. The annoying thing is the fact that tcpdump sees more packets than I (my bridge) do.
Johnny
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Johnny,
Not sure this is related but I tried to run SIMH on OS X over the wireless and DECNET didn't work - it might be more than just a pcap issue, the problem could be OS X's wireless NIC drivers or something.
Sampsa
On 15 Feb 2010, at 01:17, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed to be a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured out yet, and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I don't have to go figure it out myself.
Running my bridge program on MAC OS X, I don't get all packets, but I do get some of them. I can't see a pattern to it.
This is done over wireless ethernet.
The interesting thing is that tcpdump manages to see all of them. I'm very curious on why tcpdump manages to see packets that I don't see... Anyone have any ideas?
Feel free to ask questions. I'll happily explain what I have tested, and done, and whatnot.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Not sure this is related but I tried to run SIMH on OS X over the wireless and DECNET didn't work - it might be more than just a pcap issue, the problem could be OS X's wireless NIC drivers or something.
Aren't there issues with wireless network connections only supporting a single MAC address thus making bridging not work properly?
--Marc
Johnny,
Not sure this is related but I tried to run SIMH on OS X over the wireless and DECNET didn't work - it might be more than just a pcap issue, the problem could be OS X's wireless NIC drivers or something.
Sampsa
On 15 Feb 2010, at 01:17, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed to be a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured out yet, and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I don't have to go figure it out myself.
Running my bridge program on MAC OS X, I don't get all packets, but I do get some of them. I can't see a pattern to it.
This is done over wireless ethernet.
The interesting thing is that tcpdump manages to see all of them. I'm very curious on why tcpdump manages to see packets that I don't see... Anyone have any ideas?
Feel free to ask questions. I'll happily explain what I have tested, and done, and whatnot.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Speaking of which, it might be a good time to point out that the bridge program works fine on NetBSD, Linux and OpenBSD atleast (I think FreeBSD have also reported success).
And I'm now trying this on Snow Leopard. This is the first time I've tried on wireless as well.
So in general, there is nothing wrong with the program, nor the filter. I'm just having these problems explicitly on this platform. I can definitely see tcpdump printing out packets while the bridge program sits quite not receiving anything.
Johnny
Johnny Billquist wrote:
Yeah, possible problems with the filter program have been considered. I
tried skipping the filter program totally, but that didn't seem to solve
my problems. Might be worth examining a bit more anyway.
(I have a software check for "valid" packets as well, so skipping the
filter don't really hurt, except for performance reasons.)
Any suggestion on what libpcap might be good to use?
I seem to remember having problems with the network in simh as well,
when using it over wireless. I think I should test the wired interface
to see if the bridge works fine over that.
(I would sure like to check the tcpdump sources if they do something
funny...)
Johnny
Jason Stevens wrote:
sounds like a broke filter...?
I do recall it is quite touchy, and that when I used to build osx libpcap stuff (simh) in the past, I'd just download the latest pcap myself, and manually link that into the exe so it didn't use the system libpcap.....
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed
to be a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured
out yet, and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I
don't have to go figure it out myself.
Running my bridge program on MAC OS X, I don't get all packets, but
I do get some of them. I can't see a pattern to it.
This is done over wireless ethernet.
The interesting thing is that tcpdump manages to see all of them.
I'm very curious on why tcpdump manages to see packets that I don't
see... Anyone have any ideas?
Feel free to ask questions. I'll happily explain what I have tested,
and done, and whatnot.
Johnny
-- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> ||
Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Yeah, possible problems with the filter program have been considered. I
tried skipping the filter program totally, but that didn't seem to solve
my problems. Might be worth examining a bit more anyway.
(I have a software check for "valid" packets as well, so skipping the
filter don't really hurt, except for performance reasons.)
Any suggestion on what libpcap might be good to use?
I seem to remember having problems with the network in simh as well,
when using it over wireless. I think I should test the wired interface
to see if the bridge works fine over that.
(I would sure like to check the tcpdump sources if they do something
funny...)
Johnny
Jason Stevens wrote:
sounds like a broke filter...?
I do recall it is quite touchy, and that when I used to build osx libpcap stuff (simh) in the past, I'd just download the latest pcap myself, and manually link that into the exe so it didn't use the system libpcap.....
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed
to be a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured
out yet, and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I
don't have to go figure it out myself.
Running my bridge program on MAC OS X, I don't get all packets, but
I do get some of them. I can't see a pattern to it.
This is done over wireless ethernet.
The interesting thing is that tcpdump manages to see all of them.
I'm very curious on why tcpdump manages to see packets that I don't
see... Anyone have any ideas?
Feel free to ask questions. I'll happily explain what I have tested,
and done, and whatnot.
Johnny
-- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> ||
Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
sounds like a broke filter...?
I do recall it is quite touchy, and that when I used to build osx libpcap stuff (simh) in the past, I'd just download the latest pcap myself, and manually link that into the exe so it didn't use the system libpcap.....
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed to be a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured out yet, and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I don't have to go figure it out myself.
Running my bridge program on MAC OS X, I don't get all packets, but I do get some of them. I can't see a pattern to it.
This is done over wireless ethernet.
The interesting thing is that tcpdump manages to see all of them. I'm very curious on why tcpdump manages to see packets that I don't see... Anyone have any ideas?
Feel free to ask questions. I'll happily explain what I have tested, and done, and whatnot.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed to be a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured out yet, and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I don't have to go figure it out myself.
Running my bridge program on MAC OS X, I don't get all packets, but I do get some of them. I can't see a pattern to it.
This is done over wireless ethernet.
The interesting thing is that tcpdump manages to see all of them. I'm very curious on why tcpdump manages to see packets that I don't see... Anyone have any ideas?
Feel free to ask questions. I'll happily explain what I have tested, and done, and whatnot.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 8.2.2010 12:12, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Gentlemen,
Is there any mileage in possibly moving the mailing list to something
like phpBB with a mailing list interface?
Basically, the current use pattern (i.e. emailing to a list and
receiving new posts via email) would remain unchanged, but there would
be an ability for users to view past posts etc via a web interface?
I'd be happy to look at setting this up if there's any interest.
Sampsa
.
Would VAXnotes be an option?
It's Freeware now and there are images for VAX and Alpha and even I64.
Very little work setting it up.
Kari
Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
This list seems to be quiet today, so here goes.
Basically I've recycled a project. In this case its to construct a
something to talk to DEC designed ports. It turns out that after
making my way last night through Google and the NetBSD Vax port
listings, I have discovered that the MMJ connectors are still active.
Two places are selling the tools to make cables, one firm local to me,
is still selling the connectors, and one firm is still selling the
Ideal Tool designed crimping device. And indeed links for them came
from the list.
Now the irony, the manufacturer behind the gadget I am interested, has
renamed itself, according to Wikipedia, and has a badly designed
website. The manual for it was found from someplace else via Google.
The manual for it also confirms something that both this list, and
that the NetBSD list have long surmised, that the MMJ pinouts are for
RS-423 connections. The adapters we use for RS-232 connectors on our
PCs for acting as hosts obviously do the translation.
And as it happens snow finally came to my area, and shutdown for the
day the schools in NYC.
I'm not sure what you are saying here...
Maybe I'm dense, or something.
I'm not aware that this list (or some people) on it have surmised anything. Can't speak for the NetBSD-list, as there are way too many people there, with different knowledge and experience...
And in my mind (atleast) it has been known since the dawn of time that the DEC MMJ connectors are RS-423.
See for instance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modified_Modular_Jack
The MMJ are RS-232 compatible (as is RS-423), the adapters just do the wiring properly, and that's it.
Friday at last. HECnet seems to be running pretty stable at the moment. A few machines come and go, but we seem to be pretty stable on which areas are online.
As of this moment:
.ncp sho act are
Active areas summary as of 12-FEB-10 17:52:23
Next
Area State Circuit Node
1 Reachable 1.13 (MIM)
2 Reachable UNA-0 60.664 (PDXVAX)
11 Reachable UNA-0 11.2 (MAISA)
19 Reachable UNA-0 1.400 (GORVAX)
59 Reachable UNA-0 60.664 (PDXVAX)
60 Reachable UNA-0 60.664 (PDXVAX)
Johnny
Hello!
This list seems to be quiet today, so here goes.
Basically I've recycled a project. In this case its to construct a
something to talk to DEC designed ports. It turns out that after
making my way last night through Google and the NetBSD Vax port
listings, I have discovered that the MMJ connectors are still active.
Two places are selling the tools to make cables, one firm local to me,
is still selling the connectors, and one firm is still selling the
Ideal Tool designed crimping device. And indeed links for them came
from the list.
Now the irony, the manufacturer behind the gadget I am interested, has
renamed itself, according to Wikipedia, and has a badly designed
website. The manual for it was found from someplace else via Google.
The manual for it also confirms something that both this list, and
that the NetBSD list have long surmised, that the MMJ pinouts are for
RS-423 connections. The adapters we use for RS-232 connectors on our
PCs for acting as hosts obviously do the translation.
And as it happens snow finally came to my area, and shutdown for the
day the schools in NYC.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Gentlemen,
Is there any mileage in possibly moving the mailing list to something like phpBB with a mailing list interface?
Basically, the current use pattern (i.e. emailing to a list and receiving new posts via email) would remain unchanged, but there would be an ability for users to view past posts etc via a web interface?
I'd be happy to look at setting this up if there's any interest.
Sampsa
On 7 Feb 2010, at 03:35, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Great! I am looking at this directory:
http://rhesus.sampsa.com/medialib/vax/ I've figured out that the zip
file contains a build of Multinet for the VAX. But what about those
two ISO images?
Those SHOULD be the install and layered products CDs for VAX VMS 7.3..
Incidentally if you see a short individual wearing a hair style also
worn by the Beatles and a boring sport jacket and shirt, and check
pants and is followed by a pretty young woman and a chap wearing a
MacCrimmon tartan, duck. That's the Second Doctor, and they're rumored
to be in your area.
West Kensington gets more interesting by the day I guess...
Sampsa
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Typo, thought I'd clarify:
In case you need to get stuff from RHESUS over HTTP, the media library dir
is _NOW_ available at http://rhesus.sampsa.com/medialib/
On 7 Feb 2010, at 03:19, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Guys,
In case you need to get stuff from RHESUS over HTTP, the media library dir
is not available at http://rhesus.sampsa.com/medialib/
Sampsa
Hello!
Great! I am looking at this directory:
http://rhesus.sampsa.com/medialib/vax/ I've figured out that the zip
file contains a build of Multinet for the VAX. But what about those
two ISO images?
Incidentally if you see a short individual wearing a hair style also
worn by the Beatles and a boring sport jacket and shirt, and check
pants and is followed by a pretty young woman and a chap wearing a
MacCrimmon tartan, duck. That's the Second Doctor, and they're rumored
to be in your area.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
OK, pulling them down now - putting them into [.MEDIALIB.OLEG].
Also, I'm going to set up an directory called [.MEDIALIB.INBOX] where people can add files independent of me, and then just drop me a line once they're there - alas, my bridge is down at the moment so this won't be usable quite yet.
Sampsa
On 7 Feb 2010, at 03:31, Oleg Safiullin wrote:
On 07.02.2010 9:27, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Mind if I pull those down now
Feel free to download them any time.
There's also OpenVMS/I64 DVD there:
http://pdp-11.org.ru/~form/files/hidden/ovms/ovms-i64.iso
but I didn't check it because I don't have ia64 machines :)
On 07.02.2010 9:27, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Mind if I pull those down now
Feel free to download them any time.
There's also OpenVMS/I64 DVD there:
http://pdp-11.org.ru/~form/files/hidden/ovms/ovms-i64.iso
but I didn't check it because I don't have ia64 machines :)