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by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Marty or Megan? Last time I asked Megan about it, she thought she had a kit, but it was where she couldn't get to it. I know that feeling I'm only just starting to get access to much of my hardware that has been unaccessible for the past decade. I've been trying to get a kit for a decade or more. :-( In that time I've been able to learn almost nothing about it. The existence of an XC handler is news to me. Zane At 3:37 PM -0400 6/6/10, Steve Davidson wrote: Zane, I have been able to find only half the kit. It is installed on my Pro however. DEC only made the one kit - the Pro was never included or excluded to my knowledge. When I joined the RT-11 group DECnet on RT-11 was cancelled within a week of my start date. I had hoped to work on that project, but that never came to be. The XC "handler" (driver) is the 10M interface on the Pro. It was written by Marty Gentry just before DECnet's cancellation. -Steve Do you have the DECnet kit for RT-11, or is this a version specific to the Pro-380? Zane At 7:41 PM -0400 6/4/10, Steve Davidson wrote: >I have an ULTRIX kit, but no license. I also have Digital UNIX but again no >license. I do not have DECnet for either - sorry. > >I am working on getting a PRO-380 (RT-11) w/DECnet to talk to HECnet. The >DECNA has died a horrible death but the com port may be a possibility. > >-Steve -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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Announcement: We've rolled out a retro UUCP network, UUHEC.net

by sampsa＠mac.com

Whilst not strictly HECnet related, I figured as this audience is likely to be full of people who enjoy tinkering with various bits of retro tech stuff and so I thought I'd let you know that we've rolled out a small UUCP "network" between myself, Steve and Fred. It runs over TCP links between our sites, mainly running Taylor UUCP, however one of my hosts runs a 1992 bit of BBS software called Waffle 1.65. Let me know if anyone wants to join in, it's a giggle, really*. I'll even route real internet mail for interested parties** - we have registered the UUHEC.net domain for this purpose. Sampsa * Seriously, check out the crazy Waffle BBS software by logging into CHIMPY as the user B4BBS and then log on as WAFFLE at B4BBS. It's default messages keep cracking me up, random Zippy the Pinhead quotes all over the place. ** Within reason.

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Re: DECnet kit for RT-11

by davidson＠declab.net

Zane, I have been able to find only half the kit. It is installed on my Pro however. DEC only made the one kit - the Pro was never included or excluded to my knowledge. When I joined the RT-11 group DECnet on RT-11 was cancelled within a week of my start date. I had hoped to work on that project, but that never came to be. The XC "handler" (driver) is the 10M interface on the Pro. It was written by Marty Gentry just before DECnet's cancellation. -Steve Do you have the DECnet kit for RT-11, or is this a version specific to the Pro-380? Zane At 7:41 PM -0400 6/4/10, Steve Davidson wrote: I have an ULTRIX kit, but no license. I also have Digital UNIX but again no license. I do not have DECnet for either - sorry. I am working on getting a PRO-380 (RT-11) w/DECnet to talk to HECnet. The DECNA has died a horrible death but the com port may be a possibility. -Steve -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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New Digital Unix node TIGER on HECnet

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

At 9:34 PM +0800 6/5/10, Tim Sneddon wrote: On 5/06/2010 4:35 PM, Mark Wickens wrote: RE: VAXstation 4000/VLC - when I tried to do development on the box or display remote decterms it was pretty slow, even with 24MB. Also, you must have different/newer fans in yours - mine make a hell of a racket! I will agree with being slow :-) I find that it's not too bad though. Unfortunately I don't have the space to get the 4000/90 up and running. I too had noisy fans, but after a healthy dose of contact cleaner and oil they are almost silent. Maybe they just need a good clean? I wonder if that's what mine needs. I'm trying to remember if the PS was totally dead, or if it was howling to the point I couldn't run it in the dining room (actually that wouldn't be a problem now that it lives in the garage). I've been wondering if the fans are replaceable. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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New Digital Unix node TIGER on HECnet

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

At 8:42 PM +0200 6/5/10, gerry77 at mail.com wrote: On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 01:30:43 +0200, you wrote: TOPS-10 (could it even connect to DECnet?) It can! About a couple of years ago we were able to run DECnet Phase IV on Ethernet, by running TOPS-10 7.04 on the KLH10 emulator. Alas, to idle the emulator, the TOPS-10 monitor has to be modified so that it would make some I/O to a special device which would trigger the idle code into the emulator, but we never figured out how to do that. The TWONKY image has 4 different TOPS-10 7.04 monitors. http://klh10.trailing-edge.com/ One has LAT, and another has LAT and DECnet. Having LAT is nice if you have a LAT terminal server, since it allows you to easily connect a real terminal. :-) I'm afraid I can't help on the throttling. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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New Digital Unix node TIGER on HECnet

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Do you have the DECnet kit for RT-11, or is this a version specific to the Pro-380? Zane At 7:41 PM -0400 6/4/10, Steve Davidson wrote: I have an ULTRIX kit, but no license. I also have Digital UNIX but again no license. I do not have DECnet for either - sorry. I am working on getting a PRO-380 (RT-11) w/DECnet to talk to HECnet. The DECNA has died a horrible death but the com port may be a possibility. -Steve -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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New Digital Unix node TIGER on HECnet

by bqt＠softjar.se

Hmm, I have simh running on Snow Leopard. I might have fixed something for it to work though. I'll try to remember to check later. Right now I have too many other things to attend to... Johnny Sampsa Laine wrote: Yes, had the same issue, had to move my SIMH machine (GORVAX) onto a Leopard box. Sampsa On 6 Jun 2010, at 00:40, Dan Williams wrote: I did have a simh machine on OSX but it stopped working with snow leopard and I didn't have the time to find out why. I also have a copy of decnet for Irix but not a license and I am not familiar enough with it to get it working. If anyone wants a copy let me know. Dan -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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New Digital Unix node TIGER on HECnet

by sampsa＠mac.com

Yes, had the same issue, had to move my SIMH machine (GORVAX) onto a Leopard box. Sampsa On 6 Jun 2010, at 00:40, Dan Williams wrote: I did have a simh machine on OSX but it stopped working with snow leopard and I didn't have the time to find out why. I also have a copy of decnet for Irix but not a license and I am not familiar enough with it to get it working. If anyone wants a copy let me know. Dan

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New Digital Unix node TIGER on HECnet

by williams.dan＠gmail.com

I did have a simh machine on OSX but it stopped working with snow leopard and I didn't have the time to find out why. I also have a copy of decnet for Irix but not a license and I am not familiar enough with it to get it working. If anyone wants a copy let me know. Dan

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by wilson＠dbit.com

From: gerry77 at mail.com We obviously needed (and still need) the idle function because of power- consumption-related problems, so we were stuck and had to forget about that. OK, you tried playing nice -- so now play dirty! If you never found a way to make NULJOB (or whatever TOPS-10 has for an idle loop -- I've never been into the sources) identify itself to KLH10, why not hack up KLH10 to detect NULJOB itself? If you can't rebuild it then its address isn't going to change on you (on a given installation anyway). The *clever* part would be to do it w/o adding an address/mode test to every single opcode fetch (but even if you have to do that it'll still be fast enough). With E11 I got lucky -- one of the ways to display the null job blinky lights pattern on a PDP-11 is with the WAIT instruction, so all the OSes use it, and that's obviously the right time to take a snooze. Maybe there's something along those lines that KLH10 could use? John Wilson D Bit

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by gerry77＠mail.com

On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 01:30:43 +0200, you wrote: TOPS-10 (could it even connect to DECnet?) It can! About a couple of years ago we were able to run DECnet Phase IV on Ethernet, by running TOPS-10 7.04 on the KLH10 emulator. Alas, to idle the emulator, the TOPS-10 monitor has to be modified so that it would make some I/O to a special device which would trigger the idle code into the emulator, but we never figured out how to do that. Given that TOPS-10 comes with full sources and that the instructions to be added to the monitor are just two or three MACRO-10 lines, that's the easy part of the task. Instead, problems arise when it's time to actually generate a new monitor from sources. There is a guided procedure called MONGEN which asks for some parameters and then generates some source files used to conditionally assemble and link a new monitor (it reminds me of some very old "make config"). That whole task is quite easy to follow and we were very happy with it, but then we discovered that it cannot be used to completely rebuild the monitor, as it assembles some minor code and relinks everything against a big TOPS10.REL file which is indeed the monitor major block. There are provisions to rebuild TOPS10.REL, but the Software Installation Guide just directs to Appendix B, where it is suggested that, for more information about building the monitor library file, we should read the batch control file COMPIL.CTL. Unfortunately, COMPIL.CTL does not contain any comment or explanation and we think it is intended for somebody with a previous somewhat deep knowledge about such tasks, which we do not have. Even the relevant manuals are not overly clear about this topic, and many little details are left to immagination (or knowledge, as said). We obviously needed (and still need) the idle function because of power- consumption-related problems, so we were stuck and had to forget about that. Anyway, when we used it, we were able to use SET HOST from VMS and to copy files back and forth with COPY on the VMS side and NFT on the TOPS-10 one, so probably even other DECnet functions such as NML would nicely work. Cheers, :-) G. P.S. SIMH is not a viable choice, because it emulates only a KS10 CPU, while DECnet requires a KL10 CPU for its attached NIA20 Ethernet interface.

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New Digital Unix node TIGER on HECnet

by tim.sneddon＠bigpond.com

On 5/06/2010 4:35 PM, Mark Wickens wrote: I have the SPL for Ultrix, some licences (not sure about the base OS license) and am shortly picking up a VS3100 that will run it. Always fancied the idea of Unix on a VAX, so will definitely give it a whirl - even better to get it connected to HECnet - another one off the list! So I may be calling on the group of a couple of missing jigsaw pieces. RE: VAXstation 4000/VLC - when I tried to do development on the box or display remote decterms it was pretty slow, even with 24MB. Also, you must have different/newer fans in yours - mine make a hell of a racket! I will agree with being slow :-) I find that it's not too bad though. Unfortunately I don't have the space to get the 4000/90 up and running. I too had noisy fans, but after a healthy dose of contact cleaner and oil they are almost silent. Maybe they just need a good clean? Tim.

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DECnet Area Router question

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Zane H. Healy wrote: On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Mark Wickens wrote: My power consumption page might help a bit: http://lakesdev.blogspot.com/2008/09/power-consumption-of-computers-and.html The VAXstation 4000/VLC takes the lowest power but at about 6 VUPS it is quite slow. The 4000/60 and 4000/90 (BUBBLE) take about 100 Watts, which is twice as much, but are *so* much more usable. In terms of alpha, the lowest power I've found so far is the Alphaserver 300 4/266 (TIGER) which clocks at about 100 watts. The Alphaserver 1000A runs at about 180 watts which is pretty good given the expansion possibilities (it has a BA356 8 drive enclosure built in). I'm currently running a BUBBLE and TIGER 24/7 which is a VAX and Alpha node for 200 watts total. Mark. My VAXstation 4000/VLC has a dead power supply. Plus the BA353 I was using it on it has a dead powersupply. Those two bits originally made up PDXVAX. The current PDXVAX hardware is a VAXstation 4000/60 and a BA350 (with 1 2GB drive). My VAXstation 4000/90 has issues, but I forget what. MONK is currently a XP1000 with three SCSI buses. The Narrow SCSI drives a TLZ06, the FWD-SCSI drives a DLT7000 drive, and then the U2W-SCSI has 2 JBOD boxes with 3 36GB 10k drives each. I'm thinking something like an AlphaStation 200 4/233 or even DEC 3000/133 with a BA350 and 2-3 4GB drives. That would definitely be a bit more affordable power wise than MONK and PDXVAX combined. In fact less than 10 years ago, that was the hardware MONK was running on. Oh, and yes, I have a preference for external HD's. I have a lot of 4GB SBB's for BA350's and a lot of SCA SCSI HD's, but very few drives I can use internally without opening up SBB's. Zane The Alphaserver 300 4/266 known as TIGER was running a 2GB internal drive, but that wasn't big enough for me to load the SPLs, Freeware and my own gubbins. It has a wide ultra scsi pci controller card, so I got a 73GB 3.5" internal drive off ebay for GBP 15 which is working very nicely within the 100 watts mentioned previously. I have a BA356 (which I had a 16 bit personality module for but no cable until recently) and a stash of new 4.3GB SBBs but if I plug that in I'm running another 50 watts again - that's why I prefer to have one big internal drive, although the BA356 is very convenient for backups and data transfer, as is my external DDS3 DAT drive. Mark.

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New Digital Unix node TIGER on HECnet

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

I have the SPL for Ultrix, some licences (not sure about the base OS license) and am shortly picking up a VS3100 that will run it. Always fancied the idea of Unix on a VAX, so will definitely give it a whirl - even better to get it connected to HECnet - another one off the list! So I may be calling on the group of a couple of missing jigsaw pieces. RE: VAXstation 4000/VLC - when I tried to do development on the box or display remote decterms it was pretty slow, even with 24MB. Also, you must have different/newer fans in yours - mine make a hell of a racket! It is also unstable, crashing after 24 hours or so, which is why it got replaced with the 4000/60 then upgraded to the 4000/90. Having said *all* that, if I could get hold of a stable motherboard I'd like to make a suitcase VAX - the motherboard is diminutive - and a replacement, modern power supply would be about the same size as a 1" high 3.5 HD. Regards, Mark Johnny Billquist wrote: Steve Davidson wrote: I have an ULTRIX kit, but no license. I also have Digital UNIX but again no license. I do not have DECnet for either - sorry. Ah. Too bad. The kits I have too. And license (well, for Ultrix atleast). But no kit for DECnet. I am working on getting a PRO-380 (RT-11) w/DECnet to talk to HECnet. The DECNA has died a horrible death but the com port may be a possibility. Wish I had a DECNA. By PRO-380 is connected to HECnet using the comm port, but that machine is running P/OS. (BEA::) Johnny -Steve Mark Wickens wrote: Folks I've just finished configuring my Alphaserver 300 4/266 running Digital Unix 4.0G to be on HECnet via DECNET/OSI basic configuration. I don't know whether there are other Digital Unix systems out there! The new node is 1.258, TIGER, requiring a node list update to find. Next step is to install the Mailbus 400 SMTP Gateway... Nice! Does anyone have DECnet for Ultrix around? I have Ultrix 4.5 here, but no DECnet... :-) Known OSes on HECnet: RSX VMS P/OS TOPS-20 RSTS/E OSF/1 Linux Windows Missing (as far as I know): Ultrix TOPS-10 (could it even connect to DECnet?) RT-11 RTS/8 (doubtful if possible, supposedly only supported phase II) (MAC) (SUN/OS) (Genera) Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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DECnet Area Router question

by fcoffey＠thrifty.misernet.net

On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Robert Armstrong wrote: It "just works" - CHARON is an AXP, and it does DECnet area routing just fine. Ignore the documentation that says you can't do it, set your executor type to 'AREA' and that's all you need. I'm curious to know what would crash my Alpha when I had it set to executor type "area" and when I would try to "set cir tcp-x-y state off" BOOOM. Crash in NETACP. I have crash dumps to prove it (this has been both on and off HECNet, despite the fact that I shouldn't be an area router (and no longer am at this point until I move to my own area). Fred ---- Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.

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by sampsa＠mac.com

Ah yes, I did read somewhere that CD-ROM drives were OK - but as for hard drives, I don't think that'd be a great idea... Sampsa On 5 Jun 2010, at 02:45, Zane H. Healy wrote: Interesting, I could swear I connected a CD-ROM drive to it 7+ years ago. Did I mention it's been a long time since I've used SIMH, and I've only used if for the PDP-10 and PDP-11 emulators. Zane On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Sampsa Laine wrote: Actually, from the SIMH FAQ (http://simh.trailing-edge.com/pdf/simh_faq.pdf): 2.9 Can I connect real devices on the host computer to SIMH? At the moment, Ethernet is the only supported real device. On 5 Jun 2010, at 02:33, Sampsa Laine wrote: I don't think it has any support for encryption built in per se, AFAIK. As for pointing it at a block device on a UNIX system instead of a file, I think that _might_ work. Never tried it though. Sampsa On 5 Jun 2010, at 02:31, Zane H. Healy wrote: Here is a SIMH question, does it support encrypted disk images, or can it use physical hard drives? Zane On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Sampsa Laine wrote: You can always run SIMH of course of another box... Sampsa

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DECnet Area Router question

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Interesting, I could swear I connected a CD-ROM drive to it 7+ years ago. Did I mention it's been a long time since I've used SIMH, and I've only used if for the PDP-10 and PDP-11 emulators. Zane On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Sampsa Laine wrote: Actually, from the SIMH FAQ (http://simh.trailing-edge.com/pdf/simh_faq.pdf): 2.9 Can I connect real devices on the host computer to SIMH? At the moment, Ethernet is the only supported real device. On 5 Jun 2010, at 02:33, Sampsa Laine wrote: I don't think it has any support for encryption built in per se, AFAIK. As for pointing it at a block device on a UNIX system instead of a file, I think that _might_ work. Never tried it though. Sampsa On 5 Jun 2010, at 02:31, Zane H. Healy wrote: Here is a SIMH question, does it support encrypted disk images, or can it use physical hard drives? Zane On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Sampsa Laine wrote: You can always run SIMH of course of another box... Sampsa

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DECnet Area Router question

by sampsa＠mac.com

Actually, from the SIMH FAQ (http://simh.trailing-edge.com/pdf/simh_faq.pdf): 2.9 Can I connect real devices on the host computer to SIMH? At the moment, Ethernet is the only supported real device. On 5 Jun 2010, at 02:33, Sampsa Laine wrote: I don't think it has any support for encryption built in per se, AFAIK. As for pointing it at a block device on a UNIX system instead of a file, I think that _might_ work. Never tried it though. Sampsa On 5 Jun 2010, at 02:31, Zane H. Healy wrote: Here is a SIMH question, does it support encrypted disk images, or can it use physical hard drives? Zane On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Sampsa Laine wrote: You can always run SIMH of course of another box... Sampsa

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by sampsa＠mac.com

I don't think it has any support for encryption built in per se, AFAIK. As for pointing it at a block device on a UNIX system instead of a file, I think that _might_ work. Never tried it though. Sampsa On 5 Jun 2010, at 02:31, Zane H. Healy wrote: Here is a SIMH question, does it support encrypted disk images, or can it use physical hard drives? Zane On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Sampsa Laine wrote: You can always run SIMH of course of another box... Sampsa

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DECnet Area Router question

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Here is a SIMH question, does it support encrypted disk images, or can it use physical hard drives? Zane On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Sampsa Laine wrote: You can always run SIMH of course of another box... Sampsa

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DECnet Area Router question

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Mark Wickens wrote: My power consumption page might help a bit: http://lakesdev.blogspot.com/2008/09/power-consumption-of-computers-and.html The VAXstation 4000/VLC takes the lowest power but at about 6 VUPS it is quite slow. The 4000/60 and 4000/90 (BUBBLE) take about 100 Watts, which is twice as much, but are *so* much more usable. In terms of alpha, the lowest power I've found so far is the Alphaserver 300 4/266 (TIGER) which clocks at about 100 watts. The Alphaserver 1000A runs at about 180 watts which is pretty good given the expansion possibilities (it has a BA356 8 drive enclosure built in). I'm currently running a BUBBLE and TIGER 24/7 which is a VAX and Alpha node for 200 watts total. Mark. My VAXstation 4000/VLC has a dead power supply. Plus the BA353 I was using it on it has a dead powersupply. Those two bits originally made up PDXVAX. The current PDXVAX hardware is a VAXstation 4000/60 and a BA350 (with 1 2GB drive). My VAXstation 4000/90 has issues, but I forget what. MONK is currently a XP1000 with three SCSI buses. The Narrow SCSI drives a TLZ06, the FWD-SCSI drives a DLT7000 drive, and then the U2W-SCSI has 2 JBOD boxes with 3 36GB 10k drives each. I'm thinking something like an AlphaStation 200 4/233 or even DEC 3000/133 with a BA350 and 2-3 4GB drives. That would definitely be a bit more affordable power wise than MONK and PDXVAX combined. In fact less than 10 years ago, that was the hardware MONK was running on. Oh, and yes, I have a preference for external HD's. I have a lot of 4GB SBB's for BA350's and a lot of SCA SCSI HD's, but very few drives I can use internally without opening up SBB's. Zane

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DECnet Area Router question

by bob＠jfcl.com

That said, I don't know if there might be some magic trick to get an Alpha to do area routing anyway, even though it's not supported... It "just works" - CHARON is an AXP, and it does DECnet area routing just fine. Ignore the documentation that says you can't do it, set your executor type to 'AREA' and that's all you need. Bob

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New Digital Unix node TIGER on HECnet

by davidson＠declab.net

Johnny, I think I would rather have P/OS on the beast. The terminal service and memory management is so much better. I was working in the RT-11 group when RT-11 on the PRO first shipped and the 2 biggest complaints we heard were that terminal emulation was not as nice as P/OS and DECnet is such a hog that the XM monitor should be reworked to accomodate it! For all the complaints about P/OS it did just fine - if you went with the patch to side-step the menu system. What I would rather have seen (and they did work on it at some level) was RSTS/E on the PRO. That would have been GREAT! -Steve Steve Davidson wrote: I have an ULTRIX kit, but no license. I also have Digital UNIX but again no license. I do not have DECnet for either - sorry. Ah. Too bad. The kits I have too. And license (well, for Ultrix atleast). But no kit for DECnet. I am working on getting a PRO-380 (RT-11) w/DECnet to talk to HECnet. The DECNA has died a horrible death but the com port may be a possibility. Wish I had a DECNA. By PRO-380 is connected to HECnet using the comm port, but that machine is running P/OS. (BEA::) Johnny -Steve Mark Wickens wrote: Folks I've just finished configuring my Alphaserver 300 4/266 running Digital Unix 4.0G to be on HECnet via DECNET/OSI basic configuration. I don't know whether there are other Digital Unix systems out there! The new node is 1.258, TIGER, requiring a node list update to find. Next step is to install the Mailbus 400 SMTP Gateway... Nice! Does anyone have DECnet for Ultrix around? I have Ultrix 4.5 here, but no DECnet... :-) Known OSes on HECnet: RSX VMS P/OS TOPS-20 RSTS/E OSF/1 Linux Windows Missing (as far as I know): Ultrix TOPS-10 (could it even connect to DECnet?) RT-11 RTS/8 (doubtful if possible, supposedly only supported phase II) (MAC) (SUN/OS) (Genera) Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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New Digital Unix node TIGER on HECnet

by bqt＠softjar.se

Steve Davidson wrote: I have an ULTRIX kit, but no license. I also have Digital UNIX but again no license. I do not have DECnet for either - sorry. Ah. Too bad. The kits I have too. And license (well, for Ultrix atleast). But no kit for DECnet. I am working on getting a PRO-380 (RT-11) w/DECnet to talk to HECnet. The DECNA has died a horrible death but the com port may be a possibility. Wish I had a DECNA. By PRO-380 is connected to HECnet using the comm port, but that machine is running P/OS. (BEA::) Johnny -Steve Mark Wickens wrote: Folks I've just finished configuring my Alphaserver 300 4/266 running Digital Unix 4.0G to be on HECnet via DECNET/OSI basic configuration. I don't know whether there are other Digital Unix systems out there! The new node is 1.258, TIGER, requiring a node list update to find. Next step is to install the Mailbus 400 SMTP Gateway... Nice! Does anyone have DECnet for Ultrix around? I have Ultrix 4.5 here, but no DECnet... :-) Known OSes on HECnet: RSX VMS P/OS TOPS-20 RSTS/E OSF/1 Linux Windows Missing (as far as I know): Ultrix TOPS-10 (could it even connect to DECnet?) RT-11 RTS/8 (doubtful if possible, supposedly only supported phase II) (MAC) (SUN/OS) (Genera) Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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New Digital Unix node TIGER on HECnet

by davidson＠declab.net

I have an ULTRIX kit, but no license. I also have Digital UNIX but again no license. I do not have DECnet for either - sorry. I am working on getting a PRO-380 (RT-11) w/DECnet to talk to HECnet. The DECNA has died a horrible death but the com port may be a possibility. -Steve Mark Wickens wrote: Folks I've just finished configuring my Alphaserver 300 4/266 running Digital Unix 4.0G to be on HECnet via DECNET/OSI basic configuration. I don't know whether there are other Digital Unix systems out there! The new node is 1.258, TIGER, requiring a node list update to find. Next step is to install the Mailbus 400 SMTP Gateway... Nice! Does anyone have DECnet for Ultrix around? I have Ultrix 4.5 here, but no DECnet... :-) Known OSes on HECnet: RSX VMS P/OS TOPS-20 RSTS/E OSF/1 Linux Windows Missing (as far as I know): Ultrix TOPS-10 (could it even connect to DECnet?) RT-11 RTS/8 (doubtful if possible, supposedly only supported phase II) (MAC) (SUN/OS) (Genera) Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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