- HECnet - lists @ Update

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2015-01-29 23:59, Sampsa Laine wrote: So I'm trying this: SOLAR$ set file/enter="decnet.dir" sys$specific:[000000]decnet.dir %SET-F-ENTERR, error entering SYS$SPECIFIC:[000000]DECNET.DIR;2 as "decnet.dir" -RMS-F-FNM, error in file name How do I make a link from SYS$SPECIFIC:[DECNET} to [.DECNET}? I don't know enough details on exactly what you are doing to give a full answer, but I do know this much: Directories *must* have version ;1. It is absolutely not cool to try and have one with version ;2 I would guess from the above that there already exists a SYS$SPECIFIC:[DECNET] Johnny On 30 Jan 2015, at 00:57, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: Hans Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> writes: why wouldn't =E2=80=8E it work for directories? For this action it makes no= difference. Clustering depends on it! ;) -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity. -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes: Sorry, haven't read that, my bad - I did spend a good half hour googling = symlinks on VMS before asking here though... Anyway,=20 The source is DKA0:[SYS0.DECNET] which I would like to appear as = DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.APACHE.HTDOCS.DECNET] OK... You said "the source" is DKA0:[SYS0.DECNET] Try: $ SET FILE/ENTER=DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.APACHE.HTDOCS]DECNET.DIR;1 DKA0:[SYS0]DECNET.DIR;1 -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by sampsa＠mac.com

Sorry, haven't read that, my bad - I did spend a good half hour googling symlinks on VMS before asking here though... Anyway, The source is DKA0:[SYS0.DECNET] which I would like to appear as DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.APACHE.HTDOCS.DECNET] sampsa On 30 Jan 2015, at 01:12, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes: What's the problem with that? I'm trying to share some files over both FAL and HTTP, thought a symlink = would be the easiest way to do it. Do you know the answer or? The problem is that I don't know what SYS$SPECIFIC nor what APACHE$ROOT are! There's a little DCL command called '$ SHOW LOGICAL' which would help here. And, FWIW, all of this has been well explained in the "OpenVMS File System Internals" book. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes: What's the problem with that? I'm trying to share some files over both FAL and HTTP, thought a symlink = would be the easiest way to do it. Do you know the answer or? The problem is that I don't know what SYS$SPECIFIC nor what APACHE$ROOT are! There's a little DCL command called '$ SHOW LOGICAL' which would help here. And, FWIW, all of this has been well explained in the "OpenVMS File System Internals" book. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by sampsa＠mac.com

What's the problem with that? I'm trying to share some files over both FAL and HTTP, thought a symlink would be the easiest way to do it. Do you know the answer or? sampsa On 30 Jan 2015, at 01:07, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes: APACHE$COMMON:[HTDOCS.DECNET] :rolleyes: :shakehead: -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes: APACHE$COMMON:[HTDOCS.DECNET] :rolleyes: :shakehead: -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by sampsa＠mac.com

APACHE$COMMON:[HTDOCS.DECNET] On 30 Jan 2015, at 01:02, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes: So I'm trying this: SOLAR$ set file/enter=3D"decnet.dir" sys$specific:[000000]decnet.dir %SET-F-ENTERR, error entering SYS$SPECIFIC:[000000]DECNET.DIR;2 as = "decnet.dir" -RMS-F-FNM, error in file name How do I make a link from SYS$SPECIFIC:[DECNET} to [.DECNET}? What w/should be the full file specification for the alias? -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes: So I'm trying this: SOLAR$ set file/enter=3D"decnet.dir" sys$specific:[000000]decnet.dir %SET-F-ENTERR, error entering SYS$SPECIFIC:[000000]DECNET.DIR;2 as = "decnet.dir" -RMS-F-FNM, error in file name How do I make a link from SYS$SPECIFIC:[DECNET} to [.DECNET}? What w/should be the full file specification for the alias? -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes: OK, But I can't get that to work for directories..? Perhaps, if you'd post your command(s) and any error(s) you receive, you might get your cause furthered. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by sampsa＠mac.com

So I'm trying this: SOLAR$ set file/enter="decnet.dir" sys$specific:[000000]decnet.dir %SET-F-ENTERR, error entering SYS$SPECIFIC:[000000]DECNET.DIR;2 as "decnet.dir" -RMS-F-FNM, error in file name How do I make a link from SYS$SPECIFIC:[DECNET} to [.DECNET}? On 30 Jan 2015, at 00:57, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: Hans Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> writes: why wouldn't =E2=80=8E it work for directories? For this action it makes no= difference. Clustering depends on it! ;) -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Hans Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> writes: why wouldn't =E2=80=8E it work for directories? For this action it makes no= difference. Clustering depends on it! ;) -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

why wouldn't it work for directories? For this action it makes no difference. Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone. Origineel bericht Van: Sampsa Laine Verzonden: donderdag 29 januari 2015 23:43 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP? I think that only works for files, not directories. I KNOW i've made a link between directories on VMS, I just can't remember the command and there's nothing in HELP.. Or Google. sampsa On 30 Jan 2015, at 00:08, Hans Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote: On ODS-2 you'd make this work with set file/enter. That is if my memory isn't pulling my leg again ;( Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone. Origineel bericht Van: Sampsa Laine Verzonden: donderdag 29 januari 2015 22:25 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: [HECnet] Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP? I've been looking everywhere for some help on how to create a link (symbolic or hardlink, I'm good with either) to a directory in another. Basically, I have a bunch of files I want to share using both FAL and HTTP (Apache). So let's say I have the source dir, DKA0:[FOOBAR]SOURCE.DIR and I want to make a link of that directory to APACHE$ROOT:[HTDOCS] so that APACHE$ROOT:[HTDOCS.SOURCE] and DKA0:[FOOBAR.SOURCE] are the same thing? Sampsa PS: I'm obviously on an ODS-5 system.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by sampsa＠mac.com

OK, But I can't get that to work for directories..? Sampsa On 30 Jan 2015, at 00:53, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes: I think that only works for files, not directories. I KNOW i've made a link between directories on VMS, I just can't = remember the command and there's nothing in HELP.. Or Google. BS! Everything exists in HELP. $ HELP SET FILE/ENTER -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes: I think that only works for files, not directories. I KNOW i've made a link between directories on VMS, I just can't = remember the command and there's nothing in HELP.. Or Google. BS! Everything exists in HELP. $ HELP SET FILE/ENTER -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Hans Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> writes: On ODS-2 you'd make this work with set file/enter. That is if my memory isn't pulling my leg again ;( Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone. =A0 Origineel bericht =A0 Van: Sampsa Laine Verzonden: donderdag 29 januari 2015 22:25 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: [HECnet] Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP? I've been looking everywhere for some help on how to create a link (symboli= c or hardlink, I'm good with either) to a directory in another. Basically, I have a bunch of files I want to share using both FAL and HTTP = (Apache). So let's say I have the source dir, DKA0:[FOOBAR]SOURCE.DIR and I want to m= ake a link of that directory to APACHE$ROOT:[HTDOCS] so that APACHE$ROOT:[H= TDOCS.SOURCE] and DKA0:[FOOBAR.SOURCE] are the same thing? Sampsa PS: I'm obviously on an ODS-5 system. If APACHE$ROOT is a rooted logical with DKA0: as its disk device designation, you can use a long standing VMS file system feature: SET FILE/ENTER. There's also the symlink feature which you use via SET FILE/SYMLINK. $ HELP abounds for both commands. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by sampsa＠mac.com

I think that only works for files, not directories. I KNOW i've made a link between directories on VMS, I just can't remember the command and there's nothing in HELP.. Or Google. sampsa On 30 Jan 2015, at 00:08, Hans Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote: On ODS-2 you'd make this work with set file/enter. That is if my memory isn't pulling my leg again ;( Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone. Origineel bericht Van: Sampsa Laine Verzonden: donderdag 29 januari 2015 22:25 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: [HECnet] Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP? I've been looking everywhere for some help on how to create a link (symbolic or hardlink, I'm good with either) to a directory in another. Basically, I have a bunch of files I want to share using both FAL and HTTP (Apache). So let's say I have the source dir, DKA0:[FOOBAR]SOURCE.DIR and I want to make a link of that directory to APACHE$ROOT:[HTDOCS] so that APACHE$ROOT:[HTDOCS.SOURCE] and DKA0:[FOOBAR.SOURCE] are the same thing? Sampsa PS: I'm obviously on an ODS-5 system.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

On ODS-2 you'd make this work with set file/enter. That is if my memory isn't pulling my leg again ;( Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone. Origineel bericht Van: Sampsa Laine Verzonden: donderdag 29 januari 2015 22:25 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: [HECnet] Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP? I've been looking everywhere for some help on how to create a link (symbolic or hardlink, I'm good with either) to a directory in another. Basically, I have a bunch of files I want to share using both FAL and HTTP (Apache). So let's say I have the source dir, DKA0:[FOOBAR]SOURCE.DIR and I want to make a link of that directory to APACHE$ROOT:[HTDOCS] so that APACHE$ROOT:[HTDOCS.SOURCE] and DKA0:[FOOBAR.SOURCE] are the same thing? Sampsa PS: I'm obviously on an ODS-5 system.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Hard and soft links in VMS 8,3 AXP?

by sampsa＠mac.com

I've been looking everywhere for some help on how to create a link (symbolic or hardlink, I'm good with either) to a directory in another. Basically, I have a bunch of files I want to share using both FAL and HTTP (Apache). So let's say I have the source dir, DKA0:[FOOBAR]SOURCE.DIR and I want to make a link of that directory to APACHE$ROOT:[HTDOCS] so that APACHE$ROOT:[HTDOCS.SOURCE] and DKA0:[FOOBAR.SOURCE] are the same thing? Sampsa PS: I'm obviously on an ODS-5 system.

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Bored? Good news - 16-bit DOS door games now available on CHIMPY::

by sampsa＠mac.com

Being a retard, I only tested the scripts under my own account - they were of course totally broken under a captive account. It should work now, for those of you are interested (Tradewars 2002 really is quite a good game, and the backgammon does rock). sampsa On 26 Jan 2015, at 22:54, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Oh, forgot to mention, log in as "16BIT" to launch these. sampsa On 26 Jan 2015, at 22:51, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: CHIMPY:: has just signed up with BBS Interlink to provide retro door games for anyone, well, connecting to CHIMPY. The games run on a shared server so you might encounter up to dozens of players online at once, so not exactly an MMO portal but good fun to be had still (especially Global Backgammon, still my favourite backgammon game for over 20 years). Anyway, the games on offer are: Global War (risk clone) Global Backgammon LORD LORD 2 Planets: TEOS Operation: Overkill 2 Trade Wars 2002 Pimp Wars Lunatix BBS Crash Enjoy. sampsa

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

[DECtec] [HECnet] VAXstation 4000/VLC clock battery?

by macro＠linux-mips.org

On Sat, 24 Jan 2015, Mark Wickens wrote: Yes DS12887A is the right part number. Or search online how to cut the top off and add your own battery. These are generally available on eBay from China as well. NB the original is actually a DS1287A rather than a DS12887A. While being pin compatible they are not identical and the difference between the two is the latter has 128 bytes of internal addressable locations while the former only has 64 bytes, and consequently ignores the value of bit #6 written to the address register. So hope that no clever software relies on that bit being ignored before assuming a DS12887A can replace a DS1287A! Maciej -- DECtec mailing list http://dectec.info To unsubscribe from this list see page at: http://dectec.info/mailman/listinfo/dectec_dectec.info

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Number of nodes online a bit low?

by jsteve＠superglobalmegacorp.com

Come to Asia, where you can live the dream of both high volage, *and* crap wiring. Not to mention a mixture of fuses, and breakers. And it seems every time I pop open anything with a fuse, it's rated for something insanely high like 13A @ 220V for a simple fan.. But at least in HK we don't have the 50/60Hz split of Japan. -----Original Message----- From: Hans Vlems [mailto:hvlems at zonnet.nl] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 6:19 PM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Number of nodes online a bit low? You can touch a live wire here and provided it's just one hand and your feet aren't in salty water nothing much will happen. Higher frequencies will pass your skin more readily. I'd rather touch 230V/50Hz than 80V/1000Hz. Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone. Origineel bericht Van: Johnny Billquist Verzonden: maandag 26 januari 2015 17:49 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Number of nodes online a bit low? On 2015-01-26 17:40, John Wilson wrote: From: Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> This is Europe, remember... Normal mains are 230V, and 3-phase are 410V phase to phase. All the DEC equipment around here are designed to run on that stuff. Sure ... I remember reading the back plate on a dryer at a laundromat once (in I forget which country) and suddenly not wanting to touch it any more. I just have trouble getting used to the fact that although you *already* run most things at what Americans would consider double voltage, you *still* double the voltage for the big toys (things which we grudgingly whip out the 230 VAC for). But then again, once it's lethal, I suppose it doesn't matter how lethal. And copper costs more than insulation so being able to use wimpier wire for the same wattage is good design. Less loss too. Plus, this is stuff you pretty much never unplug/replug, so your fingers are almost never near the live prongs. Still ... around here, it's hard to find wire that's insulated for more than 300V. Yeah... That "lethal" aspect have never been my issue. 110V or 230V. Who cares? If it comes to the wrong place, either will kill me. And just through two fingers on the same hand, they both just annoy the hell out of me, and I swear loudly for a few minutes... I am much more nervous about the (to my view) really crappy and scary plugs you use in the US. They actually have a fair chance of actually exposing me to contact... You really cannot touch the prongs when they have power on plugs around here... Johnny

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Bored? Good news - 16-bit DOS door games now available on CHIMPY::

by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

CHIMPY:: has just signed up with BBS Interlink to provide retro door games for anyone, well, connecting to CHIMPY. The games run on a shared server so you might encounter up to dozens of players online at once, so not exactly an MMO portal but good fun to be had still (especially Global Backgammon, still my favourite backgammon game for over 20 years). Just as a reminder, BITXT1 hosts DECWAR, and it should be accessible from anywhere in HECNET. ;)

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Bored? Good news - 16-bit DOS door games now available on CHIMPY::

by sampsa＠mac.com

Oh, forgot to mention, log in as "16BIT" to launch these. sampsa On 26 Jan 2015, at 22:51, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: CHIMPY:: has just signed up with BBS Interlink to provide retro door games for anyone, well, connecting to CHIMPY. The games run on a shared server so you might encounter up to dozens of players online at once, so not exactly an MMO portal but good fun to be had still (especially Global Backgammon, still my favourite backgammon game for over 20 years). Anyway, the games on offer are: Global War (risk clone) Global Backgammon LORD LORD 2 Planets: TEOS Operation: Overkill 2 Trade Wars 2002 Pimp Wars Lunatix BBS Crash Enjoy. sampsa

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

Bored? Good news - 16-bit DOS door games now available on CHIMPY::

by sampsa＠mac.com

CHIMPY:: has just signed up with BBS Interlink to provide retro door games for anyone, well, connecting to CHIMPY. The games run on a shared server so you might encounter up to dozens of players online at once, so not exactly an MMO portal but good fun to be had still (especially Global Backgammon, still my favourite backgammon game for over 20 years). Anyway, the games on offer are: Global War (risk clone) Global Backgammon LORD LORD 2 Planets: TEOS Operation: Overkill 2 Trade Wars 2002 Pimp Wars Lunatix BBS Crash Enjoy. sampsa

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

DCL Question - weird input problme

by sampsa＠mac.com

Ah it has to be immediately before the command, I did it a few lines before. Cheers - works fine now. sampsa On 26 Jan 2015, at 21:53, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm <Mark at infocomm.com> wrote: To get the behavior you are expecting when invoked from a command file, the command immediately preceding the python invitation should be: $ define/user sys$input sys$command This is from 20+ year old memory, but that should be close.... - Mark On Jan 26, 2015 2:47 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2015-01-26 20:41, Sampsa Laine wrote: > So I've got this Python script which reads commands from stdin, basically in the form of <cmd> + <cr(lf?> > > When I run it standalone, it works fine, but when invoked from a COM file it acts as if stdin is nothing but CRLF's.. > > Any ideas? Are you sure it is not EOF? When run from a command file, programs will get their input from the command file, up to the next line starting with a dollar sign, which would be the next DCL command. So I would assume you'd get an EOF in your python program at that point. Johnny

10 years, 5 months

1
0
0 0

2025

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

HECnet