On 28.6.2010 12:02, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Hi.
H Vlems wrote:
DECnet phase IV nodes are backwards compatible with phase III.
Yes. But the question here was if phase V will interoperate with phase
III. I don't know the answer to that one, but on the other hand, I don't
think anyone around is running phase III anyway.
There are no restrictions in functionality between phase IV nodes and
phase
V as seen by the unpriviledged user. Area routing may be an issue on
Alpha,
and of course ncl is more of a pain to remember than ncp ;-)
True, as far as that goes.
However, I am not sure that a phase V node can operate as a phase IV
area router.
A DECnet-plus node can operate as an area router both in a Phase IV network and in a Phase V network.
To be familiar with NCL you need to build a "mindset" where you have a clear view of all the manageable entities in Phase V. Then you need to understand the syntax used in NCL. After that it is quite straightforward.
As NCL is such a powerful management language, it was chosen to be the management language of the DECss7 product as well.
Someone else pointed out that although DEC claimed that alphas could not
be area routers, that information is incorrect, and you can just tell an
Alpha VMS phase IV node to be an area router, if you want to.
However, DECnet+ is phase V, and all bets are off. :-)
There was some versions of DECnet-plus for Alpha which didn't support area routing, but modern versions do.
And yes, not only are the NCL commands more difficult to remember
(atleast for me), the node name management is way more difficult as
well. Do anyone know how you copy a nodename database from another
machine with DECnet+?
If the DECdns is not used, the local namespace (=nodename database) from one node can be exported to a file and the file transferred to another node and then the namespace is imported with decnet_register, which is the utility used for managing the local namespace.
Two questions:
1-May I use area 44?
Sure.
May I use the area 16?
2-Is there a short guide to set up DECnet over IP to connect to HECnet?
Not that I know of. Maybe Mark Wickens have something on hecnet.eu?
My page (http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/hecnet.html) only have information
about the bridge.
Johnny
Regards,
Kari
Hans
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Verzonden: maandag, juni 2010 0:04
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Attaching to hecnet
DECnet-Plus isn't
able to connect, or at least reliably connect to all OS's that can
potentially be on HECnet. I forget what all OS's I was having issues
with, I know one was RSTS/E v10.1, but I want to say it also included
VAX/VMS. Once I *upgraded* my Alpha running OpenVMS to DECnet Phase IV,
all these issues went away. These were things as simple as SET HOST.
It's probably that DECnet-Plus (Phase V) cannot speak with DECnet
Phase III (such as on RSTS/E and TOPS-10/20). That's my guess anyway.
Phase V should be able to communicate with VAX/VMS since that's Phase
IV, which is the gold standard of DECnet, IMHO.
--Marc
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.
Hi.
H Vlems wrote:
DECnet phase IV nodes are backwards compatible with phase III.
Yes. But the question here was if phase V will interoperate with phase III. I don't know the answer to that one, but on the other hand, I don't think anyone around is running phase III anyway.
There are no restrictions in functionality between phase IV nodes and phase
V as seen by the unpriviledged user. Area routing may be an issue on Alpha,
and of course ncl is more of a pain to remember than ncp ;-)
True, as far as that goes.
However, I am not sure that a phase V node can operate as a phase IV area router.
Someone else pointed out that although DEC claimed that alphas could not be area routers, that information is incorrect, and you can just tell an Alpha VMS phase IV node to be an area router, if you want to.
However, DECnet+ is phase V, and all bets are off. :-)
And yes, not only are the NCL commands more difficult to remember (atleast for me), the node name management is way more difficult as well. Do anyone know how you copy a nodename database from another machine with DECnet+?
Two questions:
1-May I use area 44?
Sure.
2-Is there a short guide to set up DECnet over IP to connect to HECnet?
Not that I know of. Maybe Mark Wickens have something on hecnet.eu?
My page (http://www.update.uu.se/~bqt/hecnet.html) only have information about the bridge.
Johnny
Hans
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Verzonden: maandag, juni 2010 0:04
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Attaching to hecnet
DECnet-Plus isn't
able to connect, or at least reliably connect to all OS's that can
potentially be on HECnet. I forget what all OS's I was having issues
with, I know one was RSTS/E v10.1, but I want to say it also included
VAX/VMS. Once I *upgraded* my Alpha running OpenVMS to DECnet Phase IV,
all these issues went away. These were things as simple as SET HOST.
It's probably that DECnet-Plus (Phase V) cannot speak with DECnet Phase III (such as on RSTS/E and TOPS-10/20). That's my guess anyway.
Phase V should be able to communicate with VAX/VMS since that's Phase IV, which is the gold standard of DECnet, IMHO.
--Marc
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08:35:00
DECnet phase IV nodes are backwards compatible with phase III.
There are no restrictions in functionality between phase IV nodes and phase
V as seen by the unpriviledged user. Area routing may be an issue on Alpha,
and of course ncl is more of a pain to remember than ncp ;-)
Two questions:
1-May I use area 44?
2-Is there a short guide to set up DECnet over IP to connect to HECnet?
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens
Marc Chametzky
Verzonden: maandag, juni 2010 0:04
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Attaching to hecnet
DECnet-Plus isn't
able to connect, or at least reliably connect to all OS's that can
potentially be on HECnet. I forget what all OS's I was having issues
with, I know one was RSTS/E v10.1, but I want to say it also included
VAX/VMS. Once I *upgraded* my Alpha running OpenVMS to DECnet Phase IV,
all these issues went away. These were things as simple as SET HOST.
It's probably that DECnet-Plus (Phase V) cannot speak with DECnet Phase
III (such as on RSTS/E and TOPS-10/20). That's my guess anyway.
Phase V should be able to communicate with VAX/VMS since that's Phase
IV, which is the gold standard of DECnet, IMHO.
--Marc
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Marc Chametzky wrote:
DECnet-Plus isn't
able to connect, or at least reliably connect to all OS's that can
potentially be on HECnet. I forget what all OS's I was having issues
with, I know one was RSTS/E v10.1, but I want to say it also included
VAX/VMS. Once I *upgraded* my Alpha running OpenVMS to DECnet Phase IV,
all these issues went away. These were things as simple as SET HOST.
It's probably that DECnet-Plus (Phase V) cannot speak with DECnet Phase III (such as on RSTS/E and TOPS-10/20). That's my guess anyway.
Phase V should be able to communicate with VAX/VMS since that's Phase IV, which is the gold standard of DECnet, IMHO.
TOPS-20 DECnet is phase IV, and I believe that the latest version of DECnet for RSTS/E is also phase IV.
Johnny
DECnet-Plus isn't
able to connect, or at least reliably connect to all OS's that can
potentially be on HECnet. I forget what all OS's I was having issues
with, I know one was RSTS/E v10.1, but I want to say it also included
VAX/VMS. Once I *upgraded* my Alpha running OpenVMS to DECnet Phase IV,
all these issues went away. These were things as simple as SET HOST.
It's probably that DECnet-Plus (Phase V) cannot speak with DECnet Phase III (such as on RSTS/E and TOPS-10/20). That's my guess anyway.
Phase V should be able to communicate with VAX/VMS since that's Phase IV, which is the gold standard of DECnet, IMHO.
--Marc
At 2:03 PM -0700 6/27/10, Johnny Billquist wrote:
DECnet+ over IP: I have no idea if it is doable, but if it is, feel free. HECnet as such is totally connection-agnostic. Anything that works is acceptable. My experience (both from myself, and others) is that DECnet+ is more of an headache than a win, but that's more from an adminitrative point of view. Technically, it works just fine.
I'm uncertain if DECnet+ can act as an area router though, so you might need to have atleast one DECnet node, in order to have your own area.
One quick comment on this based on my own findings. DECnet-Plus isn't able to connect, or at least reliably connect to all OS's that can potentially be on HECnet. I forget what all OS's I was having issues with, I know one was RSTS/E v10.1, but I want to say it also included VAX/VMS. Once I *upgraded* my Alpha running OpenVMS to DECnet Phase IV, all these issues went away. These were things as simple as SET HOST.
Unfortunately, it's been several years, and I don't remember the specifics. Also, I've never had Tru-64 running DECnet as far as I can remember (it's been about 12 years since I ran it).
Zane
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I've got a SIMH VAX with Decnet+ set up somewhere, so I might be up for trying to get the Decnet+-IP-tunnel thingie going.
Sampsa
On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:03, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 27.6.2010 13:44, Mark Wickens wrote:
Hi Guys,
There is some info on http://hecnet.eu but at the moment it is very
targeted to a 'standard' installation. If you end up using a
non-standard installation please let me know what you have to do so I
can add the info to the website.
If you want your own area Johnny is your man - he is busy but will get
round to answering your query.
I'd be interested to know if it's possible to get the bridge working
under tru64 also...
Regards, Mark
.
Well, what is standard and what is not. That is a question of from which point of view you are thinking, isn't it? ;)
To some people the DECnet-plus or Multinet with DECnet-over-IP is standard and to others the Cisco tunneling is standard. To the HECnet community the bridge software is standard.
Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 27.6.2010 13:44, Mark Wickens wrote:
Hi Guys,
There is some info on http://hecnet.eu but at the moment it is very
targeted to a 'standard' installation. If you end up using a
non-standard installation please let me know what you have to do so I
can add the info to the website.
If you want your own area Johnny is your man - he is busy but will get
round to answering your query.
I'd be interested to know if it's possible to get the bridge working
under tru64 also...
Regards, Mark
.
Well, what is standard and what is not. That is a question of from which point of view you are thinking, isn't it? ;)
To some people the DECnet-plus or Multinet with DECnet-over-IP is standard and to others the Cisco tunneling is standard. To the HECnet community the bridge software is standard.
On 27.6.2010 13:44, Mark Wickens wrote:
Hi Guys,
There is some info on http://hecnet.eu but at the moment it is very
targeted to a 'standard' installation. If you end up using a
non-standard installation please let me know what you have to do so I
can add the info to the website.
If you want your own area Johnny is your man - he is busy but will get
round to answering your query.
I'd be interested to know if it's possible to get the bridge working
under tru64 also...
Regards, Mark
.
Well, what is standard and what is not. That is a question of from which point of view you are thinking, isn't it? ;)
To some people the DECnet-plus or Multinet with DECnet-over-IP is standard and to others the Cisco tunneling is standard. To the HECnet community the bridge software is standard.
On 27.6.2010 20:58, Mark Wickens wrote:
Hi Kari,
The installation and IVP completed successfully. Many thanks - I will be
adding some database functionality to hecnet.eu now.
Regards, Mark
.
Hi Mark,
Your welcome!
It is really nice to be of any help.
Regards,
Kari
Your welcome, Hans!
Nice to be of help.
Regards,
Kari
On 27.6.2010 14:51, H Vlems wrote:
Ok, the kit arrived correctly. This is what I did:
1) binary ftp of the .zip file
2) $ UNZIP "-V" of the zip file
3) $ BACK/LIST *.% /SAVE and all save sets proved readable.
Thanks again Kari,
Hans
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Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens
Kari Uusim ki
Verzonden: zondag, juni 2010 12:18
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RDB media for VAX/VMS
Hi guys,
The RDBVMS V7.0.8.3 kit is now available for download on my anonymous
ftp service at my front end system called WEGA.DECHOBBYIST.NET.
This was originally downloaded from Oracle OTN and hasn't been modified
in any way.
Regards,
Kari
On 27.6.2010 12:46, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
Hi Hans,
RDBVMS V4.1 was released in 1992.
The kit I mentioned, RDBV7083, is from 2006. So it is somewhat more
recent. :)
Btw. The last RDBVMS kit which was on SPL's was 6.1 and that was
released in mid-1995. It can be found on the Jul-1995 and Dec-1995 SPL's.
If you want to upgrade from V4.1 to V7.0 you need to do some
conversions. I don't remember which intermediate versions you need, but
it should be described in the Release Notes.
I'll put the RDBV7083 kit on my anonymous ftp service and send a message
when it is ready for download.
Regards,
Kari
On 27.6.2010 12:11, H Vlems wrote:
If that is more recent than V4.1 then I'd appreciate it if you'd let
me know
how to gain access to your ftp server.
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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Kari Uusim ki
Verzonden: zondag, juni 2010 11:08
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RDB media for VAX/VMS
On 27.6.2010 10:45, Mark Wickens wrote:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:06 -0400, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a
VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are
as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a
look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from
2000.
--Marc
Hi Marc,
I pulled the files down last night, but alas they are only for the Alpha
platform. Might anyone else be able to help? I'm not sure whether Rdb
ever appeared on the SPL?
Regards, Mark.
.
Hi Mark,
I do have a kit RDBV7083 for VAX from 2006. I'm not sure if that's the
latest one, but it should run on VAX-VMS V7.3.
If you want to get it, please inform me. I can put it on my anonymous
ftp.
Regards,
Kari
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Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com
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06/27/10
08:35:00
.
.
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Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2966 - datum van uitgifte: 06/27/10
08:35:00
.
Ok, the kit arrived correctly. This is what I did:
1) binary ftp of the .zip file
2) $ UNZIP "-V" of the zip file
3) $ BACK/LIST *.% /SAVE and all save sets proved readable.
Thanks again Kari,
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens
Kari Uusim ki
Verzonden: zondag, juni 2010 12:18
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RDB media for VAX/VMS
Hi guys,
The RDBVMS V7.0.8.3 kit is now available for download on my anonymous
ftp service at my front end system called WEGA.DECHOBBYIST.NET.
This was originally downloaded from Oracle OTN and hasn't been modified
in any way.
Regards,
Kari
On 27.6.2010 12:46, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
Hi Hans,
RDBVMS V4.1 was released in 1992.
The kit I mentioned, RDBV7083, is from 2006. So it is somewhat more
recent. :)
Btw. The last RDBVMS kit which was on SPL's was 6.1 and that was
released in mid-1995. It can be found on the Jul-1995 and Dec-1995 SPL's.
If you want to upgrade from V4.1 to V7.0 you need to do some
conversions. I don't remember which intermediate versions you need, but
it should be described in the Release Notes.
I'll put the RDBV7083 kit on my anonymous ftp service and send a message
when it is ready for download.
Regards,
Kari
On 27.6.2010 12:11, H Vlems wrote:
If that is more recent than V4.1 then I'd appreciate it if you'd let
me know
how to gain access to your ftp server.
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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Kari Uusim ki
Verzonden: zondag, juni 2010 11:08
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RDB media for VAX/VMS
On 27.6.2010 10:45, Mark Wickens wrote:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:06 -0400, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a
VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are
as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a
look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from
2000.
--Marc
Hi Marc,
I pulled the files down last night, but alas they are only for the Alpha
platform. Might anyone else be able to help? I'm not sure whether Rdb
ever appeared on the SPL?
Regards, Mark.
.
Hi Mark,
I do have a kit RDBV7083 for VAX from 2006. I'm not sure if that's the
latest one, but it should run on VAX-VMS V7.3.
If you want to get it, please inform me. I can put it on my anonymous
ftp.
Regards,
Kari
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.
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Thanks Kari for the pointer.
I tried to connect to it from a Windows system and noted that the server is
a VMS host.
So I'm firing up an Alpha do perform the ftp copy. The Alpha sure is hot in
the attic...
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens
Kari Uusim ki
Verzonden: zondag, juni 2010 12:18
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RDB media for VAX/VMS
Hi guys,
The RDBVMS V7.0.8.3 kit is now available for download on my anonymous
ftp service at my front end system called WEGA.DECHOBBYIST.NET.
This was originally downloaded from Oracle OTN and hasn't been modified
in any way.
Regards,
Kari
On 27.6.2010 12:46, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
Hi Hans,
RDBVMS V4.1 was released in 1992.
The kit I mentioned, RDBV7083, is from 2006. So it is somewhat more
recent. :)
Btw. The last RDBVMS kit which was on SPL's was 6.1 and that was
released in mid-1995. It can be found on the Jul-1995 and Dec-1995 SPL's.
If you want to upgrade from V4.1 to V7.0 you need to do some
conversions. I don't remember which intermediate versions you need, but
it should be described in the Release Notes.
I'll put the RDBV7083 kit on my anonymous ftp service and send a message
when it is ready for download.
Regards,
Kari
On 27.6.2010 12:11, H Vlems wrote:
If that is more recent than V4.1 then I'd appreciate it if you'd let
me know
how to gain access to your ftp server.
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens
Kari Uusim ki
Verzonden: zondag, juni 2010 11:08
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RDB media for VAX/VMS
On 27.6.2010 10:45, Mark Wickens wrote:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:06 -0400, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a
VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are
as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a
look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from
2000.
--Marc
Hi Marc,
I pulled the files down last night, but alas they are only for the Alpha
platform. Might anyone else be able to help? I'm not sure whether Rdb
ever appeared on the SPL?
Regards, Mark.
.
Hi Mark,
I do have a kit RDBV7083 for VAX from 2006. I'm not sure if that's the
latest one, but it should run on VAX-VMS V7.3.
If you want to get it, please inform me. I can put it on my anonymous
ftp.
Regards,
Kari
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.
.
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08:35:00
Hello Kari,
There's no need to convert anything since I'd be doing a new installation.
I have only one VAX SPL kit, december 1997, and you're right: it doesn't
include RDB.
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens
Kari Uusim ki
Verzonden: zondag, juni 2010 11:47
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RDB media for VAX/VMS
Hi Hans,
RDBVMS V4.1 was released in 1992.
The kit I mentioned, RDBV7083, is from 2006. So it is somewhat more
recent. :)
Btw. The last RDBVMS kit which was on SPL's was 6.1 and that was
released in mid-1995. It can be found on the Jul-1995 and Dec-1995 SPL's.
If you want to upgrade from V4.1 to V7.0 you need to do some
conversions. I don't remember which intermediate versions you need, but
it should be described in the Release Notes.
I'll put the RDBV7083 kit on my anonymous ftp service and send a message
when it is ready for download.
Regards,
Kari
On 27.6.2010 12:11, H Vlems wrote:
If that is more recent than V4.1 then I'd appreciate it if you'd let me
know
how to gain access to your ftp server.
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens
Kari Uusim ki
Verzonden: zondag, juni 2010 11:08
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RDB media for VAX/VMS
On 27.6.2010 10:45, Mark Wickens wrote:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:06 -0400, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are
as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a
look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from 2000.
--Marc
Hi Marc,
I pulled the files down last night, but alas they are only for the Alpha
platform. Might anyone else be able to help? I'm not sure whether Rdb
ever appeared on the SPL?
Regards, Mark.
.
Hi Mark,
I do have a kit RDBV7083 for VAX from 2006. I'm not sure if that's the
latest one, but it should run on VAX-VMS V7.3.
If you want to get it, please inform me. I can put it on my anonymous ftp.
Regards,
Kari
Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht.
Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com
Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2963 - datum van uitgifte:
06/27/10
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.
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Hi Guys,
There is some info on http://hecnet.eu but at the moment it is very
targeted to a 'standard' installation. If you end up using a
non-standard installation please let me know what you have to do so I
can add the info to the website.
If you want your own area Johnny is your man - he is busy but will get
round to answering your query.
I'd be interested to know if it's possible to get the bridge working
under tru64 also...
Regards, Mark
Hi guys,
The RDBVMS V7.0.8.3 kit is now available for download on my anonymous ftp service at my front end system called WEGA.DECHOBBYIST.NET.
This was originally downloaded from Oracle OTN and hasn't been modified in any way.
Regards,
Kari
On 27.6.2010 12:46, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
Hi Hans,
RDBVMS V4.1 was released in 1992.
The kit I mentioned, RDBV7083, is from 2006. So it is somewhat more
recent. :)
Btw. The last RDBVMS kit which was on SPL's was 6.1 and that was
released in mid-1995. It can be found on the Jul-1995 and Dec-1995 SPL's.
If you want to upgrade from V4.1 to V7.0 you need to do some
conversions. I don't remember which intermediate versions you need, but
it should be described in the Release Notes.
I'll put the RDBV7083 kit on my anonymous ftp service and send a message
when it is ready for download.
Regards,
Kari
On 27.6.2010 12:11, H Vlems wrote:
If that is more recent than V4.1 then I'd appreciate it if you'd let
me know
how to gain access to your ftp server.
Hans
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RDB media for VAX/VMS
On 27.6.2010 10:45, Mark Wickens wrote:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:06 -0400, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a
VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are
as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a
look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from
2000.
--Marc
Hi Marc,
I pulled the files down last night, but alas they are only for the Alpha
platform. Might anyone else be able to help? I'm not sure whether Rdb
ever appeared on the SPL?
Regards, Mark.
.
Hi Mark,
I do have a kit RDBV7083 for VAX from 2006. I'm not sure if that's the
latest one, but it should run on VAX-VMS V7.3.
If you want to get it, please inform me. I can put it on my anonymous
ftp.
Regards,
Kari
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Hi,
I also would like to connect my systems to HECnet and need some more details on which node to connect to. I can use DECnet-Plus with DECnet-over-IP (preferably) or Cisco tunneling.
I tried to ask the details from Johnny, but I didn't get an answer yet.
Regards,
Kari
On 27.6.2010 12:22, H Vlems wrote:
Hello, I've been reading HECnet mail for some time now and I want to connect
my systems too. I have a few questions though.
- Is it possible to run the bridge software on a VMS system?
- If not, would a Tru64 system do?
- What tools do I need to build the bridge software (from what I've learned
I guess a C compiler would do).
- I'm fairly used to my nodenumbers and nodenames. Given the amount of
systems (>30) could I have an area for my systems to maintain the node
addresses?
- Does the bridge software transmit LAT as well?
Regards,
Hans Vlems
PS
For a list of my systems : http://home.zonnet.nl/hvlems
.
Hi Hans,
RDBVMS V4.1 was released in 1992.
The kit I mentioned, RDBV7083, is from 2006. So it is somewhat more recent. :)
Btw. The last RDBVMS kit which was on SPL's was 6.1 and that was released in mid-1995. It can be found on the Jul-1995 and Dec-1995 SPL's.
If you want to upgrade from V4.1 to V7.0 you need to do some conversions. I don't remember which intermediate versions you need, but it should be described in the Release Notes.
I'll put the RDBV7083 kit on my anonymous ftp service and send a message when it is ready for download.
Regards,
Kari
On 27.6.2010 12:11, H Vlems wrote:
If that is more recent than V4.1 then I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know
how to gain access to your ftp server.
Hans
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Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RDB media for VAX/VMS
On 27.6.2010 10:45, Mark Wickens wrote:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:06 -0400, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are
as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a
look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from 2000.
--Marc
Hi Marc,
I pulled the files down last night, but alas they are only for the Alpha
platform. Might anyone else be able to help? I'm not sure whether Rdb
ever appeared on the SPL?
Regards, Mark.
.
Hi Mark,
I do have a kit RDBV7083 for VAX from 2006. I'm not sure if that's the
latest one, but it should run on VAX-VMS V7.3.
If you want to get it, please inform me. I can put it on my anonymous ftp.
Regards,
Kari
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.
Hello, I've been reading HECnet mail for some time now and I want to connect
my systems too. I have a few questions though.
- Is it possible to run the bridge software on a VMS system?
- If not, would a Tru64 system do?
- What tools do I need to build the bridge software (from what I've learned
I guess a C compiler would do).
- I'm fairly used to my nodenumbers and nodenames. Given the amount of
systems (>30) could I have an area for my systems to maintain the node
addresses?
- Does the bridge software transmit LAT as well?
Regards,
Hans Vlems
PS
For a list of my systems : http://home.zonnet.nl/hvlems
If that is more recent than V4.1 then I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know
how to gain access to your ftp server.
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens
Kari Uusim ki
Verzonden: zondag, juni 2010 11:08
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RDB media for VAX/VMS
On 27.6.2010 10:45, Mark Wickens wrote:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:06 -0400, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are
as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a
look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from 2000.
--Marc
Hi Marc,
I pulled the files down last night, but alas they are only for the Alpha
platform. Might anyone else be able to help? I'm not sure whether Rdb
ever appeared on the SPL?
Regards, Mark.
.
Hi Mark,
I do have a kit RDBV7083 for VAX from 2006. I'm not sure if that's the
latest one, but it should run on VAX-VMS V7.3.
If you want to get it, please inform me. I can put it on my anonymous ftp.
Regards,
Kari
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I have RDBVMS V4.1 on a cd.
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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Mark Wickens
Verzonden: zondag, juni 2010 9:46
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RDB media for VAX/VMS
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:06 -0400, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are
as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a
look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from 2000.
--Marc
Hi Marc,
I pulled the files down last night, but alas they are only for the Alpha
platform. Might anyone else be able to help? I'm not sure whether Rdb
ever appeared on the SPL?
Regards, Mark.
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On 27.6.2010 10:45, Mark Wickens wrote:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:06 -0400, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are
as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a
look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from 2000.
--Marc
Hi Marc,
I pulled the files down last night, but alas they are only for the Alpha
platform. Might anyone else be able to help? I'm not sure whether Rdb
ever appeared on the SPL?
Regards, Mark.
.
Hi Mark,
I do have a kit RDBV7083 for VAX from 2006. I'm not sure if that's the latest one, but it should run on VAX-VMS V7.3.
If you want to get it, please inform me. I can put it on my anonymous ftp.
Regards,
Kari
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:06 -0400, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are
as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a
look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from 2000.
--Marc
Hi Marc,
I pulled the files down last night, but alas they are only for the Alpha
platform. Might anyone else be able to help? I'm not sure whether Rdb
ever appeared on the SPL?
Regards, Mark.
Brian Hechinger wrote:
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:02:30PM -0400, Fred wrote:
Also, I would want to setup the bridge as well. Are there any direction on
setting the bridge program up to talk directly to simh?
To quote a movie "That's not my area" ... (so I won't comment) :)
Well then, I'll wait for someone who's area it is to answer. :-D
There are no specifics for setting the bridge for simh. You just need a machine that runs the bridge, and it will bridge everything for DECnet, including traffic from a simh machine. It's no different than any other machine talking DECnet.
Johnny
