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Terminal software (other than DECterm) that can do ReGIS and/or SIXEL graphics?

by sampsa＠mac.com

Chaps, I've been looking for a terminal emulation package that could do REGIS/SIXEL graphics on either Windows, UNIX or Mac? Any suggestions? Sampsa

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Attaching to hecnet

by bernier＠pescadoo.net

At 1:54 PM +0200 7/8/10, Johnny Billquist wrote: Other machines I know of: MAGICA, ZEKE, KRILLE, SIGGE, TEMPO, PSILO, TINA and PAMINA are all in ERNIE, JOSSE and BEA are in Stockholm. I'll let others continue. SHARK, SNAKE, SYTER located in Marseille, FR. Currently offline due to climatic craziness, estimated downtime: 1 month. _________________________ At 6:14 PM +0700 7/8/10, Oleg Safiullin wrote: I've just created a `Geo location of HECnet nodes' web page (using `NCP SHOW ACTIVE NODES', above URL, INFO.TXT's and some of abusive words) Nice map. Is there a field in the Network Database (RSX-11M+) I should fill to allow automatic location? -- Jean-Yves Bernier

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by sampsa＠mac.com

Virtualised x86 - I wouldn't waste an Alpha on it :) Sampsa On 16 Jul 2010, at 03:13, Zane H. Healy wrote: At 11:57 PM +0100 7/15/10, Sampsa Laine wrote: Yeah I haven't seen much traffic lately. Anyway, I'd like to announce a new node, BONZO, 8.800. It's a Windows NT 4.0 machine running Pathworks :) Obviously it's not offering any services, just a bit of a toy for me to play with it... Sampsa So is it running on x86 or Alpha? Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |

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by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: At 11:57 PM +0100 7/15/10, Sampsa Laine wrote: Yeah I haven't seen much traffic lately. Anyway, I'd like to announce a new node, BONZO, 8.800. It's a Windows NT 4.0 machine running Pathworks :) Obviously it's not offering any services, just a bit of a toy for me to play with it... Sampsa So is it running on x86 or Alpha? Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ | Hello! Also I forgot to mention that earlier in the week, the machine manager back in the University mentioned here that he'd be doing maintenance on it.... He also mentioned that there would be few messages during the time period that the host would be taking time off. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: At 11:57 PM +0100 7/15/10, Sampsa Laine wrote: Yeah I haven't seen much traffic lately. Anyway, I'd like to announce a new node, BONZO, 8.800. It's a Windows NT 4.0 machine running Pathworks :) Obviously it's not offering any services, just a bit of a toy for me to play with it... Sampsa So is it running on x86 or Alpha? Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ | Hello! I agree! Sampsa, does the license of the Pathworks kit allow for the individual using it to make copies of the disks for backup? And then to share the backups? Funny, funny, I have a copy of the original DOS disk someplace, but its on a 5.25 disk and my only machine who can read that disk is on down time at the moment. I also don't have here a card that's designed to use it. At one time I had a replacement binary that allowed for the Racal designed networking card (Ethernet) to take over for the DecNet card, that's the one with the two individual ears. Also the card as well, but I got rid of the card and the disks when the card wore out....... Also the individual who did have some of those boards, actually sold them all. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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by healyzh＠aracnet.com

At 11:57 PM +0100 7/15/10, Sampsa Laine wrote: Yeah I haven't seen much traffic lately. Anyway, I'd like to announce a new node, BONZO, 8.800. It's a Windows NT 4.0 machine running Pathworks :) Obviously it's not offering any services, just a bit of a toy for me to play with it... Sampsa So is it running on x86 or Alpha? Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |

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by sampsa＠mac.com

Yeah I haven't seen much traffic lately. Anyway, I'd like to announce a new node, BONZO, 8.800. It's a Windows NT 4.0 machine running Pathworks :) Obviously it's not offering any services, just a bit of a toy for me to play with it... Sampsa On 15 Jul 2010, at 23:35, H Vlems wrote: Hi, is the mailing list down? Since last Tuesday 10 AM the mail flow suddenly stopped. Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens H Vlems Verzonden: dinsdag, juli 2010 10:13 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] Alpha Server 4100 What is wrong with your Alpha Server 4100? I've always wanted one for my collection, but its size and mass are holding me back.... -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Sampsa Laine Verzonden: dinsdag, juli 2010 3:10 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Off-topic but still kinda cool... Well, I'm not sure I'm buying it yet, my 4100 is in a pretty messed up state so not sure it's much use to anyone... Sampsa On 13 Jul 2010, at 02:06, Gregg Levine wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Check this magazine out, I've been talking to the editor lately about HECnet and DEC stuff in general, he seemed very interested: http://www.300baudmagazine.com/index.html Sampsa -- Hello! Oh mynock muffins! I remember OS-9, I actually looked at it, for one project or another, it seemed to be an excellent OS for what it could do. Too bad the only system developement was supported on was a dang-blasted CoCo...... I then started digging even deeper into the Apple II, by the time the PCs were being cloned, I wore it out. Now its up to something else to surface. Or at least arrive...... Incidentally Sampsa, if you do end up buying that Alpha system, what's happening the the fellow he's replacing? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2998 - datum van uitgifte: 07/12/10 08:36:00 Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2998 - datum van uitgifte: 07/12/10 18:49:00

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by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

Hi, is the mailing list down? Since last Tuesday 10 AM the mail flow suddenly stopped. Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens H Vlems Verzonden: dinsdag, juli 2010 10:13 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] Alpha Server 4100 What is wrong with your Alpha Server 4100? I've always wanted one for my collection, but its size and mass are holding me back.... -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Sampsa Laine Verzonden: dinsdag, juli 2010 3:10 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Off-topic but still kinda cool... Well, I'm not sure I'm buying it yet, my 4100 is in a pretty messed up state so not sure it's much use to anyone... Sampsa On 13 Jul 2010, at 02:06, Gregg Levine wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Check this magazine out, I've been talking to the editor lately about HECnet and DEC stuff in general, he seemed very interested: http://www.300baudmagazine.com/index.html Sampsa -- Hello! Oh mynock muffins! I remember OS-9, I actually looked at it, for one project or another, it seemed to be an excellent OS for what it could do. Too bad the only system developement was supported on was a dang-blasted CoCo...... I then started digging even deeper into the Apple II, by the time the PCs were being cloned, I wore it out. Now its up to something else to surface. Or at least arrive...... Incidentally Sampsa, if you do end up buying that Alpha system, what's happening the the fellow he's replacing? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2998 - datum van uitgifte: 07/12/10 08:36:00 Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2998 - datum van uitgifte: 07/12/10 18:49:00

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Alpha Server 4100

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

What is wrong with your Alpha Server 4100? I've always wanted one for my collection, but its size and mass are holding me back.... -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Sampsa Laine Verzonden: dinsdag, juli 2010 3:10 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Off-topic but still kinda cool... Well, I'm not sure I'm buying it yet, my 4100 is in a pretty messed up state so not sure it's much use to anyone... Sampsa On 13 Jul 2010, at 02:06, Gregg Levine wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Check this magazine out, I've been talking to the editor lately about HECnet and DEC stuff in general, he seemed very interested: http://www.300baudmagazine.com/index.html Sampsa -- Hello! Oh mynock muffins! I remember OS-9, I actually looked at it, for one project or another, it seemed to be an excellent OS for what it could do. Too bad the only system developement was supported on was a dang-blasted CoCo...... I then started digging even deeper into the Apple II, by the time the PCs were being cloned, I wore it out. Now its up to something else to surface. Or at least arrive...... Incidentally Sampsa, if you do end up buying that Alpha system, what's happening the the fellow he's replacing? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2998 - datum van uitgifte: 07/12/10 08:36:00

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Off-topic but still kinda cool...

by sampsa＠mac.com

Well, I'm not sure I'm buying it yet, my 4100 is in a pretty messed up state so not sure it's much use to anyone... Sampsa On 13 Jul 2010, at 02:06, Gregg Levine wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Check this magazine out, I've been talking to the editor lately about HECnet and DEC stuff in general, he seemed very interested: http://www.300baudmagazine.com/index.html Sampsa -- Hello! Oh mynock muffins! I remember OS-9, I actually looked at it, for one project or another, it seemed to be an excellent OS for what it could do. Too bad the only system developement was supported on was a dang-blasted CoCo...... I then started digging even deeper into the Apple II, by the time the PCs were being cloned, I wore it out. Now its up to something else to surface. Or at least arrive...... Incidentally Sampsa, if you do end up buying that Alpha system, what's happening the the fellow he's replacing? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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Off-topic but still kinda cool...

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Check this magazine out, I've been talking to the editor lately about HECnet and DEC stuff in general, he seemed very interested: http://www.300baudmagazine.com/index.html Sampsa -- Hello! Oh mynock muffins! I remember OS-9, I actually looked at it, for one project or another, it seemed to be an excellent OS for what it could do. Too bad the only system developement was supported on was a dang-blasted CoCo...... I then started digging even deeper into the Apple II, by the time the PCs were being cloned, I wore it out. Now its up to something else to surface. Or at least arrive...... Incidentally Sampsa, if you do end up buying that Alpha system, what's happening the the fellow he's replacing? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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Off-topic but still kinda cool...

by sampsa＠mac.com

Check this magazine out, I've been talking to the editor lately about HECnet and DEC stuff in general, he seemed very interested: http://www.300baudmagazine.com/index.html Sampsa

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Area 44 - update

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

What I find fascinating is that in English, Ducth and a few other languages most elements have names that end in -ium. For me that sounds like Latin. Italian comes from Latin and most elements suddenly end in -o. Take Iron (Fe), which has two valencies 2+ and 3+. The old style dutch names for Fe(II) compounds were called Ferro, say Fe(SO4) was Ferro Sulphate and Fe(III) compounds were called Ferri so Fe2(SO4)3 was Ferri Sulphate. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens gerry77 at mail.com Verzonden: maandag, juli 2010 21:53 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:39:14 +0200, you wrote: Note the english names for 33 and 34. In dutch the elements are called koolstof and zuurstof and these names are obviously too long. Any suggestions for names of elements that are 6 characters or less, in other languages? See my current list on home.zonnet.nl/hvlems There's one in french: Azote for nitrogen (stikstof). In Italian: Elio (He), Litio (Li), Boro (B), Azoto (N), Fluoro (F), Neon (Ne), Sodio (Na), Zolfo (S), Cloro (Cl), Argon (Ar), Calcio (Ca), Cromo (Cr), Ferro (Fe), Nichel (Ni), Rame (Cu), Zinco (Zn), Gallio (Ga), Bromo (Br), Ittrio (Y), Niobio (Nb), Rodio (Rh), Cadmio (Cd), Indio (In), Stagno (Sn), Iodio (I), Xeno (Xe), Cesio (Cs), Bario (Ba), Afnio (Hf), Renio (Re), Osmio (Os), Iridio (Ir), Oro (Au), Tallio (Tl), Piombo (Pb), Astato (At), Radon (Rn), Radio (Ra), Cerio (Ce), Terbio (Tb), Olmio (Ho), Erbio (Er), Tulio (Tm), Torio (Th), Uranio (U), Curio (Cm), Fermio (Fm). Reference: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavola_periodica Note that: 1. Neon (Ne) is also the commonly used name for fluorescent lamps 2. Ferro (Fe) might be used as a synonym for any generic metallic substance 3. Calcio (Ca) means also soccer and kick 4. Stagno (Sn) means also pond and watertight (or airtight) 5. Radio (Ra) means also radio receiver and broadcasting company HTH, :-) G. Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2998 - datum van uitgifte: 07/12/10 08:36:00

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Area 44 - update

by gerry77＠mail.com

On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:39:14 +0200, you wrote: Note the english names for 33 and 34. In dutch the elements are called koolstof and zuurstof and these names are obviously too long. Any suggestions for names of elements that are 6 characters or less, in other languages? See my current list on home.zonnet.nl/hvlems There's one in french: Azote for nitrogen (stikstof). In Italian: Elio (He), Litio (Li), Boro (B), Azoto (N), Fluoro (F), Neon (Ne), Sodio (Na), Zolfo (S), Cloro (Cl), Argon (Ar), Calcio (Ca), Cromo (Cr), Ferro (Fe), Nichel (Ni), Rame (Cu), Zinco (Zn), Gallio (Ga), Bromo (Br), Ittrio (Y), Niobio (Nb), Rodio (Rh), Cadmio (Cd), Indio (In), Stagno (Sn), Iodio (I), Xeno (Xe), Cesio (Cs), Bario (Ba), Afnio (Hf), Renio (Re), Osmio (Os), Iridio (Ir), Oro (Au), Tallio (Tl), Piombo (Pb), Astato (At), Radon (Rn), Radio (Ra), Cerio (Ce), Terbio (Tb), Olmio (Ho), Erbio (Er), Tulio (Tm), Torio (Th), Uranio (U), Curio (Cm), Fermio (Fm). Reference: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavola_periodica Note that: 1. Neon (Ne) is also the commonly used name for fluorescent lamps 2. Ferro (Fe) might be used as a synonym for any generic metallic substance 3. Calcio (Ca) means also soccer and kick 4. Stagno (Sn) means also pond and watertight (or airtight) 5. Radio (Ra) means also radio receiver and broadcasting company HTH, :-) G.

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Area 44 - update

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

Hi Kari, a long time ago (summer of '79) I participated on a student exchange program set up between the technical universities of Poznan (PL) and Eindhoven (NL). I was the chemist in the dutch team of 4 and did some work on a fertilizer factory north of Poznan. We lived in a student dormitory and met people from all over Europe, including a sizeable group of Finnish students. They introduced us to the sauna, and since warm water had been turned of (it was summer) that was marvelous news to us. They also came up with more interesting concepts, like drinking wodka and trying to learn Polish. I remember mentioning that 7 cases was rather difficult and (obviously) the Fins dropped off their chairs laughing (that's where ROTFL comes from). They tried to explain Finnish grammar and I am sure that gave me the headache, not the wodka :-) -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Kari Uusim ki Verzonden: maandag, juli 2010 21:00 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update Hans, Interesting that you find Finnish beautiful. I've heard that before, but about song lyrics. Finnish grammar is widely considered complex. I think that is due to the fact that its structure differs considerably from most other languages. One main difference is that pre- or postpositions aren't used at all but word endings instead. E.g. house = talo; in(side) the house = talossa ; into the house = taloon ; out of the house = talosta ; at the house = talolla ; without a house = talotta ; his house = talonsa. Btw. Finnish has 14 casi. :) The newest elements are syntethic an instable in normal conditions (NTP) AFAIK. Kari On 12.7.2010 20:54, H Vlems wrote: Ummm, Kari let me start with the statement that Finnish is a beautiful language, quite often spoken by equally beautiful women. But it didn't strike me as a simple language ;-) rather full of words with many syllables! In terms of chemical elements though, Finnish tends to drop the 'h' (e.g. Tulium instead of Thulium) which brings a few elements within reach. And Unbium was new to me as well (I'm a chemist but when I was at school the periodic table ended at 104, Rf! Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Kari Uusim ki Verzonden: zondag, juli 2010 23:01 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update There are the Finnish names for the elemants: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luettelo_alkuaineista Some are short but most are too long. On 11.7.2010 1:15, H Vlems wrote: G ran, that is an interisting list because it offers new possibilities. The noble gasses work well in dutch, just like the halogens. Group 6 is interesting. I use OXYGEN and Seleen. But obviously Tellur is ok too (is Tellurium in dutch). Bi is Bismuth in dutch. Vismut works for DECnet. Current nodes have names and these remain the same even when the area changes. See my website for a list of names: home.zonnet.nl/hvlems The collection is ever expanding so I'm always in need of new nodenames. Thanks for the suggestions, hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens G ran hling Verzonden: zaterdag, juli 2010 21:23 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update Swedish is also a language, not to distant from the Dutch... (though the 3 letters not beeing US-ASCII - takes some words out of the possible list of DECnet node names) He Helium Ne Neon Ar Argon Kr Krypton Xe Xenon Rn Radon F Flour Cl Klor Br Brom I Jod At Astat O Syre S Svavel Se Selen Te Tellur Po Polonium N Kv ve P Fosfor As Arsenik Sb Antimon Bi Vismut C Kol Si Kisel Ge Germanium Sn Tenn Pb Bly B Bor Al Aluminium Ga Gallium In Indium Tl Tallium For those mentioned in Russinan, to compare: B Bor N Kv ve Ne Neon S Svavel Cr Krom Br Brom Xe Xenon U Uran Have a "happy naming cermony", whatever names are chosen ;-) /G ran On 2010-07-10 18:39, H Vlems wrote: It is too much of an effort to publish all the names of the elements in dutch and compare them to their russian equivalents. I can augment your list though: 6OP (B) boor (borium, easily confused with Bohrium) A3OT (N) stikstof, or azote in french HEOH (Ne) neon CEPA (S) zwavel (in polish is this sarkow [after kwas sarkowy, sulphuric acid?]) XPOM (Cr) chroom 6POM (Br) broom KCEHOH (Xe) xenon YPAH (U) uranium, which gets abbreviated to uraan I used that trick with Se and As ; selenium and arsenicum are abbreviated to seleen and arseen. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Oleg Safiullin Verzonden: zaterdag, juli 2010 16:13 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update On 10.07.2010 16:39, H Vlems wrote: Area 44 will be extended today with the following 6 nodes: FLUOR 44.29 Alpha Server 1000A 5/333 VMS 7.3-2 BROOM 44.14 Alpha Server 1200 VMS 7.3-2 IJZER 44.19 Compaq Prof. Workstation VMS 8.3 TIN 44.28 Alpha Server 1200 VMS 8.3 CARBON 44.33 DEC AXP 3000 MODEL 300x VMS 1.5-1H1 OXYGEN 44.34 DEC AXP 3000 MODEL 300x VMS 6.1 done. Any suggestions for names of elements that are 6 characters or less, in other languages? Some of russian names :) 6OP (B) A3OT (N) HEOH (Ne) CEPA (S) XPOM (Cr) 6POM (Br) KCEHOH (Xe) YPAH (U) Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2992 - datum van uitgifte: 07/09/10 20:36:00 Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2992 - datum van uitgifte: 07/09/10 20:36:00 . Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2998 - datum van uitgifte: 07/12/10 08:36:00 . Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2998 - datum van uitgifte: 07/12/10 08:36:00

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Area 44 - update

by uusimaki＠exdecfinland.org

Hans, Interesting that you find Finnish beautiful. I've heard that before, but about song lyrics. Finnish grammar is widely considered complex. I think that is due to the fact that its structure differs considerably from most other languages. One main difference is that pre- or postpositions aren't used at all but word endings instead. E.g. house = talo; in(side) the house = talossa ; into the house = taloon ; out of the house = talosta ; at the house = talolla ; without a house = talotta ; his house = talonsa. Btw. Finnish has 14 casi. :) The newest elements are syntethic an instable in normal conditions (NTP) AFAIK. Kari On 12.7.2010 20:54, H Vlems wrote: Ummm, Kari let me start with the statement that Finnish is a beautiful language, quite often spoken by equally beautiful women. But it didn't strike me as a simple language ;-) rather full of words with many syllables! In terms of chemical elements though, Finnish tends to drop the 'h' (e.g. Tulium instead of Thulium) which brings a few elements within reach. And Unbium was new to me as well (I'm a chemist but when I was at school the periodic table ended at 104, Rf! Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Kari Uusim ki Verzonden: zondag, juli 2010 23:01 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update There are the Finnish names for the elemants: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luettelo_alkuaineista Some are short but most are too long. On 11.7.2010 1:15, H Vlems wrote: G ran, that is an interisting list because it offers new possibilities. The noble gasses work well in dutch, just like the halogens. Group 6 is interesting. I use OXYGEN and Seleen. But obviously Tellur is ok too (is Tellurium in dutch). Bi is Bismuth in dutch. Vismut works for DECnet. Current nodes have names and these remain the same even when the area changes. See my website for a list of names: home.zonnet.nl/hvlems The collection is ever expanding so I'm always in need of new nodenames. Thanks for the suggestions, hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens G ran hling Verzonden: zaterdag, juli 2010 21:23 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update Swedish is also a language, not to distant from the Dutch... (though the 3 letters not beeing US-ASCII - takes some words out of the possible list of DECnet node names) He Helium Ne Neon Ar Argon Kr Krypton Xe Xenon Rn Radon F Flour Cl Klor Br Brom I Jod At Astat O Syre S Svavel Se Selen Te Tellur Po Polonium N Kv ve P Fosfor As Arsenik Sb Antimon Bi Vismut C Kol Si Kisel Ge Germanium Sn Tenn Pb Bly B Bor Al Aluminium Ga Gallium In Indium Tl Tallium For those mentioned in Russinan, to compare: B Bor N Kv ve Ne Neon S Svavel Cr Krom Br Brom Xe Xenon U Uran Have a "happy naming cermony", whatever names are chosen ;-) /G ran On 2010-07-10 18:39, H Vlems wrote: It is too much of an effort to publish all the names of the elements in dutch and compare them to their russian equivalents. I can augment your list though: 6OP (B) boor (borium, easily confused with Bohrium) A3OT (N) stikstof, or azote in french HEOH (Ne) neon CEPA (S) zwavel (in polish is this sarkow [after kwas sarkowy, sulphuric acid?]) XPOM (Cr) chroom 6POM (Br) broom KCEHOH (Xe) xenon YPAH (U) uranium, which gets abbreviated to uraan I used that trick with Se and As ; selenium and arsenicum are abbreviated to seleen and arseen. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Oleg Safiullin Verzonden: zaterdag, juli 2010 16:13 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update On 10.07.2010 16:39, H Vlems wrote: Area 44 will be extended today with the following 6 nodes: FLUOR 44.29 Alpha Server 1000A 5/333 VMS 7.3-2 BROOM 44.14 Alpha Server 1200 VMS 7.3-2 IJZER 44.19 Compaq Prof. Workstation VMS 8.3 TIN 44.28 Alpha Server 1200 VMS 8.3 CARBON 44.33 DEC AXP 3000 MODEL 300x VMS 1.5-1H1 OXYGEN 44.34 DEC AXP 3000 MODEL 300x VMS 6.1 done. Any suggestions for names of elements that are 6 characters or less, in other languages? Some of russian names :) 6OP (B) A3OT (N) HEOH (Ne) CEPA (S) XPOM (Cr) 6POM (Br) KCEHOH (Xe) YPAH (U) Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2992 - datum van uitgifte: 07/09/10 20:36:00 Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2992 - datum van uitgifte: 07/09/10 20:36:00 . Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2998 - datum van uitgifte: 07/12/10 08:36:00 .

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Area 44 - update

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

Ummm, Kari let me start with the statement that Finnish is a beautiful language, quite often spoken by equally beautiful women. But it didn't strike me as a simple language ;-) rather full of words with many syllables! In terms of chemical elements though, Finnish tends to drop the 'h' (e.g. Tulium instead of Thulium) which brings a few elements within reach. And Unbium was new to me as well (I'm a chemist but when I was at school the periodic table ended at 104, Rf! Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Kari Uusim ki Verzonden: zondag, juli 2010 23:01 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update There are the Finnish names for the elemants: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luettelo_alkuaineista Some are short but most are too long. On 11.7.2010 1:15, H Vlems wrote: G ran, that is an interisting list because it offers new possibilities. The noble gasses work well in dutch, just like the halogens. Group 6 is interesting. I use OXYGEN and Seleen. But obviously Tellur is ok too (is Tellurium in dutch). Bi is Bismuth in dutch. Vismut works for DECnet. Current nodes have names and these remain the same even when the area changes. See my website for a list of names: home.zonnet.nl/hvlems The collection is ever expanding so I'm always in need of new nodenames. Thanks for the suggestions, hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens G ran hling Verzonden: zaterdag, juli 2010 21:23 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update Swedish is also a language, not to distant from the Dutch... (though the 3 letters not beeing US-ASCII - takes some words out of the possible list of DECnet node names) He Helium Ne Neon Ar Argon Kr Krypton Xe Xenon Rn Radon F Flour Cl Klor Br Brom I Jod At Astat O Syre S Svavel Se Selen Te Tellur Po Polonium N Kv ve P Fosfor As Arsenik Sb Antimon Bi Vismut C Kol Si Kisel Ge Germanium Sn Tenn Pb Bly B Bor Al Aluminium Ga Gallium In Indium Tl Tallium For those mentioned in Russinan, to compare: B Bor N Kv ve Ne Neon S Svavel Cr Krom Br Brom Xe Xenon U Uran Have a "happy naming cermony", whatever names are chosen ;-) /G ran On 2010-07-10 18:39, H Vlems wrote: It is too much of an effort to publish all the names of the elements in dutch and compare them to their russian equivalents. I can augment your list though: 6OP (B) boor (borium, easily confused with Bohrium) A3OT (N) stikstof, or azote in french HEOH (Ne) neon CEPA (S) zwavel (in polish is this sarkow [after kwas sarkowy, sulphuric acid?]) XPOM (Cr) chroom 6POM (Br) broom KCEHOH (Xe) xenon YPAH (U) uranium, which gets abbreviated to uraan I used that trick with Se and As ; selenium and arsenicum are abbreviated to seleen and arseen. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Oleg Safiullin Verzonden: zaterdag, juli 2010 16:13 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update On 10.07.2010 16:39, H Vlems wrote: Area 44 will be extended today with the following 6 nodes: FLUOR 44.29 Alpha Server 1000A 5/333 VMS 7.3-2 BROOM 44.14 Alpha Server 1200 VMS 7.3-2 IJZER 44.19 Compaq Prof. Workstation VMS 8.3 TIN 44.28 Alpha Server 1200 VMS 8.3 CARBON 44.33 DEC AXP 3000 MODEL 300x VMS 1.5-1H1 OXYGEN 44.34 DEC AXP 3000 MODEL 300x VMS 6.1 done. Any suggestions for names of elements that are 6 characters or less, in other languages? Some of russian names :) 6OP (B) A3OT (N) HEOH (Ne) CEPA (S) XPOM (Cr) 6POM (Br) KCEHOH (Xe) YPAH (U) Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2992 - datum van uitgifte: 07/09/10 20:36:00 Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2992 - datum van uitgifte: 07/09/10 20:36:00 . Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2998 - datum van uitgifte: 07/12/10 08:36:00

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KZPAC RAID controller in a DS20E?

by sampsa＠mac.com

Yup, might do that at some point, but I have a working setup that I'd just like to move across from the 4100 to the DS20E... Sampsa On 12 Jul 2010, at 18:10, Kari Uusim ki wrote: Technically yes, but the KZPAC limitations are many. Why not buy a SA5302 to use newer,bigger and more disks? Kari On 12.7.2010 19:30, Sampsa Laine wrote: Guys, I'm considering buying a DS20E alphaserver to replace my broken 4100, and was wondering if it is possible to move the KZPAC controller from the 4100 into the DS20E (and thus enable me to use the two RAID packs as disks for the DS20)... Sampsa .

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KZPAC RAID controller in a DS20E?

by uusimaki＠exdecfinland.org

Technically yes, but the KZPAC limitations are many. Why not buy a SA5302 to use newer,bigger and more disks? Kari On 12.7.2010 19:30, Sampsa Laine wrote: Guys, I'm considering buying a DS20E alphaserver to replace my broken 4100, and was wondering if it is possible to move the KZPAC controller from the 4100 into the DS20E (and thus enable me to use the two RAID packs as disks for the DS20)... Sampsa .

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KZPAC RAID controller in a DS20E?

by sampsa＠mac.com

Guys, I'm considering buying a DS20E alphaserver to replace my broken 4100, and was wondering if it is possible to move the KZPAC controller from the 4100 into the DS20E (and thus enable me to use the two RAID packs as disks for the DS20)... Sampsa

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Menu system for VMS

by uusimaki＠exdecfinland.org

There is the system management menu (SYS$EXAMPLES:MGRMENU.COM) which you can easily modify to produce your own menu functions. Kari On 12.7.2010 5:21, Sampsa Laine wrote: Yup, figured as much, see my last message :) Sampsa On 12 Jul 2010, at 03:20, Zane H. Healy wrote: At 1:16 AM +0100 7/12/10, Sampsa Laine wrote: I'm planning on making a sort of "portal" for connecting to external systems from CHIMPY, i.e. create a captive user with a login script that shows a list of destinations (either SET HOST or TELNET). Any recommendations for which of the many menu programs from the Freeware disks to use? I'd just use a DCL script. I did something like this years ago, and my wife used it to access her email. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ | .

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Menu system for VMS

by sampsa＠mac.com

Yup, figured as much, see my last message :) Sampsa On 12 Jul 2010, at 03:20, Zane H. Healy wrote: At 1:16 AM +0100 7/12/10, Sampsa Laine wrote: I'm planning on making a sort of "portal" for connecting to external systems from CHIMPY, i.e. create a captive user with a login script that shows a list of destinations (either SET HOST or TELNET). Any recommendations for which of the many menu programs from the Freeware disks to use? I'd just use a DCL script. I did something like this years ago, and my wife used it to access her email. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |

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Menu system for VMS

by sampsa＠mac.com

OK, so I rolled my own. A very quick and dirty DCL hack, but it seems to work (thanks Steve). Anyone want their system to be listed on this (log on to CHIMPY as user LAUNCH to see what I'm talking about , I took the liberty of adding WOPR and MIM for testing purposes, let me know if you want them delisted)... Sampsa On 12 Jul 2010, at 02:04, Sampsa Laine wrote: That does sound interesting, but I'm just looking for an easy to configure menu that launches DCL commands. I know I could write a script, but if something nicer is already out there, I'd prefer to use that... Sampsa On 12 Jul 2010, at 01:43, Jason Stevens wrote: A few weeks ago I found this bbs software written in DEC Fortran for VMS... I'm not sure if that's what you'd have in mind, but it seemed interesting..... On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Guys, I'm planning on making a sort of "portal" for connecting to external systems from CHIMPY, i.e. create a captive user with a login script that shows a list of destinations (either SET HOST or TELNET). Any recommendations for which of the many menu programs from the Freeware disks to use? Sampsa

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Menu system for VMS

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

At 1:16 AM +0100 7/12/10, Sampsa Laine wrote: I'm planning on making a sort of "portal" for connecting to external systems from CHIMPY, i.e. create a captive user with a login script that shows a list of destinations (either SET HOST or TELNET). Any recommendations for which of the many menu programs from the Freeware disks to use? I'd just use a DCL script. I did something like this years ago, and my wife used it to access her email. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |

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Menu system for VMS

by sampsa＠mac.com

That does sound interesting, but I'm just looking for an easy to configure menu that launches DCL commands. I know I could write a script, but if something nicer is already out there, I'd prefer to use that... Sampsa On 12 Jul 2010, at 01:43, Jason Stevens wrote: A few weeks ago I found this bbs software written in DEC Fortran for VMS... I'm not sure if that's what you'd have in mind, but it seemed interesting..... On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Guys, I'm planning on making a sort of "portal" for connecting to external systems from CHIMPY, i.e. create a captive user with a login script that shows a list of destinations (either SET HOST or TELNET). Any recommendations for which of the many menu programs from the Freeware disks to use? Sampsa

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