On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Sampsa Laine wrote:
No, haven't really tried....What I was thinking of doing was using this to export lots of disk space to my machines from elsewhere on my network - I was going to use the 8.4 iSCSI stuff but can't get it to work..
Sampsa
Do you have the release version of 8.4? I had hopes of having iSCSI working
with the Alpha Version of 8.4, but I have to wonder if they crippled it so
that it only works with HP devices. :-(
I've considered seeing if I could use SIMH to export disks. I need a way to
significantly cut my power requirements, so that I can bring at least one
VMS system back online. I've been considering a lean config on an
AlphaStation 200 4/233, rather than my XP1000 with 6 external high
performance SCSI drives. I'm also thinking of setting up an Atom based
system running SIMH, the problem being that costs money that I'd rather
spend on photography.
Zane
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Jason Stevens wrote:
Yeah it's really quite sad. Of course people scoff, but it's a great way to
test floating point since it's obviously not an intel product... and gives
different results, in strange and fun ways to make sure your code still
comes out right......
Oh! You were being serious!
How about running OpenBSD/NetBSD/FreeBSD or Linux on there? Would that do
the trick for you?
Zane
No, haven't really tried....What I was thinking of doing was using this to export lots of disk space to my machines from elsewhere on my network - I was going to use the 8.4 iSCSI stuff but can't get it to work..
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 17:57, Zane H. Healy wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Guys, just saw this on openvmshobbyist.com:
FreeAXP http://www.migrationspecialties.com/FreeAXP.html#Components
It emulates a AlphaServer 400 with up to 7 drives and 128 MB of RAM. Runs on Windows though :(
I'm currently rolling out a test system to see how well it behaves on Win2K3 Server.
Sampsa
Have you ever run an Alpha with only 128MB of RAM? That is the absolute
bare minimum I'd run 7.2 in, and it wasn't fun. I really wish they'd allow
between 192MB and 256MB, as at that point it starts being usable. Of course
I'd also like a Linux version. :-)
Zane
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Guys, just saw this on openvmshobbyist.com:
FreeAXP http://www.migrationspecialties.com/FreeAXP.html#Components
It emulates a AlphaServer 400 with up to 7 drives and 128 MB of RAM. Runs on Windows though :(
I'm currently rolling out a test system to see how well it behaves on Win2K3 Server.
Sampsa
Have you ever run an Alpha with only 128MB of RAM? That is the absolute
bare minimum I'd run 7.2 in, and it wasn't fun. I really wish they'd allow
between 192MB and 256MB, as at that point it starts being usable. Of course
I'd also like a Linux version. :-)
Zane
Yeah it's really quite sad. Of course people scoff, but it's a great way to test floating point since it's obviously not an intel product... and gives different results, in strange and fun ways to make sure your code still comes out right......
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Yes Jason, I can't believe it won't fulfil that huge gap in hobbyist NT 4.0 Alpha users' emulation needs.
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 17:28, Jason Stevens wrote:
And it won't even run NT.... :|
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Guys, just saw this on openvmshobbyist.com:
FreeAXP http://www.migrationspecialties.com/FreeAXP.html#Components
It emulates a AlphaServer 400 with up to 7 drives and 128 MB of RAM. Runs on Windows though :(
I'm currently rolling out a test system to see how well it behaves on Win2K3 Server.
Sampsa
Yes Jason, I can't believe it won't fulfil that huge gap in hobbyist NT 4.0 Alpha users' emulation needs.
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 17:28, Jason Stevens wrote:
And it won't even run NT.... :|
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Guys, just saw this on openvmshobbyist.com:
FreeAXP http://www.migrationspecialties.com/FreeAXP.html#Components
It emulates a AlphaServer 400 with up to 7 drives and 128 MB of RAM. Runs on Windows though :(
I'm currently rolling out a test system to see how well it behaves on Win2K3 Server.
Sampsa
And it won't even run NT.... :|
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Guys, just saw this on openvmshobbyist.com:
FreeAXP http://www.migrationspecialties.com/FreeAXP.html#Components
It emulates a AlphaServer 400 with up to 7 drives and 128 MB of RAM. Runs on Windows though :(
I'm currently rolling out a test system to see how well it behaves on Win2K3 Server.
Sampsa
Yeah, the low RAM kinda sucks. But it seems a bit more light weight than PersonalAlpha and support way more disk..
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 17:26, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Guys, just saw this on openvmshobbyist.com:
FreeAXP http://www.migrationspecialties.com/FreeAXP.html#Components
It emulates a AlphaServer 400 with up to 7 drives and 128 MB of RAM.
Runs on Windows though :(
I'm currently rolling out a test system to see how well it behaves on
Win2K3 Server.
That's ghetto as hell. Only 128MB? That's not much for an Alpha.
Peace... Sridhar
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Guys, just saw this on openvmshobbyist.com:
FreeAXP http://www.migrationspecialties.com/FreeAXP.html#Components
It emulates a AlphaServer 400 with up to 7 drives and 128 MB of RAM.
Runs on Windows though :(
I'm currently rolling out a test system to see how well it behaves on
Win2K3 Server.
That's ghetto as hell. Only 128MB? That's not much for an Alpha.
Peace... Sridhar
Sampsa Laine wrote:
I must get myself one of these, I wonder how often they become available
in the UK...
I saw a VT340 go in ebay.co.uk not all that long ago. (1 year?)
I keep two VT340s around the house. I absolutely adore them. I wouldn't mind picking up a VT330, just because that almost-flat CRT is a sight to behold. Razor-sharp. By comparison, at times the VT340 can be a touch blurry, especially when not yet warm.
Peace... Sridhar
On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 11:31 -0400, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
Mark Wickens wrote:
Just bought monkey.sixel up on a remotely displayed decterm
Cool! Note sure if the VT330 can do sixel, but the LA75+ printer
can... ;)
The VT330 can do sixel. Only greyscale, and I'm not sure if it can do a
full six bits worth.
Peace... Sridhar
Ah OK,
In that case I'll give it a go over the weekend.
Mark.
I must get myself one of these, I wonder how often they become available in the UK...
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 16:31, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
Mark Wickens wrote:
Just bought monkey.sixel up on a remotely displayed decterm
Cool! Note sure if the VT330 can do sixel, but the LA75+ printer
can... ;)
The VT330 can do sixel. Only greyscale, and I'm not sure if it can do a full six bits worth.
Peace... Sridhar
Mark Wickens wrote:
Just bought monkey.sixel up on a remotely displayed decterm
Cool! Note sure if the VT330 can do sixel, but the LA75+ printer
can... ;)
The VT330 can do sixel. Only greyscale, and I'm not sure if it can do a full six bits worth.
Peace... Sridhar
Just bought monkey.sixel up on a remotely displayed decterm
Cool! Note sure if the VT330 can do sixel, but the LA75+ printer
can... ;)
M.
On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 15:41 +0100, Sampsa Laine wrote:
BTW, if you want to play with creating SIXEL graphics, ImageMagick
knows how to convert bitmaps to SIXEL...
I've put two examples in MEDIALIB on RHESUS, MONKEY.SIXEL and
DIVE.SIXEL.
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 15:38, Steve Davidson wrote:
ReGIS first came out with the VT125 in the early 80's. I may still
even have
the VT125 manual! My room mate at the time did a Rubick's cube demo
on it for
DECUS.
-Steve
Regis first came out with one of the VT100 series terminals --
VT131? =
VT105? I forgot. It also showed up, in lobotomized form, in the
"GIGI" =
(don't bother looking for one, they suck). It became more
widespread in =
the VT240.
I'm pretty sure that a number of the X windows "xterm" style
programs =
support it. Perhaps not the original xterm, but there are lots of =
extended versions and there should be some that handle this.
Sixel is probably more widely available since it's quite easy to =
implement.
paul
On Jul 16, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Cool - what real terminals support this stuff anyway, from what I
can =
gather a VT340 works, right?
=20
Sampsa
=20
=20
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:24, Mark Wickens wrote:
=20
Attachmate Reflection (Windows package) has a specific
application =
that
implements Regis graphics - I know - I bought version 14 recently
and
gnuplot will happily draw to it when the terminal type is set
regis.
=20
Mark.
=20
=20
BTW, if you want to play with creating SIXEL graphics, ImageMagick knows how to convert bitmaps to SIXEL...
I've put two examples in MEDIALIB on RHESUS, MONKEY.SIXEL and DIVE.SIXEL.
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 15:38, Steve Davidson wrote:
ReGIS first came out with the VT125 in the early 80's. I may still even have
the VT125 manual! My room mate at the time did a Rubick's cube demo on it for
DECUS.
-Steve
Regis first came out with one of the VT100 series terminals -- VT131? =
VT105? I forgot. It also showed up, in lobotomized form, in the "GIGI" =
(don't bother looking for one, they suck). It became more widespread in =
the VT240.
I'm pretty sure that a number of the X windows "xterm" style programs =
support it. Perhaps not the original xterm, but there are lots of =
extended versions and there should be some that handle this.
Sixel is probably more widely available since it's quite easy to =
implement.
paul
On Jul 16, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Cool - what real terminals support this stuff anyway, from what I can =
gather a VT340 works, right?
=20
Sampsa
=20
=20
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:24, Mark Wickens wrote:
=20
Attachmate Reflection (Windows package) has a specific application =
that
implements Regis graphics - I know - I bought version 14 recently and
gnuplot will happily draw to it when the terminal type is set regis.
=20
Mark.
=20
=20
ReGIS first came out with the VT125 in the early 80's. I may still even have
the VT125 manual! My room mate at the time did a Rubick's cube demo on it for
DECUS.
-Steve
Regis first came out with one of the VT100 series terminals -- VT131? =
VT105? I forgot. It also showed up, in lobotomized form, in the "GIGI" =
(don't bother looking for one, they suck). It became more widespread in =
the VT240.
I'm pretty sure that a number of the X windows "xterm" style programs =
support it. Perhaps not the original xterm, but there are lots of =
extended versions and there should be some that handle this.
Sixel is probably more widely available since it's quite easy to =
implement.
paul
On Jul 16, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Cool - what real terminals support this stuff anyway, from what I can =
gather a VT340 works, right?
=20
Sampsa
=20
=20
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:24, Mark Wickens wrote:
=20
Attachmate Reflection (Windows package) has a specific application =
that
implements Regis graphics - I know - I bought version 14 recently and
gnuplot will happily draw to it when the terminal type is set regis.
=20
Mark.
=20
=20
So sleek and modern... Especially when compared to the Honeywell terminals I used in the early 90's.
I've always lusted after a VT340+.
Does the VT525 support REGIS or SIXEL? It seems like the most practical terminal to buy at this point, since it can use a VGA monitor.
Zane
At 2:54 PM +0100 7/16/10, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I would LOVE to have a hardware terminal that did REGIS and SIXEL, it would look so cool and retro :)
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:51, Paul Koning wrote:
Regis first came out with one of the VT100 series terminals -- VT131? VT105? I forgot. It also showed up, in lobotomized form, in the "GIGI" (don't bother looking for one, they suck). It became more widespread in the VT240.
I'm pretty sure that a number of the X windows "xterm" style programs support it. Perhaps not the original xterm, but there are lots of extended versions and there should be some that handle this.
Sixel is probably more widely available since it's quite easy to implement.
paul
On Jul 16, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Cool - what real terminals support this stuff anyway, from what I can gather a VT340 works, right?
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:24, Mark Wickens wrote:
Attachmate Reflection (Windows package) has a specific application that
implements Regis graphics - I know - I bought version 14 recently and
gnuplot will happily draw to it when the terminal type is set regis.
Mark.
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I would LOVE to have a hardware terminal that did REGIS and SIXEL, it would look so cool and retro :)
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:51, Paul Koning wrote:
Regis first came out with one of the VT100 series terminals -- VT131? VT105? I forgot. It also showed up, in lobotomized form, in the "GIGI" (don't bother looking for one, they suck). It became more widespread in the VT240.
I'm pretty sure that a number of the X windows "xterm" style programs support it. Perhaps not the original xterm, but there are lots of extended versions and there should be some that handle this.
Sixel is probably more widely available since it's quite easy to implement.
paul
On Jul 16, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Cool - what real terminals support this stuff anyway, from what I can gather a VT340 works, right?
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:24, Mark Wickens wrote:
Attachmate Reflection (Windows package) has a specific application that
implements Regis graphics - I know - I bought version 14 recently and
gnuplot will happily draw to it when the terminal type is set regis.
Mark.
Regis first came out with one of the VT100 series terminals -- VT131? VT105? I forgot. It also showed up, in lobotomized form, in the "GIGI" (don't bother looking for one, they suck). It became more widespread in the VT240.
I'm pretty sure that a number of the X windows "xterm" style programs support it. Perhaps not the original xterm, but there are lots of extended versions and there should be some that handle this.
Sixel is probably more widely available since it's quite easy to implement.
paul
On Jul 16, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Cool - what real terminals support this stuff anyway, from what I can gather a VT340 works, right?
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:24, Mark Wickens wrote:
Attachmate Reflection (Windows package) has a specific application that
implements Regis graphics - I know - I bought version 14 recently and
gnuplot will happily draw to it when the terminal type is set regis.
Mark.
Also I demand a copy of VAXMULC.
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:41, Mark Wickens wrote:
On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 14:26 +0100, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Cool - what real terminals support this stuff anyway, from what I can
gather a VT340 works, right?
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:24, Mark Wickens wrote:
Attachmate Reflection (Windows package) has a specific application
that
implements Regis graphics - I know - I bought version 14 recently and
gnuplot will happily draw to it when the terminal type is set regis.
Mark.
If I remember correctly, VT340 is colour - I have a VT330 which is black
and white.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmrmj5y72kg
for a demo...
On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 14:26 +0100, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Cool - what real terminals support this stuff anyway, from what I can
gather a VT340 works, right?
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:24, Mark Wickens wrote:
Attachmate Reflection (Windows package) has a specific application
that
implements Regis graphics - I know - I bought version 14 recently and
gnuplot will happily draw to it when the terminal type is set regis.
Mark.
If I remember correctly, VT340 is colour - I have a VT330 which is black
and white.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmrmj5y72kg
for a demo...
Cool - what real terminals support this stuff anyway, from what I can gather a VT340 works, right?
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:24, Mark Wickens wrote:
Attachmate Reflection (Windows package) has a specific application that
implements Regis graphics - I know - I bought version 14 recently and
gnuplot will happily draw to it when the terminal type is set regis.
Mark.
Any chance of a, erm, loaned copy?
Sampsa
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:24, Mark Wickens wrote:
Attachmate Reflection (Windows package) has a specific application that
implements Regis graphics - I know - I bought version 14 recently and
gnuplot will happily draw to it when the terminal type is set regis.
Mark.
Attachmate Reflection (Windows package) has a specific application that
implements Regis graphics - I know - I bought version 14 recently and
gnuplot will happily draw to it when the terminal type is set regis.
Mark.