Yeah, he's either the ultimate troll or the next Star Wars Kid. I can't decide which is funnier.
Sampsa
On 13 Feb 2011, at 02:17, Joe Ferraro wrote:
We're safe... apparently the next generation uses Windows as platform of choice for "hacking". I wonder if any other operating systems come with "tracer tee"... HA!
(... hoping that this kid wasn't serious...)
We're safe... apparently the next generation uses Windows as platform of choice for "hacking". I wonder if any other operating systems come with "tracer tee"... HA!
(... hoping that this kid wasn't serious...)
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
You guys better check your firewalls in case this kid decides to try to hack you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXmv8quf_xM&feature=player_embedded
Sampsa
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
On 13 Feb 2011, at 01:29, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
I'm not particularly fond of YouTube, what is he (or it) planning on
doing that we should be worried about?
He's planning on taking over the world with his leet skillz. Actually, it's just a 12 year old kid making a total ass of himself, funny as hell.
Sampsa
Hello!
Typically, and by now. all crackers, (hacker in the insulting sense,
not what it normally means), are doing that. But okay.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On 13 Feb 2011, at 01:29, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
I'm not particularly fond of YouTube, what is he (or it) planning on
doing that we should be worried about?
He's planning on taking over the world with his leet skillz. Actually, it's just a 12 year old kid making a total ass of himself, funny as hell.
Sampsa
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
You guys better check your firewalls in case this kid decides to try to hack you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXmv8quf_xM&feature=player_embedded
Sampsa
Hello!
I'm not particularly fond of YouTube, what is he (or it) planning on
doing that we should be worried about?
--
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
I'm interested, since I can't seem to find my mirrored stuff anywhere.
I've got a bunch stashed on my system, but I don't think they're comprehensive. They may get you started in the meanwhile. Unfortunately, I'm not currently connected to HECnet. I had a misconfiguration in my router and my IP address has been wrong for months and I just discovered it.
I've since fixed it, but it may take a while before the other end of my DECnet-over-IP connection sees the correction. It's also possible that there may be a change I need to make on my end since I've been out of the loop for a while.
In the event that I do come back online, you can take a look at DUSTY::DUA0:[DOWNLOADS.OPENVMS] for what I've got.
--Marc
it seems that hp has killed the patch-site.
Has anybody mirrored them before the death?
For those who are into older stuff, I think I have a fair number of the
more interesting (to me anyway) patches for VAX/VMS 5.5-2 stashed somewhere.
I also probably have a small selection of AXP/VMS patches from the 7.1-2 sort
of time frame, maybe a few from earlier too.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
I've got plenty of web hosting space and bandwidth, happy to mirror anything for HECnet people...
Sampsa
On 12 Feb 2011, at 23:11, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
OK, tomorrow then (after 2100 UTC)
Verzonden vanaf mijn draadloze BlackBerry -toestel
From: Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 01:04:11 +0200
To: <hecnet at update.uu.se>
ReplyTo: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] VAX/VMS Patches mirror?
I'm interested, since I can't seem to find my mirrored stuff anywhere.
Thanks,
--saku
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:55 AM, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
Saku, I have VAX/VMS 7.3 patches but the most recent ones are at least a year old. If you're interested then I'll mail you a list tomorrow.
Hans
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OK, tomorrow then (after 2100 UTC)
Verzonden vanaf mijn draadloze BlackBerry -toestel
From: Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 01:04:11 +0200
To: <hecnet at update.uu.se>
ReplyTo: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] VAX/VMS Patches mirror?
I'm interested, since I can't seem to find my mirrored stuff anywhere.
Thanks,
--saku
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:55 AM, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
Saku, I have VAX/VMS 7.3 patches but the most recent ones are at least a year old. If you're interested then I'll mail you a list tomorrow.
Hans
Verzonden vanaf mijn draadloze BlackBerry -toestel
I'm interested, since I can't seem to find my mirrored stuff anywhere.
Thanks,
--saku
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:55 AM, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
Saku, I have VAX/VMS 7.3 patches but the most recent ones are at least a year old. If you're interested then I'll mail you a list tomorrow.
Hans
Verzonden vanaf mijn draadloze BlackBerry -toestel
Saku, I have VAX/VMS 7.3 patches but the most recent ones are at least a year old. If you're interested then I'll mail you a list tomorrow.
Hans
Verzonden vanaf mijn draadloze BlackBerry -toestel
From: Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 00:40:36 +0200
To: <hecnet at update.uu.se>
ReplyTo: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] VAX/VMS Patches mirror?
Thanks Hans, but my plan was to do a clean install from a 7.3 CD and then patch it up.
Now it does not seem useful. I think I should have mirrored patches from some years ago, but not the most recent stuff.
--Saku
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:18 AM, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
If you're in need of a specific patch, ask on comp.os.vms.
it seems hp is talking to Montager, no idea what the status is.
Hans
Thanks Hans, but my plan was to do a clean install from a 7.3 CD and then patch it up.
Now it does not seem useful. I think I should have mirrored patches from some years ago, but not the most recent stuff.
--Saku
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:18 AM, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
If you're in need of a specific patch, ask on comp.os.vms.
it seems hp is talking to Montager, no idea what the status is.
Hans
If you're in need of a specific patch, ask on comp.os.vms.
it seems hp is talking to Montager, no idea what the status is.
Hans
Verzonden vanaf mijn draadloze BlackBerry -toestel
From: Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 00:04:34 +0200
To: <hecnet at update.uu.se>
ReplyTo: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] VAX/VMS Patches mirror?
Hi all,
it seems that hp has killed the patch-site.
Has anybody mirrored them before the death?
Regards,
--Saku
those packet drivers, are probably the ones from
http://www.crynwr.com/ .... I had just recently 'ported' quake world
to MS-DOS using WATTCP & DJGPP, and it naturally called the crynwr
packet drivers... But I do remember back in the day using PCTCP and it
used the same drivers... Oh the wars of fighting with the SLIP & PPP
drivers....
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Simon Fryer <fryers at gmail.com> wrote:
Okay, replying to myself is bad form. But this has brought back many memories.
On 27/01/2011, Simon Fryer <fryers at gmail.com> wrote:
[about MS Kermit and the packet driver. ]
Did a little more reading.
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/mskoverview.html
and there is a link to the packet driver collection, as required to
provide the link to the physical hardware. However it seems as though
the file is no longer on the referred to http site.
Enjoy.
Simon
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to
philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is
the utility of the final product."
Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh
I _think_ the packet driver is just used for the TCP/IP stuff, at least installing one didn't help with the DECNET stuff, I think that might call the PATHWORKS drivers like Steve mentioned...
Sampsa
On 27 Jan 2011, at 03:55, Simon Fryer wrote:
Okay, replying to myself is bad form. But this has brought back many memories.
On 27/01/2011, Simon Fryer <fryers at gmail.com> wrote:
[about MS Kermit and the packet driver. ]
Did a little more reading.
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/mskoverview.html
and there is a link to the packet driver collection, as required to
provide the link to the physical hardware. However it seems as though
the file is no longer on the referred to http site.
Enjoy.
Simon
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to
philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is
the utility of the final product."
Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh
Okay, replying to myself is bad form. But this has brought back many memories.
On 27/01/2011, Simon Fryer <fryers at gmail.com> wrote:
[about MS Kermit and the packet driver. ]
Did a little more reading.
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/mskoverview.html
and there is a link to the packet driver collection, as required to
provide the link to the physical hardware. However it seems as though
the file is no longer on the referred to http site.
Enjoy.
Simon
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to
philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is
the utility of the final product."
Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh
Hi,
It has been a while since I set anything like this up and my memory is
a little hazy.
There was a driver library that provided a common interface to the
network cards, driven through interrupts. It provided access to the
data in the ethernet frames and not much more. I seemed to remember
having it working happily with NSCA Telnet and FTP for MS DOS. I can
not remember if I got it to work with MS Kermit. The driver software
was pretty simple to configure from memory, give it the I/O address,
hardware interrupt of the network card, software interrupt to use for
calling applications as arguments. Put the whole line in autoexec.bat
and forget about it.
A quick read of MS Kermit at
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/mskermit.html seems to indicate that MS
Kermit has it's own protocol stacks (which I seem to remember). I
would expect that MS Kermit contains enough of a LAT stack as well,
and that MS Kermit would be looking for a similar, interrupt driven,
interface.
At one point I may have had a backup copy of the driver software but I
am not going to have access to my MS DOS backups for a couple of
weeks.
[Local Area Transport for MS Kermit.]
Simon
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to
philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is
the utility of the final product."
Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Oh, so maybe the SuperLAT driver is some black magic that MS KERMIT uses to talk to the Windows driver - ugly but kinda cool...
Sampsa
On 27 Jan 2011, at 02:39, Jason Stevens wrote:
Otherwise, all you are going to find is in the internet wayback
machine... this stuff is as dead as disco.....
http://web.archive.org/web/19980117235914/www.meridiantc.com/PR_SLATGateway…
St. Louis, MO, December 1, 1997-
Meridian Technology Corporation announces the release of Version 2.0
of SuperLAT Gateway, a product that connects Windows NT-based networks
and Digital LAT networks.
Version 2.0 of SuperLAT Gateway is most appropriate for organizations
integrating Windows NT into a Digital LAT environment or those
eliminating their Digital VMS or UNIX systems entirely. It allows
LAT-based computers and peripheral devices to be used from an NT-based
network, as well as NT-based printers to be used from a LAT network.
New connectivity options let organizations preserve their hardware and
software investments by increasing the flexibility with which existing
computing resources may be used.
(etc etc)...
http://web.archive.org/web/19961110235243/www.meridiantc.com/SuperLAT_Win95…
SuperLAT for Windows 95 v3.0 Highlights
Connect Windows 95 users to Digital applications and peripheral devices
Capitalize on Windows 95 power
Use any 16-bit or 32-bit Windows terminal emulator
Share up to 256 printers across platforms
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Gentlemen, I was playing with MS Kermit 3.15 today (don't ask), and discovered it supports a rather amazing number of networking protocols including DECNET and something called "SuperLAT" - anyone have any experience of connecting to a DECNET host or LAT host with this?
Sampsa
Hello!
Sampsa, I am definitely not going to ask why, especially since I have
seen that one, no not yours, just the regular one.
However the websites referenced seem to be not at home properly..
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Oh, so maybe the SuperLAT driver is some black magic that MS KERMIT uses to talk to the Windows driver - ugly but kinda cool...
Sampsa
On 27 Jan 2011, at 02:39, Jason Stevens wrote:
Otherwise, all you are going to find is in the internet wayback
machine... this stuff is as dead as disco.....
http://web.archive.org/web/19980117235914/www.meridiantc.com/PR_SLATGateway…
St. Louis, MO, December 1, 1997-
Meridian Technology Corporation announces the release of Version 2.0
of SuperLAT Gateway, a product that connects Windows NT-based networks
and Digital LAT networks.
Version 2.0 of SuperLAT Gateway is most appropriate for organizations
integrating Windows NT into a Digital LAT environment or those
eliminating their Digital VMS or UNIX systems entirely. It allows
LAT-based computers and peripheral devices to be used from an NT-based
network, as well as NT-based printers to be used from a LAT network.
New connectivity options let organizations preserve their hardware and
software investments by increasing the flexibility with which existing
computing resources may be used.
(etc etc)...
http://web.archive.org/web/19961110235243/www.meridiantc.com/SuperLAT_Win95…
SuperLAT for Windows 95 v3.0 Highlights
Connect Windows 95 users to Digital applications and peripheral devices
Capitalize on Windows 95 power
Use any 16-bit or 32-bit Windows terminal emulator
Share up to 256 printers across platforms
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Gentlemen, I was playing with MS Kermit 3.15 today (don't ask), and discovered it supports a rather amazing number of networking protocols including DECNET and something called "SuperLAT" - anyone have any experience of connecting to a DECNET host or LAT host with this?
Sampsa
Otherwise, all you are going to find is in the internet wayback
machine... this stuff is as dead as disco.....
http://web.archive.org/web/19980117235914/www.meridiantc.com/PR_SLATGateway…
St. Louis, MO, December 1, 1997-
Meridian Technology Corporation announces the release of Version 2.0
of SuperLAT Gateway, a product that connects Windows NT-based networks
and Digital LAT networks.
Version 2.0 of SuperLAT Gateway is most appropriate for organizations
integrating Windows NT into a Digital LAT environment or those
eliminating their Digital VMS or UNIX systems entirely. It allows
LAT-based computers and peripheral devices to be used from an NT-based
network, as well as NT-based printers to be used from a LAT network.
New connectivity options let organizations preserve their hardware and
software investments by increasing the flexibility with which existing
computing resources may be used.
(etc etc)...
http://web.archive.org/web/19961110235243/www.meridiantc.com/SuperLAT_Win95…
SuperLAT for Windows 95 v3.0 Highlights
Connect Windows 95 users to Digital applications and peripheral devices
Capitalize on Windows 95 power
Use any 16-bit or 32-bit Windows terminal emulator
Share up to 256 printers across platforms
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Gentlemen, I was playing with MS Kermit 3.15 today (don't ask), and discovered it supports a rather amazing number of networking protocols including DECNET and something called "SuperLAT" - anyone have any experience of connecting to a DECNET host or LAT host with this?
Sampsa
It must have been a cross platform implementation....
check out this from a cisco router:
Router#show version
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-JS-L), Version 12.1(5), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-2000 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Wed 25-Oct-00 05:18 by cmong
Image text-base: 0x03071DB0, data-base: 0x00001000
ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 5.2(8a), RELEASE SOFTWARE
BOOTFLASH: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-RXBOOT), Version 10.2(8a),
RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Router uptime is 7 minutes
System returned to ROM by reload
System image file is "flash:c2500-js-l_121-5.bin"
cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision D) with 16384K/2048K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 03867477, with hardware revision 00000000
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
TN3270 Emulation software.
1 Token Ring/IEEE 802.5 interface(s)
2 Serial network interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)
Configuration register is 0x2102
I thought I remembered the term 'SuperLAT' from somewhere....
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Gentlemen, I was playing with MS Kermit 3.15 today (don't ask), and discovered it supports a rather amazing number of networking protocols including DECNET and something called "SuperLAT" - anyone have any experience of connecting to a DECNET host or LAT host with this?
Sampsa
You will need PathWorks for the DOS client end for LAT for it to work.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:18 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] MS Kermit DECNET stack? How?
Hmm, doesn't say much, however just saw this when booting up my Tru64
system:
"....
SuperLAT. Copyright 1994 Meridian Technology Corp. All rights reserved.
LAT started.
....
"
I guess it's some kind of LAT implementation for various OSes..Still no
idea how to set it up on DOS though :)
Sampsa
On 27 Jan 2011, at 01:49, Steve Davidson wrote:
Sampsa,
Take a look at this...
http://www.sourcedata.com/500/000517.html
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 7:03 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] MS Kermit DECNET stack? How?
Gentlemen, I was playing with MS Kermit 3.15 today (don't ask), and
discovered it supports a rather amazing number of networking protocols
including DECNET and something called "SuperLAT" - anyone have any
experience of connecting to a DECNET host or LAT host with this?
Sampsa
Hmm, doesn't say much, however just saw this when booting up my Tru64 system:
"....
SuperLAT. Copyright 1994 Meridian Technology Corp. All rights reserved.
LAT started.
....
"
I guess it's some kind of LAT implementation for various OSes..Still no idea how to set it up on DOS though :)
Sampsa
On 27 Jan 2011, at 01:49, Steve Davidson wrote:
Sampsa,
Take a look at this...
http://www.sourcedata.com/500/000517.html
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 7:03 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] MS Kermit DECNET stack? How?
Gentlemen, I was playing with MS Kermit 3.15 today (don't ask), and
discovered it supports a rather amazing number of networking protocols
including DECNET and something called "SuperLAT" - anyone have any
experience of connecting to a DECNET host or LAT host with this?
Sampsa
Sampsa,
Take a look at this...
http://www.sourcedata.com/500/000517.html
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Sampsa Laine
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 7:03 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] MS Kermit DECNET stack? How?
Gentlemen, I was playing with MS Kermit 3.15 today (don't ask), and
discovered it supports a rather amazing number of networking protocols
including DECNET and something called "SuperLAT" - anyone have any
experience of connecting to a DECNET host or LAT host with this?
Sampsa
