Sampsa,
I believe you can
SYSBOOT> SET STARTUP_P1 ""
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
to clear the flags...
Joe
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
How do I do this on an Itanium?
Sampsa
On 23 Aug 2011, at 19:58, Steve Davidson wrote:
> Sampsa,
>
> Clear the boot flags.
>
> -Steve
>
>
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> Subject: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600
>
> I've somehow managed to make my rx2600's VMS boot give me a SYSBOOT>
> prompt every damn time.
>
> How do I turn this off?
>
> Sampsa
>
>
How do I do this on an Itanium?
Sampsa
On 23 Aug 2011, at 19:58, Steve Davidson wrote:
Sampsa,
Clear the boot flags.
-Steve
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Subject: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600
I've somehow managed to make my rx2600's VMS boot give me a SYSBOOT>
prompt every damn time.
How do I turn this off?
Sampsa
Sampsa,
Clear the boot flags.
-Steve
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Subject: [HECnet] How to turn off SYSBOOT> prompt on rx2600
I've somehow managed to make my rx2600's VMS boot give me a SYSBOOT>
prompt every damn time.
How do I turn this off?
Sampsa
On the original question...
Please see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_8-inch_floppy_formats
I'd say that this drive "can" be hooked to for example a VAX, even though it would be more easy to use a PDP-11.
When the interface gets ready and a driver software is written, this would enable reading of IBM-diskettes with their data/code ;-)
I'd doubt that DEC-diskettes (RX01 or RX02) could be used, but that might be me being just a little to negative...
One important question might be if this type of drive uses soft or hard sectors. (Soft means one index hole per revolution, hard means one per sector, ie often like 16/rev. IBM often used the latter in their consoles for 370 etc.
But I can't really remember if this is actually taken care of by the drive or by the controller - I'd guess controller actually. That means this drive might be successfully interfaced using for example an RXV21. One issue might be that DEC is stated to use 77 tracks, the IBM says "usable tracks 74" - question is how many tracks the stepper motor actually has accessible by other mechanics - possibly, this might be more of a media concern.
Myself, If access to an 8" floppy for DEC-equipment is wanted, I'd go for either true RX02 (though the drive is quite bulky), or a true 3:d party driver, like BASF, possibly Fujitsu etc. Myself, I've got a couple of double drives 8" 1/2-height (about 1 1/2") neatly packed side by side in an 19" 1he unit that used to be connected to a micro-vax.
In my opinion, IBM hardware is often "odd", big blue was big enough not to care for industrial standards, and is therefore at the best my second choice...
Happy computing, anyway!
/G ran
On 2011-08-23 19:08, Sampsa Laine wrote:
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The PDP-11/40 in the lab also had a TU56. When I wanted to copy between RK05 packs I ran RT-11 from DECtape. The TU56 was/is block addressable and behaves like a disk. Like the TU58, which was in all other respects pretty much a disaster. The total amount of time spent waiting by 750 and 730 system managers during a VMS upgrade must be staggering. Definitely a low point for the hardware designers. Was I glad that the 750 eventually learned to boot directly off an RA device!
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Oh no. A TU58 is a joke device that connects via a UART; the driver for it is a pile of software that speaks a packet protocol over that UART to send/receive the data.
The TU56 is a classic PDP-11 style DMA device, hooked to a Unibus interface. It looks somewhat like an old style disk interface (like the RK05 or RP04) except that you first had to seek to the required block number (by doing read block number operations until the right number shows up). Also, a TU56 is reliable, unlike a TU58.
Oh no. A TU58 is a joke device that connects via a UART; the driver for it is a pile of software that speaks a packet protocol over that UART to send/receive the data.
The TU56 is a classic PDP-11 style DMA device, hooked to a Unibus interface. It looks somewhat like an old style disk interface (like the RK05 or RP04) except that you first had to seek to the required block number (by doing read block number operations until the right number shows up). Also, a TU56 is reliable, unlike a TU58.
Interesting, that a TU56 was supported by VMS. How did that become possible? Is it because the driver for the TU58 also happened to work for the TU56, possibly assisted by some SYSGEN magic to configure UB vector and addresses?
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I can't remember whether the RK05 was supported by VMS?
No, not AFAIK but the RL02 (either on an RL11 or the RB730) was.
But did it work? There were some strange old devices that worked on VMS even though not "supported" -- the TU56 (real DECtape) comes to mind.
paul
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The TU56 driver was always unsupported, but RX02s and RL02s were
officially supported and worked just fine.
Bob
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I can't remember whether the RK05 was supported by VMS?
No, not AFAIK but the RL02 (either on an RL11 or the RB730) was.
But did it work? There were some strange old devices that worked on VMS
even though not "supported" -- the TU56 (real DECtape) comes to mind.
paul
I can't remember whether the RK05 was supported by VMS?
No, not AFAIK but the RL02 (either on an RL11 or the RB730) was.
But did it work? There were some strange old devices that worked on VMS even though not "supported" -- the TU56 (real DECtape) comes to mind.
paul
You'd need. MC SYSGEN CONNECT CONSOLE to make that happen.
True, but having done that you could access it from VMS just fine. Ditto
for the TU58 drives that were used as console media on the 730 and 750.
Directly connected UNIBUS RX02 drives showed up under VMS as the DYA0/1
devices as you'd expect.
I can't remember whether the RK05 was supported by VMS?
No, not AFAIK but the RL02 (either on an RL11 or the RB730) was.
Bob
The console RX02 on the 780 wasn't "visible" to VMS. You'd need. MC SYSGEN CONNECT CONSOLE to make that happen. I used a PDP-11/40 with RX02's but never actually seen such an interface on a VAX unibus. Very useful to transfer data between systems; this was before ethernet was common, let alone affordable. An alternative was the RL02. Which became the load device for the PDP-11/23 console in the 8600/8650.
I can't remember whether the RK05 was supported by VMS?
Hans
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Correct, an RX02 floppy with a formatted capacity of 512 kB IIRC.
Absolutely, on the 11/03 CFE. And any of the UNIBUS VAXen (730, 750, 780,
etc) would directly support an RX01/02 on an RX211 interface. Such
combinations were not unusual and were supported by VMS. I've got a 11/730
with an RX02 drive in the garage. Likewise any of the BI bus VAXen with a
UBA could at least in theory do the same, though by that time 8" floppies
were uncommon.
Bob
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Correct, an RX02 floppy with a formatted capacity of 512 kB IIRC.
Absolutely, on the 11/03 CFE. And any of the UNIBUS VAXen (730, 750, 780,
etc) would directly support an RX01/02 on an RX211 interface. Such
combinations were not unusual and were supported by VMS. I've got a 11/730
with an RX02 drive in the garage. Likewise any of the BI bus VAXen with a
UBA could at least in theory do the same, though by that time 8" floppies
were uncommon.
Bob
Correct, an RX02 floppy with a formatted capacity of 512 kB IIRC.
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Verzonden: 23 augustus 2011 19:11
Hm... didn't the 780 use an 8 inch floppy for console boot device?
paul
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Hm... didn't the 780 use an 8 inch floppy for console boot device?
paul
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Hey. I said ignore :D
On the more serious side, Perl was update on the mailserver and
majordomo uses some deprecated Perl features. I've dusted off my old
Perl-hat and fixed some issues, looks like I got something right :)
Hopefully this should keep us going for some time before we kick
majordomo out the door.
Mails sent during the downtime (a handfull) is lost (it seems).
Let me know if something else needs fixing.
Regards,
Pontus.
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 08:28:48AM +0100, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Got it here - is the list up again? Woohoo.
D
On 23 Aug 2011, at 08:22, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
Test - please ignore
Sampsa,
Remember, Multinet uses UDP port 700 for the tunnels.
-Steve
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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 21:38
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] Weird question: Does anybody chow the external IP
address on GORVAX?
Had to replace my router today and lost a lot of port forwarding data
with it.
Anyway, if anyone who regularly connects to GORVAX (say for multinet), I
would appreciate the info
Samosa
On 14.8.2011 21:17, Gregg Levine wrote:
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Sampsa Laine<sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
How is this done? Googling is fruitless....
Hello!
Sadly it was never properly documented online, they left it to the few
paper manuals on the subject. What happened? Explain to us what
happened and why these problems surfaced.
-----
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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
.
There are two ways to do it.
Physically pressing the reset button which is located in the back of the rx2600.
Using the console interface by the command XD.
Kari
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
How is this done? Googling is fruitless....
Hello!
Sadly it was never properly documented online, they left it to the few
paper manuals on the subject. What happened? Explain to us what
happened and why these problems surfaced.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Good point. Can't be arsed now, ripped it out of the rack for more space.
Now I havea Cycclades TS 3000 I am trying to factory default. Which is non-trivial.
On 14 Aug 2011, at 17:45, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2011-08-14 14.15, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Guys,
Back for ages my DECSERVER used to boot up using someone's MOP box in Sweden I believe;
This is no longer the case, and this being my only console access to RHESUS i would appreciate some instructions on how to set up this soft-downline-loading setup (and possibly the necessary binaries).
Hmm, have you (or I) turned off MOP then? Otherwise you should still be able to boot your DECserver from me.
Johnny
On 2011-08-14 14.15, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Guys,
Back for ages my DECSERVER used to boot up using someone's MOP box in Sweden I believe;
This is no longer the case, and this being my only console access to RHESUS i would appreciate some instructions on how to set up this soft-downline-loading setup (and possibly the necessary binaries).
Hmm, have you (or I) turned off MOP then? Otherwise you should still be able to boot your DECserver from me.
Johnny