On 11-08-30 05:25 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
More than perfect.
I'll paypal you next tiime my contract employee decide to :)
Can't get to it until tomorrow evening - the cable's elsewhere, but I'll retrieve it tomorrow.
Phil
Dear All,
I'm in need of some suggestions to improve DECnet performance of a TOPS-10
monitor running on KLH10. I'd like a lot to hear from you even if you do not
know or run that specific system or configuration.
When used locally at the CTY (Console terminal), the system response is very
fast and smooth, so I'd tend to exclude emulator problems and such. Instead,
when used from a remotely connected terminal (e.g. from VMS via SET HOST),
it appears very sluggish: single character echo is very poor and output from
the system fits and starts all the time. Output from programs is very fast
for some hundreds lines, then stops briefly, then again appears almost
instantly, and so on, like in bursts.
Anyway, while the overall bulk data performance can be considered absolutely
acceptable, the char-by-char responsiveness, e.g. typing interactive
commands at the monitor prompt, is horrible: I type "D", "I", "R", and
nothing happens, then I type "E" and "DIRE" suddenly appears...
The TOPS-10 system has plenty of free core (both virtual and physical), free
disk space, and free CPU, so it shouldn't be an OS issue in itself.
Probably the most likely cause of this problem lies in some DECnet parameter
that needs some tweaking, but I do not know which one... Have you ever had
any experience with some ancient Digital OS having poor DECnet performance
as described? And how did you solve that, or at least improve it?
Here are some (maybe) interesting bits:
Request # 1; Show Executor Node Characteristics Completed
Executor Node = 1.1010 (DIECI)
Identification = DECnet-10 Version 4.0
Management Version = 4.0.0
Loop Count = 1
Loop Length = 127
Loop With = Mixed
Incoming Timer = 30
Outgoing Timer = 60
NSP Version = 4.0.0
Maximum Links = 65535
Delay Factor = 48
Delay Weight = 10
Inactivity Timer = 120
Retransmit Factor = 10
Routing Version = 2.0.0
Type = Nonrouting IV
Routing Timer = 600
Broadcast Routing Timer = 40
Maximum Address = 1023
Maximum Circuits = 20
Maximum Cost = 100
Maximum Hops = 16
Maximum Visits = 20
Maximum Broadcast Nonrouters = 64
Maximum Broadcast Routers = 32
Maximum Buffers = 80
Buffer Size = 576
Segment Buffer Size = 576
Request # 5; Show Line Characteristics Completed
Line = ETH-0
Receive Buffers = 6
Controller = Normal
Protocol = Ethernet
Hardware Address = AA 00 04 00 F2 07
Receive buffer size = 576
Request # 7; Show Circuit Characteristics Completed
Circuit = ETH-0
Cost = 1
Maximum Routers = 16
Router Priority = 5
Hello Timer = 90
Type = Ethernet
I'll be grateful for any suggestion! :)
G.
On 11-08-30 03:20 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
If you were to say crimp me a few a (3-4) of them, I would of course compensate by a Paypal payment to be used only for bottles of win of say over 30 euros?
Are 3 wire sufficient? Most of the ones I make, I only end up doing RX, TX, and GND, but I can do the handshaking lines if you want. The cable I have most of is 6 wire, but it's solid conductor, like telephone wire. Works well enough for these speeds/installations, though.
To be clear, let's agree on the cable specs:
MMJ - MMJ
RX, TX, GND
6' (2m) long enough?
Qty 4
As for $$, I find your suggestion ambiguous. (If you sent me 5Eu and told me to spend it on a 30Eu bottle of wine, it would fit.) So how about $25 Canadian + postage?
Before we get too excited, I'd better locate the connectors. Will confirm.
Cheers,
Phil
On 11-08-30 12:39 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Or other sane mechanism for getting a graphical console up on an AS800?
I want to add some controllers and drives to CHIMPY?
My server is not apparently getting along with the HECnet list.
I have a couple of dozen MMJ connectors in the shop, I believe. I could send you some, or we can talk about making up a cable. (I'd rather not be without my MMJ crimping tool.)
Best,
Phil
On 29/08/11 22:10, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
You mean
$ set time/cluster
or
$ mc sysgen
Set env/cluster
Do set time=new time
?
Yes,
There is a script given:
$ SYNCH_CLOCKS:
$ RUN SYS$SYSTEM:SYSMAN
$ SET ENVIRONMENT/CLUSTER
$ CONFIGURATION SET TIME
$ EXIT
$ WAIT 6:00:00
$ GOTO SYNCH_CLOCKS
Seems like a sensible thing to do in a clustered environment.
Regards, Mark.
Bind sets are hell to restore. Which is probably why Hoff is against them.
A RAID controller is a good idea: form shadow sets and stripe them. The Mylex 960 series can handdle RAID volumes up to 36 GB (IIRC). So you'd need another controller. Not all controllers are supported b VMS, e.g.: kZPCC.
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On 29-8-2011 18:59, Mark Wickens wrote:
Anyone tried bound volume sets? I want 70GBs worth of data to appear
in one VMS device, but only have 36GB drives, so would like to span
data across two disks and form a logical drive.
Just wondered if anyone had any thoughts - Hoff seemed to think it was
a bad thing to try/do.
What about using a hardware RAID controller, a la Smart Array? (If it
is an AlphaServer or Integrity system of course, in this case.) I use
an SA6400 successfully to do that, in one of my rx2600s.
- MG
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You mean
$ set time/cluster
or
$ mc sysgen
Set env/cluster
Do set time=new time
?
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On 28/08/11 21:39, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
I forgot $ sho ti.
Which tells you what the system tme is
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Noob question: Changing the Time Zone on my VMS boxes?
Verzonden: 28 augustus 2011 20:41
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:35:28 +0100, you wrote:
How do I change the time zone of a VMS box?
$ @SYS$MANAGER:UTC$TIME_SETUP :-)
Then you may also do the following:
$ @SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$DEFINE_COMMANDS
$ NTPDATE<ntp.server.of.your.choice>
HTH,
G.
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I happened to be reading the SYSMAN manual earlier (as you do) and
noticed there is a command to synchronise time between boxes across a
network cluster.
Just one of those snippets of info that might be of interest now (or
sometime in the future).
Regards, Mark.
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On 28/08/11 21:39, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
I forgot $ sho ti.
Which tells you what the system tme is
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Noob question: Changing the Time Zone on my VMS boxes?
Verzonden: 28 augustus 2011 20:41
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:35:28 +0100, you wrote:
How do I change the time zone of a VMS box?
$ @SYS$MANAGER:UTC$TIME_SETUP :-)
Then you may also do the following:
$ @SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$DEFINE_COMMANDS
$ NTPDATE<ntp.server.of.your.choice>
HTH,
G.
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I happened to be reading the SYSMAN manual earlier (as you do) and noticed there is a command to synchronise time between boxes across a network cluster.
Just one of those snippets of info that might be of interest now (or sometime in the future).
Regards, Mark.
On 29-8-2011 18:59, Mark Wickens wrote:
Anyone tried bound volume sets? I want 70GBs worth of data to appear in one VMS device, but only have 36GB drives, so would like to span data across two disks and form a logical drive.
Just wondered if anyone had any thoughts - Hoff seemed to think it was a bad thing to try/do.
What about using a hardware RAID controller, a la Smart Array? (If it
is an AlphaServer or Integrity system of course, in this case.) I use
an SA6400 successfully to do that, in one of my rx2600s.
- MG
I forgot $ sho ti.
Which tells you what the system tme is
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Noob question: Changing the Time Zone on my VMS boxes?
Verzonden: 28 augustus 2011 20:41
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:35:28 +0100, you wrote:
How do I change the time zone of a VMS box?
$ @SYS$MANAGER:UTC$TIME_SETUP :-)
Then you may also do the following:
$ @SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$DEFINE_COMMANDS
$ NTPDATE <ntp.server.of.your.choice>
HTH,
G.
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And perhaps you need to change the actual time on the system:
$ set time="28-AUG-2011"
$ set time="21:36"
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Noob question: Changing the Time Zone on my VMS boxes?
Verzonden: 28 augustus 2011 20:41
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:35:28 +0100, you wrote:
How do I change the time zone of a VMS box?
$ @SYS$MANAGER:UTC$TIME_SETUP :-)
Then you may also do the following:
$ @SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$DEFINE_COMMANDS
$ NTPDATE <ntp.server.of.your.choice>
HTH,
G.
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:35:28 +0100, you wrote:
How do I change the time zone of a VMS box?
$ @SYS$MANAGER:UTC$TIME_SETUP :-)
Then you may also do the following:
$ @SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$DEFINE_COMMANDS
$ NTPDATE <ntp.server.of.your.choice>
HTH,
G.
Having (with some difficulty) connected GORVAX and RHESUS to an Arcsight log monitoring beast (think SAP meets Splunk) I notice all my events' end times are off by a consistent number of hours..
I believe this is due to the time zone info (which I never bothered to look into) being wrong.
How do I change the time zone of a VMS box?
Sampsa
I have the VMS 7.3 for VAX, what I don't have are the patches.
-Steve
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Do you need a copy of the 7.3 cd?
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How about pulling down VMS 7.3 for VAX?
-Steve
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Subject: [HECnet] DECUS/freeware archive
Jur has just posted back my hard drive with his entire DECUS & freeware
archive - hopefully I can make this available to the HECnet community in
its entirety via the magic of decnet...
I'm also trying to sort out my HP patch database access, so if there are
any requests feel free to ask. I am planning on pulling down all patches
for OpenVMS VAX 7.3.1, Alpha 8.3 and IA64 8.3-1H1.
Regards, Mark.
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Do you need a copy of the 7.3 cd?
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How about pulling down VMS 7.3 for VAX?
-Steve
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Subject: [HECnet] DECUS/freeware archive
Jur has just posted back my hard drive with his entire DECUS & freeware
archive - hopefully I can make this available to the HECnet community in
its entirety via the magic of decnet...
I'm also trying to sort out my HP patch database access, so if there are
any requests feel free to ask. I am planning on pulling down all patches
for OpenVMS VAX 7.3.1, Alpha 8.3 and IA64 8.3-1H1.
Regards, Mark.
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How about pulling down VMS 7.3 for VAX?
-Steve
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Subject: [HECnet] DECUS/freeware archive
Jur has just posted back my hard drive with his entire DECUS & freeware
archive - hopefully I can make this available to the HECnet community in
its entirety via the magic of decnet...
I'm also trying to sort out my HP patch database access, so if there are
any requests feel free to ask. I am planning on pulling down all patches
for OpenVMS VAX 7.3.1, Alpha 8.3 and IA64 8.3-1H1.
Regards, Mark.
Xenophobia is not the same as lack of experience. The VMS development team in the USA is extinct. The guys in India are first rate software engineers (they ought to be to find their way in the VMS codebase) but their perspective on how the os should behave and what they observe is markedly different. Read the discussion in comp.os.vms on changes in the DIRECTORY command.
The Indian team made changes that are probably more in line with newer commands but broke old code that had been stable for decades.
The bottomline is that I expect my alphas to stay on 8.3, probably as long as the VAXes will remain on 7.3.
I have no IA64 systems (luckily, reading Sampsas problems :-) so no ideas there other than that IA64/VMS 8.3 is the production quality release at this point in time.
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On 24/08/11 18:28, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
Mark,
If you still have access to the HP patch database then I'd suggest these OS versions:
VAX/VMS 7.3
Alpha/VMS. 7.3.
7.3-2
8.3
8.4
IA64/VMS. 8.3
8.4
TCP/IP : all versions -please-
The reasoning behind the VMS versions is simple. The AXP variants are the "stable" ones, though I have my doubts regarding 8.4. I guess that 7.3-2 and 8.3 cover a substantial fraction of all hobbyist sites.
Hobbyists with a VAX run everything for fun but if the VAX is still used for serious work it'll run 7.3.
I'm clueless about what is en vogue in Itanium land.
Personally I'd like to install the latest patches for the IP stack.
Hans
Hans,
I'll bear your comments in mind thanks...
When I spoke to Stephen Hoffman about which version of Alpha OpenVMS to
install I was told to stick to 8.3 unless I wanted to get into a large
amount of patching. I think the quality of 8.4 probably reflects the
wholesale move of OpenVMS development from the USA to India. Please
don't take that as xenophobia - merely a reflection on the loss of a
good deal of long-time VMS talent. Hopefully future releases will
benefit from the increasing knowledge of the new team.
IA64 VMS, AFAIK, is a similar scenario.
Regards, Mark
On 24/08/11 18:28, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
Mark,
If you still have access to the HP patch database then I'd suggest these OS versions:
VAX/VMS 7.3
Alpha/VMS. 7.3.
7.3-2
8.3
8.4
IA64/VMS. 8.3
8.4
TCP/IP : all versions -please-
The reasoning behind the VMS versions is simple. The AXP variants are the "stable" ones, though I have my doubts regarding 8.4. I guess that 7.3-2 and 8.3 cover a substantial fraction of all hobbyist sites.
Hobbyists with a VAX run everything for fun but if the VAX is still used for serious work it'll run 7.3.
I'm clueless about what is en vogue in Itanium land.
Personally I'd like to install the latest patches for the IP stack.
Hans
Hans,
I'll bear your comments in mind thanks...
When I spoke to Stephen Hoffman about which version of Alpha OpenVMS to install I was told to stick to 8.3 unless I wanted to get into a large amount of patching. I think the quality of 8.4 probably reflects the wholesale move of OpenVMS development from the USA to India. Please don't take that as xenophobia - merely a reflection on the loss of a good deal of long-time VMS talent. Hopefully future releases will benefit from the increasing knowledge of the new team.
IA64 VMS, AFAIK, is a similar scenario.
Regards, Mark
Mark,
If you still have access to the HP patch database then I'd suggest these OS versions:
VAX/VMS 7.3
Alpha/VMS. 7.3.
7.3-2
8.3
8.4
IA64/VMS. 8.3
8.4
TCP/IP : all versions -please-
The reasoning behind the VMS versions is simple. The AXP variants are the "stable" ones, though I have my doubts regarding 8.4. I guess that 7.3-2 and 8.3 cover a substantial fraction of all hobbyist sites.
Hobbyists with a VAX run everything for fun but if the VAX is still used for serious work it'll run 7.3.
I'm clueless about what is en vogue in Itanium land.
Personally I'd like to install the latest patches for the IP stack.
Hans
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Verzonden: 24 augustus 2011 18:31
Jur has just posted back my hard drive with his entire DECUS & freeware
archive - hopefully I can make this available to the HECnet community in
its entirety via the magic of decnet...
I'm also trying to sort out my HP patch database access, so if there are
any requests feel free to ask. I am planning on pulling down all patches
for OpenVMS VAX 7.3.1, Alpha 8.3 and IA64 8.3-1H1.
Regards, Mark.
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Jur has just posted back my hard drive with his entire DECUS & freeware archive - hopefully I can make this available to the HECnet community in its entirety via the magic of decnet...
I'm also trying to sort out my HP patch database access, so if there are any requests feel free to ask. I am planning on pulling down all patches for OpenVMS VAX 7.3.1, Alpha 8.3 and IA64 8.3-1H1.
Regards, Mark.
On 2011-08-24 03:01, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote:
A bit surprised, since the RX01 is a really small device, and squeezing in RT-11, in addition to VMB, as a bare minimum needed for a system, is something of a miracle.
RT-11 could fit on tiny things. I remember V2 fitting with lots of room to spare on a DECnet (TU56 -- 578 kbytes). And if memory serves I could fit in (SJ flavor) along with Basic on an RC11 (128 kbytes), on our Physics department 11/20.
Yes, but VMB takes quite some space, and an RX01 is only 256 Kbytes...
Johnny
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A bit surprised, since the RX01 is a really small device, and squeezing in RT-11, in addition to VMB, as a bare minimum needed for a system, is something of a miracle.
RT-11 could fit on tiny things. I remember V2 fitting with lots of room to spare on a DECnet (TU56 -- 578 kbytes). And if memory serves I could fit in (SJ flavor) along with Basic on an RC11 (128 kbytes), on our Physics department 11/20.
paul
RK06/RK07 were supported on the VAX-11/780. I used them at DEC in Parker St., Maynard, MA in 1980.
-Steve
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On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2011-08-23 19:41, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
I can't remember whether the RK05 was supported by VMS?
I don't think it was. Neither was the RK06/RK07, but I believe it shipped with a driver for those.
Johnny
I think it was a DECUS submitted driver.
RK06/RK07's were supported at one time on the RK611 IIRC.
I think they were on the first 11/780's back in the late '70's. Minimum 11/780 config I saw on DECnotes at one time was an RK06/RK07 with 128MB of Memory used for minimum price Vax sales.
Never saw real ones in the field with smaller disks than an RM03 as the main disk.
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Johnny,
Remember that we are talking about 1977-1980 (or so) with version 3x.
RT-11 with a few drivers and utilities fits just fine on an RX01. While
not very fast it was so much better than the TU-58!
-Steve
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On 2011-08-24 02:21, Steve Davidson wrote:
I'm sure.
A bit surprised, since the RX01 is a really small device, and squeezing
in RT-11, in addition to VMB, as a bare minimum needed for a system, is
something of a miracle.
Hmm, do anyone have an RX01 image for the VAX-11/78x available online?
Johnny
-Steve
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On 2011-08-24 01:45, Steve Davidson wrote:
It is a RX01. The front end runs RT-11 on an 11/03.
Are you sure about the RT-11 part? I think it just used the RT-11 file
system, but the actual thing running inside was something small and
dedicated.
The 86x0 machines FE runs RT-11, however. You can even get into the
RT-11 environment on the machine, and use the RT-11 programs in there.
Johnny
-Steve
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On 2011-08-23 19:16, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
Correct, an RX02 floppy with a formatted capacity of 512 kB IIRC.
Hmm. I thought it was an RX01. Capacity, however, is 128K for RX01
and
256K for RX02.
Johnny
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Verzonden: 23 augustus 2011 19:11
Hm... didn't the 780 use an 8 inch floppy for console boot device?
paul
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