Brian, is RIFTER a phase V node? NCP set exec node RIFTER doesn't work, even
when I jump to SG1 first.
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens
Brian Hechinger
Verzonden: woensdag, december 2011 20:56
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs - Area 19 revised
1 - Area 52 (RIFTER 52.2 Level-II (AREA) router) (and currently only
machine here so far)
2 - 2 tunnels
3 - bart.4amlunch.net (216.15.64.181)
4 - tunnel circuits
tcp-0-19 - SG1:: 69.21.253.230
tcp-0-33 - FRUGAL:: 72.240.216.74
On 12/28/2011 12:38 PM, Steve Davidson wrote:
I agree! It certainly makes sense to use LEGATO as the other US hub.
It is on the other side of the country and has similar characteristics -
namely Multinet and bridge connections, plus static IP address(es).
I would also like to offer up RIFTER if needed. The caveat there is that until I get new batteries for my one UPS the host that RIFTER runs on can be unstable due to power blips. Not that they happen often.
I hope to get SUN up and running sometime soon as well as that has better overall internet connectivity as well as UPS/generator backup as it's in a proper datacenter.
If it matters, connectivity is as follows:
Home - 60mbit down, 6mbit up, static IP
Colo - 100mbit down, 100mbit up, static IP
-brian
I agree! It certainly makes sense to use LEGATO as the other US hub.
It is on the other side of the country and has similar characteristics -
namely Multinet and bridge connections, plus static IP address(es).
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:56 AM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Circuit costs
looks like we could use another big US "hub" just in case.
You can use LEGATO - half the machines connected to SG1 are also
connected to that (or conversely, there's only about 3 or 4 machines
that aren't connected to LEGATO).
BTW, area 59 is also connected to LEGATO - that got left out of the
map somehow.
What's with area 4? It doesn't have any connection...
Bob
P.S. Nice map - thanks! Hmmm... Somebody could write a DCL script to
crawl the network and output the connection data in CSV format, and then
the map could be updated "automatically".
The problem with area 4 is that it is missing Multinet since the change
from BUBBLE:: to SLAVE::. It is on my todo list to fix.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:56 AM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Circuit costs
looks like we could use another big US "hub" just in case.
You can use LEGATO - half the machines connected to SG1 are also
connected to that (or conversely, there's only about 3 or 4 machines
that aren't connected to LEGATO).
BTW, area 59 is also connected to LEGATO - that got left out of the
map somehow.
What's with area 4? It doesn't have any connection...
Bob
P.S. Nice map - thanks! Hmmm... Somebody could write a DCL script to
crawl the network and output the connection data in CSV format, and then
the map could be updated "automatically".
looks like we could use another big US "hub" just in case.
You can use LEGATO - half the machines connected to SG1 are also connected
to that (or conversely, there's only about 3 or 4 machines that aren't
connected to LEGATO).
BTW, area 59 is also connected to LEGATO - that got left out of the map
somehow.
What's with area 4? It doesn't have any connection...
Bob
P.S. Nice map - thanks! Hmmm... Somebody could write a DCL script to
crawl the network and output the connection data in CSV format, and then the
map could be updated "automatically".
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
1 - area #
2 - connection type (bridge program, Multinet tunnel, phase 5 over DeC IP stack, what have you)
3 - your IP address as used on Dec 27th
4 - IP address you connect to.
1: Area 33
2: Multinet tunnel(s)
3: thrifty.misernet.net (resolves to 72.240.216.74 currently)
4:
TCP-0-19 Area 19 69.21.253.230
TCP-0-52 Area 52 216.15.64.181
TCP-8-0 Area 8 188.220.63.6
Based on what I saw with Steve's email it almost looks like we could use another big US "hub" just in case. Either that or I need to donate a battery to Steve's UPS's ... ;)
Fred
Thanks,Rok. Here's the updated map
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Rok
Vidmar
Verzonden: woensdag, december 2011 13:11
Aan: hecnet at update.uu.se
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs
All list members send me the following information:
1 - area #
2 - connection type (bridge program, Multinet tunnel, phase 5 over DeC IP
stack, what have you)
3 - your IP address as used on Dec 27th
4 - IP address you connect to.
1 - 3
2 - Multinet tunnel
3 - 193.2.191.211 (NUK1C), 193.2.191.212 (RVDSXL)
4 - 188.220.63.6 (GORVAX), 69.21.253.230 (SG1)
--
Regards, Rok
All list members send me the following information:
1 - area #
2 - connection type (bridge program, Multinet tunnel, phase 5 over DeC IP stack, what have you)
3 - your IP address as used on Dec 27th
4 - IP address you connect to.
1 - 3
2 - Multinet tunnel
3 - 193.2.191.211 (NUK1C), 193.2.191.212 (RVDSXL)
4 - 188.220.63.6 (GORVAX), 69.21.253.230 (SG1)
--
Regards, Rok
I had a series of power outages yesterday so my segment of Area 6 is currently down.
Will get it up and running again after work today.
Chrissie, I still need to open that UDP port for the area MultiNet bridge - I was going to do it when everything went off last night and as I went to eat dinner then had to deal with something else it never got sorted out.
--
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http://markbenson.org/bloghttp://twitter.com/MDBenson
WOW!
Now that's scary! SG1::'s UPS better NOT fail! :-)
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of H Vlems
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 6:16 AM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Circuit costs
OK, the spreadsheet contains the information I've got so far.
Rok, would you kindly send me your area properties?
Hans,
Marc's only connection is to my network, area 19, via Multinet.
DUSTY::"s address is 19.301. In my listing the circuit is "TCP-0-0".
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of H Vlems
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 5:45 AM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Circuit costs
Marc,
do you use the bridge program?
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens
Marc Chametzky
Verzonden: woensdag, december 2011 3:03
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
CC: Bob Armstrong
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs
defunct, no longer active, tunnels (are any of these people still
around??)
DUSTY:: (Marc ??)
I'm still around, but I had lost my connection to you (I think due to
firewall issues on my end), and far worse, I couldn't recall to whom it
was supposed to be connected. I sent out mail to the HECnet list back
then, and Steve Davidson was kind enough to reconnect me back online.
So, since I'm currently connected through Steve's system, you can delete
the entry you have for me at this point.
Thanks for keeping me active on your end!
--Marc
Marc,
do you use the bridge program?
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens
Marc Chametzky
Verzonden: woensdag, december 2011 3:03
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
CC: Bob Armstrong
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs
defunct, no longer active, tunnels (are any of these people still
around??)
DUSTY:: (Marc ??)
I'm still around, but I had lost my connection to you (I think due to
firewall issues on my end), and far worse, I couldn't recall to whom it
was supposed to be connected. I sent out mail to the HECnet list back
then, and Steve Davidson was kind enough to reconnect me back online.
So, since I'm currently connected through Steve's system, you can delete
the entry you have for me at this point.
Thanks for keeping me active on your end!
--Marc
defunct, no longer active, tunnels (are any of these people still around??)
DUSTY:: (Marc ??)
I'm still around, but I had lost my connection to you (I think due to firewall issues on my end), and far worse, I couldn't recall to whom it was supposed to be connected. I sent out mail to the HECnet list back then, and Steve Davidson was kind enough to reconnect me back online.
So, since I'm currently connected through Steve's system, you can delete the entry you have for me at this point.
Thanks for keeping me active on your end!
--Marc
Area 19 revised:
1 - Area 19 (SG1 19.41 Level-II (AREA) router)
2 - bridge and 10 tunnels
3 - gwx.declab.net (69.21.253.230)
4 - bridge (psilo.update.uu.se:4711)
tunnel circuit tcp-0-0 - DUSTY:: 71.182.147.6
tcp-0-2 - LEGATO:: 64.142.52.93
tcp-0-3 - RVDSXL:: 193.2.191.212
tcp-0-4 - BUBBLE:: 62.49.25.56 *
tcp-0-6 - ROOSTA:: 80.6.148.150 **
tcp-0-8 - GROVAX:: 188.220.63.6
tcp-0-20 - WOPR:: 74.143.35.91
tcp-0-33 - FRUGAL:: 72.240.216.74 **
tcp-0-52 - RIFTER:: 216.15.64.181
tcp-0-59 - STUPI:: 192.108.200.211
Tunnel circuits are in the form of: tcp-0-<remote_area>
Area "0" is an extention of my "DEC LAN"
* This will change to SLAVE:: after I install Multinet there
** This is a dynamic-DNS address that is subject to change
-Steve
1 - Area 2, LEGATO:: (2.1)
2 - bridge and 5 active tunnels
3 - decnet.jfcl.com (64.142.52.93)
4 - bridge (psilo.update.uu.se:4711)
tcp-0-6 - ROOSTA:: 80.6.148.150
tcp-0-8 - GORVAX:: 188.220.63.6
tcp-0-19 - SG1:: 69.21.253.230
tcp-0-54 - CEIRE:: decnet.beyondthepale.ie
tcp-0-59 - STUPI:: 192.108.200.211
defunct, no longer active, tunnels (are any of these people still around??)
PDXVAX:: (Zane Healy)
PETEY:: (Dan Williams)
DUSTY:: (Marc ??)
SELENE:: (Thierry Dussuet)
MISER:: (Fred Coffey) (Ok, Fred is still active but we decided we
didn't need this tunnel)
Bob
All list members send me the following information:
1 - area # none yet... seeking to join any area associated with Hawai'i
2 - connection type future install of bridge program
3 - IP address 72.235.236.114
4 - connect to... unknown
5 - would like to claim hostname FAERY
--
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the parties, and are non negotiable. All rights reserve without prejudice by
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1 - Area 19
2 - bridge and 10 tunnels
3 - gwx.declab.net (69.21.253.230)
4 - bridge (psilo.update.uu.se)
tunnel circuit tcp-0-0 - DUSTY:: 71.182.147.6
tcp-0-2 - LEGATO:: 64.142.52.93
tcp-0-3 - RVDSXL:: 193.2.191.212
tcp-0-4 - BUBBLE:: 62.49.25.56 This
will change to SLAVE:: after I install Multinet there
tcp-0-6 - ROOSTA:: 80.6.148.150 This is
a dynamic-DNS address that is subject to change
tcp-0-8 - GROVAX:: 188.220.63.6
tcp-0-20 - WOPR:: 74.143.35.91
tcp-0-33 - FRUGAL:: 72.240.216.74 This is a
dynamic-DNS address that is subject to change
tcp-0-52 - RIFTER:: 216.15.64.181
tcp-0-59 - STUPI:: 192.108.200.211
Tunnel circuits are in the form of: tcp-0-<remote_area>
Area "0" is an extention of my "DEC LAN"
-Steve
I knew I was forgetting something...
They brew a nice beer at Westmalle abbey, it is known to affect the brain :-)
From: Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net>
Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:04:14 -0800
To: <hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
ReplyTo: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs
1 - 42
2 - Bridge
3 - 174.4.164.12
4 - psilo
Do you also need to know the DECnet address of the area router? In my case, it's 42.1 (CANADA::)
Ian
On 2011-12-27, at 3:01 PM, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
Ok I'll bite
All list members send me the following information:
1 - area #
2 - connection type (bridge program, Multinet tunnel, phase 5 over DeC IP stack, what have you)
3 - your IP address as used on Dec 27th
4 - IP address you connect to.
Example:
1 - 44
2 - bridge program
3 - my own (don't recal)
4 - psilo.
Ok?
------Origineel bericht------
Van: Steve Davidson
Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] Circuit costs
Verzonden: 27 december 2011 23:41
RE: Peter's Mom's house.. ...but the hop count from your side would be
painful! :-)
I will have some time to look at this on Thursday unless someone else
would like to do it for me... PLEASE...???
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:33 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Circuit costs
I believe that we need a map to figure this out correctly.
Absolutely - all we need now is a volunteer :-)
Don't I remember that someone once plotted a bunch of the locations on
a
Google map? That's probably not the best depiction, but it'd be a place
to
start, especially if we could overlay lines for the connections.
The only other comment that I'd make is to remember that bandwidth
isn't
necessarily related to geography. Just because two sites are physically
close doesn't mean that's the most efficient connection.
Heck, Peter's Mom's house in Sweden has more bandwidth then all of us
combined - we should just make her the hub :-)
Bob
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1 - 42
2 - Bridge
3 - 174.4.164.12
4 - psilo
Do you also need to know the DECnet address of the area router? In my case, it's 42.1 (CANADA::)
Ian
On 2011-12-27, at 3:01 PM, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
Ok I'll bite
All list members send me the following information:
1 - area #
2 - connection type (bridge program, Multinet tunnel, phase 5 over DeC IP stack, what have you)
3 - your IP address as used on Dec 27th
4 - IP address you connect to.
Example:
1 - 44
2 - bridge program
3 - my own (don't recal)
4 - psilo.
Ok?
------Origineel bericht------
Van: Steve Davidson
Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] Circuit costs
Verzonden: 27 december 2011 23:41
RE: Peter's Mom's house.. ...but the hop count from your side would be
painful! :-)
I will have some time to look at this on Thursday unless someone else
would like to do it for me... PLEASE...???
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:33 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Circuit costs
I believe that we need a map to figure this out correctly.
Absolutely - all we need now is a volunteer :-)
Don't I remember that someone once plotted a bunch of the locations on
a
Google map? That's probably not the best depiction, but it'd be a place
to
start, especially if we could overlay lines for the connections.
The only other comment that I'd make is to remember that bandwidth
isn't
necessarily related to geography. Just because two sites are physically
close doesn't mean that's the most efficient connection.
Heck, Peter's Mom's house in Sweden has more bandwidth then all of us
combined - we should just make her the hub :-)
Bob
---
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Ok I'll bite
All list members send me the following information:
1 - area #
2 - connection type (bridge program, Multinet tunnel, phase 5 over DeC IP stack, what have you)
3 - your IP address as used on Dec 27th
4 - IP address you connect to.
Example:
1 - 44
2 - bridge program
3 - my own (don't recal)
4 - psilo.
Ok?
------Origineel bericht------
Van: Steve Davidson
Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] Circuit costs
Verzonden: 27 december 2011 23:41
RE: Peter's Mom's house.. ...but the hop count from your side would be
painful! :-)
I will have some time to look at this on Thursday unless someone else
would like to do it for me... PLEASE...???
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:33 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Circuit costs
I believe that we need a map to figure this out correctly.
Absolutely - all we need now is a volunteer :-)
Don't I remember that someone once plotted a bunch of the locations on
a
Google map? That's probably not the best depiction, but it'd be a place
to
start, especially if we could overlay lines for the connections.
The only other comment that I'd make is to remember that bandwidth
isn't
necessarily related to geography. Just because two sites are physically
close doesn't mean that's the most efficient connection.
Heck, Peter's Mom's house in Sweden has more bandwidth then all of us
combined - we should just make her the hub :-)
Bob
RE: Peter's Mom's house.. ...but the hop count from your side would be
painful! :-)
I will have some time to look at this on Thursday unless someone else
would like to do it for me... PLEASE...???
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:33 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Circuit costs
I believe that we need a map to figure this out correctly.
Absolutely - all we need now is a volunteer :-)
Don't I remember that someone once plotted a bunch of the locations on
a
Google map? That's probably not the best depiction, but it'd be a place
to
start, especially if we could overlay lines for the connections.
The only other comment that I'd make is to remember that bandwidth
isn't
necessarily related to geography. Just because two sites are physically
close doesn't mean that's the most efficient connection.
Heck, Peter's Mom's house in Sweden has more bandwidth then all of us
combined - we should just make her the hub :-)
Bob
I believe that we need a map to figure this out correctly.
Absolutely - all we need now is a volunteer :-)
Don't I remember that someone once plotted a bunch of the locations on a
Google map? That's probably not the best depiction, but it'd be a place to
start, especially if we could overlay lines for the connections.
The only other comment that I'd make is to remember that bandwidth isn't
necessarily related to geography. Just because two sites are physically
close doesn't mean that's the most efficient connection.
Heck, Peter's Mom's house in Sweden has more bandwidth then all of us
combined - we should just make her the hub :-)
Bob
