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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Hi folks! I think I'm acquainted with some of you, but for those who don't know me from other places, my name is Dave McGuire, and I'm a DECaholic. =) I'm a DEC hack from way back, having cut my teeth on a PDP-11/34a running RSX-11M and later RSTS/E almost thirty years ago. Years ago I was a commercial VMS sysadmin. PDP-11s and RSTS/E are my biggest passions, but I'm basically a fan of most things DEC. For a living, I'm an embedded systems developer; I design hardware and write firmware. I recently acquired a commercial building near Pittsburgh, and am slowly constructing a "living" computer museum here. I'm working on the nonprofit paperwork now, and hope to have it open to the public in a year or so. I have lots of fun hardware here; several PDP-8s, countless PDP-11s and VAXen, two PDP-10s, some big IBM iron, several Cray supercomputers, and many more. Many of them are functional, more every day as I get more "oscilloscope time". Brian Hechinger and Sridhar Ayengar are old friends of mine, and they've mentioned HECnet to me several times over the years, but now it's time. I have a Cisco 7206VXR with DECnet enabled, Brian helped me out by allocating area #61, and I'm running two DECnet-connected machines 24x7: my desktop machine running Linux and an AlphaServer DS10L running VMS. I run other machines as time permits. So...Can I play too? :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Setting up Bridge?

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On 3/5/2012 11:10 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote: At 9:29 AM -0500 3/5/12, Brian Hechinger wrote: On 3/3/2012 9:05 PM, Zane H. Healy wrote: Does anything need to be setup on tempo.update.uu.se? Yes. They need to add you on that end. Guess this is what I get for not having a system online on HECnet for a couple years. :-) Which is why you asked. :-D I'm currently trying to get VAX/VMS v5.5 running under SIMH, which I in turn have running under Ubuntu 11.10 which is running in Parallels Desktop 7 on Mac OS X 10.6.8 (I suspect I might be crazy for trying that combo). Why not just run simh directly on OSX? Can the Mac telnet/ssh into the SIMH emulator if it's running directly on SIMH? Besides by running under Parallels, I can do things like suspend the emulation if I need to free up resources on my Mac. I don't see why not. The suspending thing is definitely nice, but it's not like it's that hard to shut down VMS. :-D On a positive note, I figured out how to get networking working, and currently have it running OpenVMS 7.3 and TCPIP. OTOH, SIMH blows up when I try to FTP the latest Multinet release into SIMH. Well, that's good news anyway. :-D As to it blowing up, that's less good. :-/ -brian

13 years, 4 months

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Setting up Bridge?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

At 9:29 AM -0500 3/5/12, Brian Hechinger wrote: On 3/3/2012 9:05 PM, Zane H. Healy wrote: Does anything need to be setup on tempo.update.uu.se? Yes. They need to add you on that end. Guess this is what I get for not having a system online on HECnet for a couple years. :-) I'm currently trying to get VAX/VMS v5.5 running under SIMH, which I in turn have running under Ubuntu 11.10 which is running in Parallels Desktop 7 on Mac OS X 10.6.8 (I suspect I might be crazy for trying that combo). Why not just run simh directly on OSX? Can the Mac telnet/ssh into the SIMH emulator if it's running directly on SIMH? Besides by running under Parallels, I can do things like suspend the emulation if I need to free up resources on my Mac. On a positive note, I figured out how to get networking working, and currently have it running OpenVMS 7.3 and TCPIP. OTOH, SIMH blows up when I try to FTP the latest Multinet release into SIMH. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |

13 years, 4 months

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Setting up Bridge?

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On 3/3/2012 9:05 PM, Zane H. Healy wrote: I really hate to admit this, but it's been so long since I've run the bridge, that I don't remember how to start it. I know there is a new version, I've downloaded it and built it. Does anything need to be setup on tempo.update.uu.se? Yes. They need to add you on that end. I'm currently trying to get VAX/VMS v5.5 running under SIMH, which I in turn have running under Ubuntu 11.10 which is running in Parallels Desktop 7 on Mac OS X 10.6.8 (I suspect I might be crazy for trying that combo). Why not just run simh directly on OSX? -brian

13 years, 4 months

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Setting up Bridge?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I really hate to admit this, but it's been so long since I've run the bridge, that I don't remember how to start it. I know there is a new version, I've downloaded it and built it. Does anything need to be setup on tempo.update.uu.se? I'm currently trying to get VAX/VMS v5.5 running under SIMH, which I in turn have running under Ubuntu 11.10 which is running in Parallels Desktop 7 on Mac OS X 10.6.8 (I suspect I might be crazy for trying that combo). Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |

13 years, 4 months

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Re: Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003?

by marc＠bluevine.net

On 12/1/11 8:05 PM, Marc Chametzky wrote: I've got a box of software and documentation CDs for AlphaVMS. I can send them to someone who wants them or perhaps just even put them online for people. I'm going to be migrating my virtual machines around and DUSTY will, at that point, no longer be running all the time. So, for those who may want to get these ISO files while I've got them temporarily around, please write to me directly and I'll give you a pointer. --Marc

13 years, 4 months

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VAX lisp anyone?

by setala＠gmail.com

Great! Thanks. --Saku You can pick it up from: ftp.endlesssoftware.com.au/pub/misc/lisp Regards, Tim.

13 years, 4 months

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VAX lisp anyone?

by tim.sneddon＠bigpond.com

On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 00:07 +0200, Saku Set l wrote: My friend was requesting VAX LISP and I can't locate it from my VMS archives, does anyone have it available? You can pick it up from: ftp.endlesssoftware.com.au/pub/misc/lisp Regards, Tim.

13 years, 4 months

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VAX lisp anyone?

by setala＠gmail.com

Mid 80's I guess On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 00:14, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: At 12:07 AM +0200 3/2/12, Saku Set l wrote: My friend was requesting VAX LISP and I can't locate it from my VMS archives, does anyone have it available? What timeframe was it available? Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |

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VAX lisp anyone?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

At 12:07 AM +0200 3/2/12, Saku Set l wrote: My friend was requesting VAX LISP and I can't locate it from my VMS archives, does anyone have it available? What timeframe was it available? Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |

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VAX lisp anyone?

by setala＠gmail.com

My friend was requesting VAX LISP and I can't locate it from my VMS archives, does anyone have it available? Thanks, --Saku

13 years, 4 months

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Help requested with issue regarding file transfer...

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Thanks Johnny, Yes, I got it sorted in the end, pretty much down to me not following instructions, but then the options weren't always obvious. The information is still very informative. Mark

13 years, 5 months

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Help requested with issue regarding file transfer...

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Hi Steve, Yes, thanks. In the end once I'd got the proxy configuration set at both ends (the transfer involves an index file push and then a data file pull) I had to work out that I needed to use Gold-Menu to pull up the option to actually perform the transfer. Took me four hours to transfer a set of files from one box to another mind - hardly and efficient process! Regards, Mark. On Sun, 5 Feb 2012, Steve Davidson wrote: > -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mark Wickens Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:44 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Help requested with issue regarding file transfer... On 04/02/12 17:19, Oleg Safiullin wrote: UAF> ADD/PROXY SLAVE::allin1 A1$XFER_OUT Is this proxy command appropriate in this case? I thought maybe it should be A1$XFER_IN? Any help gratefully appreciated. Thanks, Mark. Not sure, but ADD/PROXY SLAVE::allin1 A1$XFER_OUT/DEF may help. Bizarrely (and I'm sure Steve Davidson will have something to say about this) the instructions are telling you to set up the proxy the wrong way round. When I added the proxy on the target system back to the system doing the copying it worked fine. ... onto the next step... Regards, Mark. Mark, Are you all set with this? -Steve

13 years, 5 months

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Help requested with issue regarding file transfer...

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-02-04 18:35, Mark Wickens wrote: On 04/02/12 17:19, Oleg Safiullin wrote: UAF> ADD/PROXY SLAVE::allin1 A1$XFER_OUT Is this proxy command appropriate in this case? I thought maybe it should be A1$XFER_IN? Any help gratefully appreciated. Thanks, Mark. Not sure, but ADD/PROXY SLAVE::allin1 A1$XFER_OUT/DEF may help. Hi Oleg, Unfortunately that didn't help. Proxy access is all completely new to me unfortunately! I think you're working now, but I figured I could add some comments on proxy access, which might help you and others. Proxy access is essentially a way for you to specify that a specific user, from a specific machine, should get access rights as a specific other user on the local machine if they do not specify any user information. As a good example, here is the proxy definitions on MIM:: PROXY>list Remote User Local Account ----------- ------------- *::* DECNET (DEFAULT) ERNIE::BILLQUIST BILLQUIST MAGICA::* * (DEFAULT) MIM::* * (DEFAULT) PONDUS::BILLQUIST BILLQUIST STARS2::DAVIDSON DAVIDSON PROXY> So, anyone on HECnet, with any username, will by default access MIM:: as the user DECNET. (This is because under RSX, there is no default DECnet account, so I implemented the same through proxy, which works if both sides have enabled proxy) Next line is that BILLQUIST (me) on node ERNIE:: will have access on MIM as user BILLQUIST (well, ok, that is also me). This means I don't have to enter username and passwords on ERNIE when I want to access my stuff on MIM. Next. Anyone from MAGICA:: will have access on MIM:: with the same username. Since the username databases are (supposedly) synced between MIM and MAGICA, this is a nice thing to do, so people don't have to enter passwords all over the place. They expect to be able to access their files on MIM without hassle, if they are logged in to MAGICA. Next, anyone on MIM:: can connect to MIM::, getting access with the name he have. Essentially, you can access your own stuff on MIM, even if you go over DECnet, with the correct rights. Then I also have an entry for me from PONDUS:: to MIM::. Same deal as from ERNIE. Last is an entry I have for DAVIDSON. I don't remember exactly why I set that one up, but it just allows him to access files on MIM from STARS2, without having to pass credentials. I hope this will make people understand a little better what proxy is, and how it can be used. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

13 years, 5 months

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Help requested with issue regarding file transfer...

by jeep＠scshome.net

-----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mark Wickens Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:44 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Help requested with issue regarding file transfer... On 04/02/12 17:19, Oleg Safiullin wrote: UAF> ADD/PROXY SLAVE::allin1 A1$XFER_OUT Is this proxy command appropriate in this case? I thought maybe it should be A1$XFER_IN? Any help gratefully appreciated. Thanks, Mark. Not sure, but ADD/PROXY SLAVE::allin1 A1$XFER_OUT/DEF may help. Bizarrely (and I'm sure Steve Davidson will have something to say about this) the instructions are telling you to set up the proxy the wrong way round. When I added the proxy on the target system back to the system doing the copying it worked fine. ... onto the next step... Regards, Mark. Mark, Are you all set with this? -Steve

13 years, 5 months

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Help requested with issue regarding file transfer...

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

On 04/02/12 17:19, Oleg Safiullin wrote: UAF> ADD/PROXY SLAVE::allin1 A1$XFER_OUT Is this proxy command appropriate in this case? I thought maybe it should be A1$XFER_IN? Any help gratefully appreciated. Thanks, Mark. Not sure, but ADD/PROXY SLAVE::allin1 A1$XFER_OUT/DEF may help. No, I'm wrong, it's in the manual, it's just in a subsequent section which doesn't really help when you're following the instructions step-by-step. Mark.

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Help requested with issue regarding file transfer...

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

On 04/02/12 17:19, Oleg Safiullin wrote: UAF> ADD/PROXY SLAVE::allin1 A1$XFER_OUT Is this proxy command appropriate in this case? I thought maybe it should be A1$XFER_IN? Any help gratefully appreciated. Thanks, Mark. Not sure, but ADD/PROXY SLAVE::allin1 A1$XFER_OUT/DEF may help. Bizarrely (and I'm sure Steve Davidson will have something to say about this) the instructions are telling you to set up the proxy the wrong way round. When I added the proxy on the target system back to the system doing the copying it worked fine. ... onto the next step... Regards, Mark.

13 years, 5 months

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Help requested with issue regarding file transfer...

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

On 04/02/12 17:19, Oleg Safiullin wrote: UAF> ADD/PROXY SLAVE::allin1 A1$XFER_OUT Is this proxy command appropriate in this case? I thought maybe it should be A1$XFER_IN? Any help gratefully appreciated. Thanks, Mark. Not sure, but ADD/PROXY SLAVE::allin1 A1$XFER_OUT/DEF may help. Hi Oleg, Unfortunately that didn't help. Proxy access is all completely new to me unfortunately! Mark.

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Help requested with issue regarding file transfer...

by form＠pdp-11.org.ru

UAF> ADD/PROXY SLAVE::allin1 A1$XFER_OUT Is this proxy command appropriate in this case? I thought maybe it should be A1$XFER_IN? Any help gratefully appreciated. Thanks, Mark. Not sure, but ADD/PROXY SLAVE::allin1 A1$XFER_OUT/DEF may help.

13 years, 5 months

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Help requested with issue regarding file transfer...

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Hi guys, Could someone help me with a file transfer issue. I'm trying to get ALLIN1 to transfer all my documents from my VAX to my ALPHA. This happens via a management menu and a submitted batch job, but that job fails. I've narrowed it down to a copy operation: $ COPY oa$transfer:[MSW]pat_MSW.dat - SLAVE"A1$XFER_IN"::oa$loaduser:[000000]pat_MSW.dat %COPY-E-OPENOUT, error opening SLAVE"A1$XFER_IN"::OA$LOADUSER:[000000]PAT_MSW.DAT; as output -RMS-E-CRE, ACP file create failed -SYSTEM-F-INVLOGIN, login information invalid at remote node The account A1$XFER_IN exists on SLAVE, as does the target directory. The instructions before transfer include setting up a proxy between the two accounts: UAF> ADD/PROXY SLAVE::allin1 A1$XFER_OUT Is this proxy command appropriate in this case? I thought maybe it should be A1$XFER_IN? Any help gratefully appreciated. Thanks, Mark.

13 years, 5 months

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Access to SLAVE via LAT from local DECserver - permission denied...

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On 1/24/2012 8:37 PM, Steve Davidson wrote: Mark, Look at the file MIM::DU4:[DECNET]LATGROUPS.TXT, then configure your DECserver to use the LAT groups assigned to your network. -Steve HE LIVES! :-D -brian

13 years, 6 months

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Access to SLAVE via LAT from local DECserver - permission denied...

by jeep＠scshome.net

Mark, Look at the file MIM::DU4:[DECNET]LATGROUPS.TXT, then configure your DECserver to use the LAT groups assigned to your network. -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mark Wickens Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 18:09 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Access to SLAVE via LAT from local DECserver - permission denied... Hi guys, My node SLAVE is configured for LAT as follows: Node Name: SLAVE LAT Protocol Version: 5.3 Node State: On Node Ident: AlphaServer 1000A 5/300 VMS Alpha V8.3 MSW, Windermere, UK Incoming Connections: Enabled Incoming Session Limit: None Outgoing Connections: Enabled Outgoing Session Limit: None Service Responder: Disabled Announcements: Enabled Circuit Timer (msec): 80 Keepalive Timer (sec): 20 Retransmit Limit (msg): 8 Node Limit (nodes): None Multicast Timer (sec): 60 CPU Rating: 0 Maximum Unit Number: 9999 Extra Datalink Buffers: 9 Queue Limit: 24 Forward Session Limit: 16 User Groups: 20, 23 Service Groups: 20, 23 Service Classes: 1 Service Name Status Rating Identification SLAVE Available 81 D AlphaServer 1000A 5/300 VMS Alpha V8.3 M SW, Windermere, UK I have a DECserver 90M connected locally, but I get a connection refused when I attempt a CONNECT SLAVE. Is this a permissions issue I need to sort via configuration on SLAVE, or is this something to do with the DECserver configuration. Thanks, Mark.

13 years, 6 months

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Access to SLAVE via LAT from local DECserver - permission denied...

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Hi guys, My node SLAVE is configured for LAT as follows: Node Name: SLAVE LAT Protocol Version: 5.3 Node State: On Node Ident: AlphaServer 1000A 5/300 VMS Alpha V8.3 MSW, Windermere, UK Incoming Connections: Enabled Incoming Session Limit: None Outgoing Connections: Enabled Outgoing Session Limit: None Service Responder: Disabled Announcements: Enabled Circuit Timer (msec): 80 Keepalive Timer (sec): 20 Retransmit Limit (msg): 8 Node Limit (nodes): None Multicast Timer (sec): 60 CPU Rating: 0 Maximum Unit Number: 9999 Extra Datalink Buffers: 9 Queue Limit: 24 Forward Session Limit: 16 User Groups: 20, 23 Service Groups: 20, 23 Service Classes: 1 Service Name Status Rating Identification SLAVE Available 81 D AlphaServer 1000A 5/300 VMS Alpha V8.3 M SW, Windermere, UK I have a DECserver 90M connected locally, but I get a connection refused when I attempt a CONNECT SLAVE. Is this a permissions issue I need to sort via configuration on SLAVE, or is this something to do with the DECserver configuration. Thanks, Mark.

13 years, 6 months

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Is Pathworks32 server CTerm part exists?

by pinoccio＠gmx.com

-----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Kari Uusimaki Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:13 PM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Is Pathworks32 server CTerm part exists? Pinocchio, It takes a while for me to find the Pathworks CD's. I have an unsorted collection of hundreds of DEC software CD's and I have to dig into the boxes and go through them to pick the right ones. Please have patience. When I have the CD's available, I prefer to upload them to my own VMS machine for your pick up. I'll tell you about the locations when everything is ready. Kari Wonderful! Waiting impatiently! Thank you!

13 years, 6 months

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Is Pathworks32 server CTerm part exists?

by uusimaki＠exdecfinland.org

On 17.1.2012 20:16, Pinocchio wrote: -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Kari Uusimaki Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:56 AM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Is Pathworks32 server CTerm part exists? On 16.1.2012 20:43, Pinocchio wrote: P.S. Do anyone have DOS version of Pathworks in archives? I might have PW for DOS V5 or V6 (or maybe both) someplace. Which one do you prefer? Kari What a luck! Please, upload both! Thank you! P.S. I am not part of HECnet yet, so please upload it on some free hosting like http://www.mediafire.com/ P.P.S. It's my secondary reply to your message. For unknown to me reason first post seems is lost in eternity :-) (I did not receive it via mail list for about half hour). So I performing repost now. And to be on the safe side I am sorry for double posting in case first reply finally would find it destination sometime. . Pinocchio, It takes a while for me to find the Pathworks CD's. I have an unsorted collection of hundreds of DEC software CD's and I have to dig into the boxes and go through them to pick the right ones. Please have patience. When I have the CD's available, I prefer to upload them to my own VMS machine for your pick up. I'll tell you about the locations when everything is ready. Kari

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