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by Alastair.Boyanich＠au.fujitsu.com

Hi Johnny, Great! Shall do this weekend. Will get the new bridge.c compiled first. Also it'll be good to see if it builds under MIPSPro on IRIX now instead of gcc. Al. -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2012 3:46 PM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Size of HECnet I don't know of any .au on HECnet, so that would be cool... Let me know when you want to work on this, and I'll try to help from my end. Johnny On 2012-06-07 03:53, Boyanich, Alastair wrote: Johnny, Sounds fun. Do you have any other systems down here in .au ? If not and you have some spare time this weekend, I'd love a bit of a hand getting initially one of my systems online. We have a 3 day weekend/long weekend so I'll have more time. I'll try building the newer version of the bridge.c on the SGI, but the old one appears to function. Ports are all still setup as per instructions. Al. -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2012 9:01 AM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Size of HECnet Just some fun details... As of today, there are 321 nodes in the nodename database. They are spread out over 16 areas. We have machines located on (at least) three continents, if I remember right. While not online all the time, I think we currently have atleast the following OSes represented: RSX RSTS/E VMS Ultrix Linux OSF/1 TOPS-10 Tops-20 Windows XP IOS If you know of any errors in this information, more fun facts, or anything else you'd like to share, feel free to do so. Johnny

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by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

Hi list. I'll introduce myself later when I get a proper keyboard to type (right now I'm typing on an iPhone while riding a bus to my workplace...). I' the proud manager for the new HECnet area 7. El 07/06/2012, a les 3:02, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> va escriure: On 06/06/2012 08:59 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-06-07 02:10, Dave McGuire wrote: On 06/06/2012 06:11 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: By the way, as a warning... I seem to remember that DECnet support now have been dropped from Linux. So it might not be in there anymore, if you look at recent versions. It's still there, at least in the new Ubuntu version (12.04). The routing support is not compiled in (it's marked as experimental) so you need to build the kernel if you want to try to use it as a router. I'm pretty sure it's a way to compile just de decnet modules instead of rebuilding all the kernel, but I don't know how to do it (I tried the obvious way and failed). I planned to use Linux as my area route. It does not work. If you configure it as a level 2 router it generates corrupted packets (they have 4 additional bytes at the header, it looks like it gets wrong some offset so it should be potentially easy to fix). It SEEMS to work as level 1 router and I was using it to link together multiple tap virtual devices... until I discovered the VDE support in the 3.9 version of SIMH and started using it to have all my emulated toys in the same Ethernet segment as all the real iron (VDE is cool, I recommend you to try it :)). Well, we'll either have to talk her into re-owning it (Hi Chrissie! 8-)) or someone else will have to take up its maintenance. At least eventually, when someone breaks the kernel networking APIs again. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA Jordi Guillaumes i Pons Barcelona - Catalunya - Europa BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 06/07/2012 02:14 AM, Peter Lothberg wrote: Can you talk to sol:: I can't seem to get to it from my Linux desktop machine, no, but I can SET HOST to it from my Alpha running VMS. (which I'm reaching from the aforementioned Linux machine!) It seems that off-net DECnet routing isn't happening from the Linux machine..? What's up with this, does anyone know? (and...an SC-40, VERY VERY nice!!) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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by bqt＠softjar.se

I don't know of any .au on HECnet, so that would be cool... Let me know when you want to work on this, and I'll try to help from my end. Johnny On 2012-06-07 03:53, Boyanich, Alastair wrote: Johnny, Sounds fun. Do you have any other systems down here in .au ? If not and you have some spare time this weekend, I'd love a bit of a hand getting initially one of my systems online. We have a 3 day weekend/long weekend so I'll have more time. I'll try building the newer version of the bridge.c on the SGI, but the old one appears to function. Ports are all still setup as per instructions. Al. -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2012 9:01 AM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Size of HECnet Just some fun details... As of today, there are 321 nodes in the nodename database. They are spread out over 16 areas. We have machines located on (at least) three continents, if I remember right. While not online all the time, I think we currently have atleast the following OSes represented: RSX RSTS/E VMS Ultrix Linux OSF/1 TOPS-10 Tops-20 Windows XP IOS If you know of any errors in this information, more fun facts, or anything else you'd like to share, feel free to do so. Johnny

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 06/06/2012 08:51 PM, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: By the way, as a warning... I seem to remember that DECnet support now have been dropped from Linux. So it might not be in there anymore, if you look at recent versions. I've also had less than stellar results from trying to talk from Linux to RSX. So it might not work absolutely right under all conditions. Developers mostly (it not only) had VMS machines to test against... It's been some years ago, but I did a bunch of work to make it talk well with RSTS/E. And I thought others had done the RSX work. What work was this? Right now file transfers are mostly non-functional with RSTS/E...transfers complete successfully, but line terminators are completely hosed, and no combination of command line switches will make them work properly. Incidentally, I can use Linux DECnet support to get files over to a VMS system, then copy them from THAT to RSTS/E via DECnet, and things seem ok. (at least I think that worked, the last time I tried it) I remember the rumor that it was dropped. Too bad. But there's no reason the older version couldn't be used, unless your chosen platform requires a later one. Having to keep another instance of Linux around just to "hop through" is certainly doable, but kind of a pain. :-( -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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by wonko＠4amlunch.net

I'll look into it more tomorrow but I think it's similar to doing L3 on the 3560 or 4500/6500. Its L3 is limited to IP and it can't do tunnels, etc. I'll verify and report back. -brian On Jun 6, 2012, at 22:31, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 06/06/2012 10:11 PM, Joe Ferraro wrote: This isn't the thread for it, I realize.... the product slick states that the switch does BGP, HSRP, OSPF, VRRP, etc.. again, not my area of expertise... is this still considered a switch? Hmm, it may actually be ok then. I've not worked with any of the 49xx series. Supporting those dynamic routing protocols certainly suggests that it knows how to route! ;) Hey Brian, have you ever worked with those hybrid router/switch boxen? -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 06/06/2012 10:11 PM, Joe Ferraro wrote: This isn't the thread for it, I realize.... the product slick states that the switch does BGP, HSRP, OSPF, VRRP, etc.. again, not my area of expertise... is this still considered a switch? Hmm, it may actually be ok then. I've not worked with any of the 49xx series. Supporting those dynamic routing protocols certainly suggests that it knows how to route! ;) Hey Brian, have you ever worked with those hybrid router/switch boxen? -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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by jferraro＠gmail.com

This isn't the thread for it, I realize.... the product slick states that the switch does BGP, HSRP, OSPF, VRRP, etc.. again, not my area of expertise... is this still considered a switch? On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote: Ah... I was told it was a "layer 4" switch, so I assumed it did some routing and something at layer 4 (firewall?!?!)... not familiar with the term, frankly... On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 06/06/2012 09:59 PM, Joe Ferraro wrote: > Most any Cisco router will do the trick, but the oldest you'd probably > want to use for something like this would be a 2500 series. They can be > had all day long for $10-20/ea, they pull very little power, and their > software is...erm, "available" if you know what I mean. > > Just picked up a Catalyst 4948 (probably a bit overkill, but it was > free)... not sure if I have the correct licenses... in any case, if > anyone has a quick bit on setting this up, I, for one, would be > interested... Um...that's a switch, not a router. I'm almost positive this model runs IOS, but as far as I'm aware it has no routing capabilities. But either way, free is good. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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by jferraro＠gmail.com

Ah... I was told it was a "layer 4" switch, so I assumed it did some routing and something at layer 4 (firewall?!?!)... not familiar with the term, frankly... On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 06/06/2012 09:59 PM, Joe Ferraro wrote: > Most any Cisco router will do the trick, but the oldest you'd probably > want to use for something like this would be a 2500 series. They can be > had all day long for $10-20/ea, they pull very little power, and their > software is...erm, "available" if you know what I mean. > > Just picked up a Catalyst 4948 (probably a bit overkill, but it was > free)... not sure if I have the correct licenses... in any case, if > anyone has a quick bit on setting this up, I, for one, would be > interested... Um...that's a switch, not a router. I'm almost positive this model runs IOS, but as far as I'm aware it has no routing capabilities. But either way, free is good. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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by jferraro＠gmail.com

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: I've got a Windows NT 4.0 VM up occasionally too.. Sampsa boy that gives me bad memories of long days ... perhaps you should've gone for NT 3.50 while you were at it... I do have a Win 3.11 box running... perhaps there's a decnet stack for it?!!?

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 06/06/2012 09:59 PM, Joe Ferraro wrote: Most any Cisco router will do the trick, but the oldest you'd probably want to use for something like this would be a 2500 series. They can be had all day long for $10-20/ea, they pull very little power, and their software is...erm, "available" if you know what I mean. Just picked up a Catalyst 4948 (probably a bit overkill, but it was free)... not sure if I have the correct licenses... in any case, if anyone has a quick bit on setting this up, I, for one, would be interested... Um...that's a switch, not a router. I'm almost positive this model runs IOS, but as far as I'm aware it has no routing capabilities. But either way, free is good. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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by jferraro＠gmail.com

Most any Cisco router will do the trick, but the oldest you'd probably want to use for something like this would be a 2500 series. They can be had all day long for $10-20/ea, they pull very little power, and their software is...erm, "available" if you know what I mean. Just picked up a Catalyst 4948 (probably a bit overkill, but it was free)... not sure if I have the correct licenses... in any case, if anyone has a quick bit on setting this up, I, for one, would be interested...

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by Alastair.Boyanich＠au.fujitsu.com

Johnny, Sounds fun. Do you have any other systems down here in .au ? If not and you have some spare time this weekend, I'd love a bit of a hand getting initially one of my systems online. We have a 3 day weekend/long weekend so I'll have more time. I'll try building the newer version of the bridge.c on the SGI, but the old one appears to function. Ports are all still setup as per instructions. Al. -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2012 9:01 AM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Size of HECnet Just some fun details... As of today, there are 321 nodes in the nodename database. They are spread out over 16 areas. We have machines located on (at least) three continents, if I remember right. While not online all the time, I think we currently have atleast the following OSes represented: RSX RSTS/E VMS Ultrix Linux OSF/1 TOPS-10 Tops-20 Windows XP IOS If you know of any errors in this information, more fun facts, or anything else you'd like to share, feel free to do so. Johnny

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by Alastair.Boyanich＠au.fujitsu.com

[..snip!..] Besides, anyone who thinks I know how to use VMS is a moron, Im a total VMS noob. I know properly 10x about Linux what I do about VMS. That said there are plenty areas I've never had to deal with and mounting without root privileges is seemingly one of them. Thing is it 'just works' in RSX and VMS it 'just don't work' in Linux, at least at a prompt using the conventional tools. [..snip!..] Mark: If your that much of a noob.. I have a "Tips" file/page that's a little less daunting than the VMS-FAQ I used to hand out to people at my uni computer club when they joined the VMS sig or had no idea. I still update it from time to time. http://deviate.fi/~uridium/VMS-TIPS.TXT Maybe a few nuggets in there. Al.

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by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On 6/6/2012 8:03 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: Built and ran SIMH 3.9 3.8-1 works just fine (it's what i'm running now) and 3.9 runs fine in my sol11 VM. Did it have something to do with the networking perhaps, maybe a weird interaction with the Crossbow subsystem? We already know that part of that doesn't do things exactly the way we need them to, I wonder if there are other issues. No, this is on zaphod which runs horribly old SXCE. -brian

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by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-06-07 03:17, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: On Jun 6, 2012, at 9:11 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-06-07 03:01, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: pdp11, that's a different story, though I do try to do some more bits from time to time... You mean the gcc PDP-11 backend? Are you mad? :-) Johnny Maybe so, but working on its has been a good learning experience. It actually helped me doing "real work" on gcc. God. I have never fully understood the internals of gcc. I remember identifying some bugs in it several years ago when it targeted VAX. But I did that by writing code, running it through the compiler and reading the output to identify the problem. Then someone else had to go in there and actually figure out how it managed to get it wrong. I also helped the guy doing the original PDP-11 backend for gcc, but once more, I understood the PDP-11 side of things, but not much of the gcc internals... But I have tried. :-) All respect to you then, Paul. Johnny

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 06/06/2012 09:01 PM, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: Strange that gcc has so much trouble for VAX. I thought that had gotten a fair amount of care & feeding lately. pdp11, that's a different story, though I do try to do some more bits from time to time... Are you working on that?? I recently ran across this page: http://www.diane-neisius.de/pdp11/index_E.html ...in which a very enthusiastic person got it running some time ago, but with some pretty significant restrictions. I'd truly love to see the PDP-11 GCC back-end be resurrected and made to be fully functional. It may have a very limited appeal, but I already use GCC-based cross-compilers for many different architectures in both my work and recreational activities (both mostly ARM7), and would love to be able to do some bare-metal PDP-11 work with GCC as well. If you're working on this, allow me to voice my heartfelt support for this effort! -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

On Jun 6, 2012, at 9:11 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-06-07 03:01, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: On Jun 6, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Mark Wickens wrote: ... This is also mildly interesting: http://netbsd0.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/retrocomputing-with-vamp-stack-vax.ht… Always good to see a VAXstation being put to good use. Strange that gcc has so much trouble for VAX. I thought that had gotten a fair amount of care& feeding lately. Sad to say, but gcc really stinks... And the amount of time it needs to compile even something trivial is close to eternity. :-( pdp11, that's a different story, though I do try to do some more bits from time to time... You mean the gcc PDP-11 backend? Are you mad? :-) Johnny Maybe so, but working on its has been a good learning experience. It actually helped me doing "real work" on gcc. paul

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by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On 6/6/2012 6:13 PM, Mark Wickens wrote: My email client has been slowly squirrelling HECnet emails away in a folder using a rule I set up and then forgot about since I got my shiny new iPad. Is there a cross platform way of achieving uniformity with this kind of thing using gmail hosted mail? Or do I need to configure each client. That'll be a PITA. You mean sorting things into folders? If so then all you need to do is log into the web client and, uh, let me check. :) select the message you want to use as a template (like a hecnet mail) click the More dropdown menu item choose Filter messages like these You should be able to figure it out from there. :) -brian

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by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-06-07 03:02, Dave McGuire wrote: On 06/06/2012 08:59 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-06-07 02:10, Dave McGuire wrote: On 06/06/2012 06:11 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: By the way, as a warning... I seem to remember that DECnet support now have been dropped from Linux. So it might not be in there anymore, if you look at recent versions. Huh? Nope, works fine here, on a two-week-old Mint installation. (Mint is Ubuntu with Canonical's bad decisions un-done) Snip from 2.6-33 release notes: ==== commit f8b55f251012e104093e105483c45c5d85ad3040 Author: Christine Caulfield<christine.caulfield at googlemail.com> Date: Thu Feb 18 11:33:13 2010 +0000 Orphan DECnet Due to lack of time, space, motivation, hardware and probably expertise, I have reluctantly decided to orphan the DECnet code in the kernel. Judging by the deafening silence on the linux-decnet mailing list I suspect it's either not being used anyway, or the few people that are using it are happy with their older kernels. Signed-off-by: Christine Caulfield<christine.caulfield at googlemail.com> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds<torvalds at linux-foundation.org> ==== I guess the code might still be in there, but there is even less guarantee (if such a thing is possible in an open source project) that it works. Sure, but what I'm disagreeing with is the whole idea of something becoming "unsupported" means it automatically stops working. Oh, sure... I was just pointing out that doing some Linux box for DECnet routings have a larger-than-zero chance that it will stop working at some point, if you get it to work in the first place. At some point, there will be incompatible kernel changes (that's the Linux way...the least stable APIs on the planet!) which will break it, but that hasn't happened yet. Yes. I'm constantly amazed by peoples total fascination and devotion to an OS that is so crooked. Chrissie is on HECnet, so she can expand more on the current status, I guess. Excellent. Hi! We still want DECnet! 8-) :-) I plan to contact the developers when I have a little time and offer to do some more formalized testing against RSTS/E and RSX and get them feedback, and possibly fix some of the issues. This really needs to happen. Well, she is on HECnet, and is already reading this. However, since she formally disowned it, it might be that there is actually noone you could contact... Well, we'll either have to talk her into re-owning it (Hi Chrissie! 8-)) or someone else will have to take up its maintenance. At least eventually, when someone breaks the kernel networking APIs again. I don't know, but I'm almost smelling someone volunteering here... ;-) Johnny

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by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-06-07 03:01, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: On Jun 6, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Mark Wickens wrote: ... This is also mildly interesting: http://netbsd0.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/retrocomputing-with-vamp-stack-vax.ht… Always good to see a VAXstation being put to good use. Strange that gcc has so much trouble for VAX. I thought that had gotten a fair amount of care& feeding lately. Sad to say, but gcc really stinks... And the amount of time it needs to compile even something trivial is close to eternity. :-( pdp11, that's a different story, though I do try to do some more bits from time to time... You mean the gcc PDP-11 backend? Are you mad? :-) Johnny

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 06/06/2012 08:59 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-06-07 02:10, Dave McGuire wrote: On 06/06/2012 06:11 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: By the way, as a warning... I seem to remember that DECnet support now have been dropped from Linux. So it might not be in there anymore, if you look at recent versions. Huh? Nope, works fine here, on a two-week-old Mint installation. (Mint is Ubuntu with Canonical's bad decisions un-done) Snip from 2.6-33 release notes: ==== commit f8b55f251012e104093e105483c45c5d85ad3040 Author: Christine Caulfield <christine.caulfield at googlemail.com> Date: Thu Feb 18 11:33:13 2010 +0000 Orphan DECnet Due to lack of time, space, motivation, hardware and probably expertise, I have reluctantly decided to orphan the DECnet code in the kernel. Judging by the deafening silence on the linux-decnet mailing list I suspect it's either not being used anyway, or the few people that are using it are happy with their older kernels. Signed-off-by: Christine Caulfield <christine.caulfield at googlemail.com> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds at linux-foundation.org> ==== I guess the code might still be in there, but there is even less guarantee (if such a thing is possible in an open source project) that it works. Sure, but what I'm disagreeing with is the whole idea of something becoming "unsupported" means it automatically stops working. At some point, there will be incompatible kernel changes (that's the Linux way...the least stable APIs on the planet!) which will break it, but that hasn't happened yet. Chrissie is on HECnet, so she can expand more on the current status, I guess. Excellent. Hi! We still want DECnet! 8-) I plan to contact the developers when I have a little time and offer to do some more formalized testing against RSTS/E and RSX and get them feedback, and possibly fix some of the issues. This really needs to happen. Well, she is on HECnet, and is already reading this. However, since she formally disowned it, it might be that there is actually noone you could contact... Well, we'll either have to talk her into re-owning it (Hi Chrissie! 8-)) or someone else will have to take up its maintenance. At least eventually, when someone breaks the kernel networking APIs again. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

On Jun 6, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Mark Wickens wrote: ... This is also mildly interesting: http://netbsd0.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/retrocomputing-with-vamp-stack-vax.ht… Always good to see a VAXstation being put to good use. Strange that gcc has so much trouble for VAX. I thought that had gotten a fair amount of care & feeding lately. pdp11, that's a different story, though I do try to do some more bits from time to time... paul

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by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-06-07 02:10, Dave McGuire wrote: On 06/06/2012 06:11 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: By the way, as a warning... I seem to remember that DECnet support now have been dropped from Linux. So it might not be in there anymore, if you look at recent versions. Huh? Nope, works fine here, on a two-week-old Mint installation. (Mint is Ubuntu with Canonical's bad decisions un-done) Snip from 2.6-33 release notes: ==== commit f8b55f251012e104093e105483c45c5d85ad3040 Author: Christine Caulfield <christine.caulfield at googlemail.com> Date: Thu Feb 18 11:33:13 2010 +0000 Orphan DECnet Due to lack of time, space, motivation, hardware and probably expertise, I have reluctantly decided to orphan the DECnet code in the kernel. Judging by the deafening silence on the linux-decnet mailing list I suspect it's either not being used anyway, or the few people that are using it are happy with their older kernels. Signed-off-by: Christine Caulfield <christine.caulfield at googlemail.com> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds at linux-foundation.org> ==== I guess the code might still be in there, but there is even less guarantee (if such a thing is possible in an open source project) that it works. Chrissie is on HECnet, so she can expand more on the current status, I guess. I've also had less than stellar results from trying to talk from Linux to RSX. So it might not work absolutely right under all conditions. Developers mostly (it not only) had VMS machines to test against... I've had similar results talking to RSTS/E DECnet. From the little bits of old mailing list traffic I've seen, I'd guess they'd be happy to have it work with other platforms' DECnet implementations, but finding people with machines to test against is tough outside of this crowd. :-) I plan to contact the developers when I have a little time and offer to do some more formalized testing against RSTS/E and RSX and get them feedback, and possibly fix some of the issues. This really needs to happen. Well, she is on HECnet, and is already reading this. However, since she formally disowned it, it might be that there is actually noone you could contact... Johnny

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by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

On Jun 6, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: By the way, as a warning... I seem to remember that DECnet support now have been dropped from Linux. So it might not be in there anymore, if you look at recent versions. I've also had less than stellar results from trying to talk from Linux to RSX. So it might not work absolutely right under all conditions. Developers mostly (it not only) had VMS machines to test against... Johnny It's been some years ago, but I did a bunch of work to make it talk well with RSTS/E. And I thought others had done the RSX work. I remember the rumor that it was dropped. Too bad. But there's no reason the older version couldn't be used, unless your chosen platform requires a later one. paul

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