On 06/26/2012 03:09 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I know I'm going to sound all Web2.0 and stuff, but maybe a Wiki + a
blog that announces new posts to the Wiki?
Actually, a Wiki with some documentation would be a great idea.
But it s the same answer I m just offering the domain name;
somebody else has to set up the machine and service.
I'll host it if everyone is cool for the low-end hosting that I use
(i.e. Dreamhost)..
They also do automatically updated mediawiki + wordpress installs so
that'll work.
I am NOT throwing stones at this idea at all, but if anyone would find
this of value, I run my own self-contained network here...beefy Solaris
machines with big redundant fibrechannel disk arrays, backed up to big
tape juke, backup power, separate database servers, local nameservers,
etc, all on industrial-grade non-PC hardware, in a commercial building,
and I do quite a bit of commercial and noncommercial hosting on this
network.
I would be happy to make as much space and bandwidth available as
needed. I just don't have a lot of time these days (I moved from FL to
PA to find work, and I found a lot more than I bargained for) so I don't
want to work on the content, but if others can do that, I can make
whatever network resources available that would be needed, gratis of
course, for the group. I suggest this because I consider this to be
"friendly territory" network-wise, rather than at the whim of some
corporation somewhere.
If you guys don't want to go that route for whatever reason, that's ok
too. Just wanted to extend the offer, as it's one of the few things I
can do to help, and not everyone has these sorts of resources.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 06/26/2012 03:41 PM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
OK, well the easiest way to do this is to have your registrar point your
DNS at my hosting..
Ppppttttthhhhh.... Don't need no stinkin' registrar....
Actually my registrar is pretty cool and I can edit the DNS directly for
the domains that I own. What do you want ? An A record? Or a CNAME might
be more appropriate in this case. What's the IP and/or redirect name?
You don't run your own namservers? Jeeze. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I actually own hecnet.org. That could be used. In fact it is today to a
limited extent already...
I hope this doesn't start a "my domain is better than yours" argument, but
I'd guess that probably most people with DEC experience know what DECnet is.
OTOH, only we know what HECnet is ...
Bob
Bob,
I actually own hecnet.org. That could be used. In fact it is today to a limited extent already...
-Steve
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Bob Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:16
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] decnet.org
I own the domain decnet.org I have for several years, but I haven t really done anything with it. Is there any interest in using it for HECnet somehow? We could, for example, give all the machines that have TCP/IP connectivity name.decnet.org aliases. Or we could set up mail forwarding for somebody at decnet.org. Or we could have a web page at www.decnet.org. Or maybe somebody can think of something else. I m also willing to transfer the name if somebody can promise to put it to good use. I don t want any money for it, but I would like to see it get used.
Bob
On 26 Jun 2012, at 20:41, Bob Armstrong wrote:
OK, well the easiest way to do this is to have your registrar point your
DNS at my hosting..
Ppppttttthhhhh.... Don't need no stinkin' registrar....
Actually my registrar is pretty cool and I can edit the DNS directly for
the domains that I own. What do you want ? An A record? Or a CNAME might
be more appropriate in this case. What's the IP and/or redirect name?
And what subname? "wiki.decnet.org" ??
I already have a Blog and a Wiki on this specific topic set up at DECtec.info. My site is pretty quiet save for my RetroChallenge blog ramblings and I spent a lot of time skinning and theming the Wiki to a nice DEC themed wiki. I also have a small but inexpensive hosting space.
I'd be happy to combine my efforts with the community.
--
Mark Benson
http://DECtec.info
Twitter: @DECtecInfo
HECnet: STAR69::MARK
Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.
On 2012-06-26 22:16, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 26.6.2012 20:56, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2012-06-26 19:46, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 26.6.2012 18:16, Bob Armstrong wrote:
I own the domain decnet.org I have for several years, but I
haven t really done anything with it. Is there any interest in using
it for HECnet somehow? We could, for example, give all the machines
that have TCP/IP connectivity name.decnet.org aliases. Or we could
set up mail forwarding for somebody at decnet.org
<mailto:somebody at decnet.org>. Or we could have a web page at
www.decnet.org <http://www.decnet.org>. Or maybe somebody can think of
something else. I m also willing to transfer the name if somebody
can
promise to put it to good use. I don t want any money for it, but I
would like to see it get used.
Bob
Great idea!
Why not use it for connectivity to the outside world from HECnet? There
could be a gateway which translates the names and - if needed - DECnet
to TCP/IP and vice versa. DEC used to have an alias domain
(enet.dec.com) for the internal machines so that they could connect to
hosts outside the internal network.
I should point out that DNS is not the same as having a gateway. One is
just a DNS entry, the other is a machine. :-)
That said, I wouldn't mind if we could come up with something useful for
this. Having it point to somewhere where we can collect all resources in
a better way would be nice.
Some place that explains what HECnet is, how to join, have the bridge
program (and other stuff linked), links to other pages relevant to
HECnet (or DECnet), and whatnot...
But that requires that someone runs the service, and keeps it up to date
and running...
I suppose I *could*, but if someone else feels a bit more driven, that
would be good. I'm not good at web design, or user interfaces in
general. I'm way more into the technical details of things...
Johnny
.
Please don't take me for an idiot who doesn't know the difference of a
gateway and a DNS pointer. Maybe I'm not always so detailed and clear in
my postings, but I really have some more knowledge than that.
Please don't be offended.
I prefer to repeat the obvious than to maybe miss something very important. It does not imply that I don't think you know anything, or so. Just playing things safe for everyone. Also, you never know if someone else reads it and don't know all the bits and pieces.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 26.6.2012 20:56, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2012-06-26 19:46, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 26.6.2012 18:16, Bob Armstrong wrote:
I own the domain decnet.org I have for several years, but I
haven t really done anything with it. Is there any interest in using
it for HECnet somehow? We could, for example, give all the machines
that have TCP/IP connectivity name.decnet.org aliases. Or we could
set up mail forwarding for somebody at decnet.org
<mailto:somebody at decnet.org>. Or we could have a web page at
www.decnet.org <http://www.decnet.org>. Or maybe somebody can think of
something else. I m also willing to transfer the name if somebody can
promise to put it to good use. I don t want any money for it, but I
would like to see it get used.
Bob
Great idea!
Why not use it for connectivity to the outside world from HECnet? There
could be a gateway which translates the names and - if needed - DECnet
to TCP/IP and vice versa. DEC used to have an alias domain
(enet.dec.com) for the internal machines so that they could connect to
hosts outside the internal network.
I should point out that DNS is not the same as having a gateway. One is
just a DNS entry, the other is a machine. :-)
That said, I wouldn't mind if we could come up with something useful for
this. Having it point to somewhere where we can collect all resources in
a better way would be nice.
Some place that explains what HECnet is, how to join, have the bridge
program (and other stuff linked), links to other pages relevant to
HECnet (or DECnet), and whatnot...
But that requires that someone runs the service, and keeps it up to date
and running...
I suppose I *could*, but if someone else feels a bit more driven, that
would be good. I'm not good at web design, or user interfaces in
general. I'm way more into the technical details of things...
Johnny
.
Please don't take me for an idiot who doesn't know the difference of a gateway and a DNS pointer. Maybe I'm not always so detailed and clear in my postings, but I really have some more knowledge than that.
Kari
On 2012-06-26 20:37, Bob Armstrong wrote:
I know I'm going to sound all Web2.0 and stuff, but maybe a Wiki + a
blog that announces new posts to the Wiki?
Actually, a Wiki with some documentation would be a great idea.
But it s the same answer I m just offering the domain name;
somebody else has to set up the machine and service.
Hmm, maybe I should look at reviving my Drupal experiment... :-)
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 06/15/2012 03:36 PM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
Mim and the server running this mailinglist might have to be taken down.
I'll get back to you when I know more.
I just found out (five minutes ago) that our hard working admins are moving hardware out of the water damaged room. Psilo and Mim will go down soon. I can't say for how long, looks like it might be a while.
Unhappy regards,
Pontus.
OK, well the easiest way to do this is to have your registrar point your
DNS at my hosting..
Ppppttttthhhhh.... Don't need no stinkin' registrar....
Actually my registrar is pretty cool and I can edit the DNS directly for
the domains that I own. What do you want ? An A record? Or a CNAME might
be more appropriate in this case. What's the IP and/or redirect name?
And what subname? "wiki.decnet.org" ??
Bob
On 26 Jun 2012, at 22:21, Bob Armstrong wrote:
I'll host it if everyone is cool for the low-end hosting that I use
Beggars can't be choosers ..
Bob
OK, well the easiest way to do this is to have your registrar point your DNS at my hosting..
Sampsa
On 26 Jun 2012, at 21:37, Bob Armstrong wrote:
>I know I'm going to sound all Web2.0 and stuff, but maybe a Wiki + a blog that announces new posts to the Wiki?
Actually, a Wiki with some documentation would be a great idea.
But it s the same answer I m just offering the domain name; somebody else has to set up the machine and service.
Bob
I'll host it if everyone is cool for the low-end hosting that I use (i.e. Dreamhost)..
They also do automatically updated mediawiki + wordpress installs so that'll work.
Sampsa
On 6/26/2012 2:37 PM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
>I know I'm going to sound all Web2.0 and stuff, but maybe a Wiki + a blog that announces new posts to the Wiki?
Actually, a Wiki with some documentation would be a great idea.
But it s the same answer I m just offering the domain name; somebody else has to set up the machine and service.
Bob
I can offer server space if no one else does although I *really* need to rebuild my colo server and that's going to be such an amazingly large pain in the ass to do.
-brian
>I know I'm going to sound all Web2.0 and stuff, but maybe a Wiki + a blog that announces new posts to the Wiki?
Actually, a Wiki with some documentation would be a great idea.
But it s the same answer I m just offering the domain name; somebody else has to set up the machine and service.
Bob
One is just a DNS entry, the other is a machine. :-)
Right (!!). I'll set up the DNS pointer - you set up the machine :-)
Seriously - let me know the IP and I'll add the DNS entry.
Bob
On 26 Jun 2012, at 20:56, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Some place that explains what HECnet is, how to join, have the bridge program (and other stuff linked), links to other pages relevant to HECnet (or DECnet), and whatnot...
But that requires that someone runs the service, and keeps it up to date and running...
I suppose I *could*, but if someone else feels a bit more driven, that would be good. I'm not good at web design, or user interfaces in general. I'm way more into the technical details of things...
I know I'm going to sound all Web2.0 and stuff, but maybe a Wiki + a blog that announces new posts to the Wiki?
That way people could collaborate on the material instead of leaving it up to one person.
Installing a basic Wordpress + Mediawiki site (at least using my hosting) is like 20 mins of work...
Sampsa
On 2012-06-26 19:46, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 26.6.2012 18:16, Bob Armstrong wrote:
I own the domain decnet.org I have for several years, but I
haven t really done anything with it. Is there any interest in using
it for HECnet somehow? We could, for example, give all the machines
that have TCP/IP connectivity name.decnet.org aliases. Or we could
set up mail forwarding for somebody at decnet.org
<mailto:somebody at decnet.org>. Or we could have a web page at
www.decnet.org <http://www.decnet.org>. Or maybe somebody can think of
something else. I m also willing to transfer the name if somebody can
promise to put it to good use. I don t want any money for it, but I
would like to see it get used.
Bob
Great idea!
Why not use it for connectivity to the outside world from HECnet? There
could be a gateway which translates the names and - if needed - DECnet
to TCP/IP and vice versa. DEC used to have an alias domain
(enet.dec.com) for the internal machines so that they could connect to
hosts outside the internal network.
I should point out that DNS is not the same as having a gateway. One is just a DNS entry, the other is a machine. :-)
That said, I wouldn't mind if we could come up with something useful for this. Having it point to somewhere where we can collect all resources in a better way would be nice.
Some place that explains what HECnet is, how to join, have the bridge program (and other stuff linked), links to other pages relevant to HECnet (or DECnet), and whatnot...
But that requires that someone runs the service, and keeps it up to date and running...
I suppose I *could*, but if someone else feels a bit more driven, that would be good. I'm not good at web design, or user interfaces in general. I'm way more into the technical details of things...
Johnny
On 26.6.2012 18:16, Bob Armstrong wrote:
I own the domain decnet.org I have for several years, but I
haven t really done anything with it. Is there any interest in using
it for HECnet somehow? We could, for example, give all the machines
that have TCP/IP connectivity name.decnet.org aliases. Or we could
set up mail forwarding for somebody at decnet.org
<mailto:somebody at decnet.org>. Or we could have a web page at
www.decnet.org <http://www.decnet.org>. Or maybe somebody can think of
something else. I m also willing to transfer the name if somebody can
promise to put it to good use. I don t want any money for it, but I
would like to see it get used.
Bob
Great idea!
Why not use it for connectivity to the outside world from HECnet? There could be a gateway which translates the names and - if needed - DECnet to TCP/IP and vice versa. DEC used to have an alias domain (enet.dec.com) for the internal machines so that they could connect to hosts outside the internal network.
Kari
I own the domain decnet.org I have for several years, but I haven t really done anything with it. Is there any interest in using it for HECnet somehow? We could, for example, give all the machines that have TCP/IP connectivity name.decnet.org aliases. Or we could set up mail forwarding for somebody at decnet.org. Or we could have a web page at www.decnet.org. Or maybe somebody can think of something else. I m also willing to transfer the name if somebody can promise to put it to good use. I don t want any money for it, but I would like to see it get used.
Bob
Igor
I d be happy to have LEGATO connect to you with a Multinet tunnel. Since you are going to operate as a Level 1 router, that means you will have to be in the same area as LEGATO. That s not a problem since there s plenty of address space available, and I ll just reserve you a block from 2.300 thru 2.309. Sounds like you only have three machines, so that should be plenty.
You ll need to register your node names with Johnny (just email them to this list) so he can add them to the master database.
Send me an email off list when you have Multinet set up on your end and I ll turn on the link.
Bob Armstrong
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mirvaleev Igor (????????? ????? ????????????) Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:15 AM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Connect to HECnet
Hello all!
I would like to connect my 3 machines to HECnet.
One of them i plan to configure as Level1 router and connect to HECnet using Multinet or TCPware under OpenVMS.
Is anybody, who use the same software, can connect my machines to its area?
Machines located in Moscow, my static IP is 81.200.30.73
Thanks,
Igor
Hello all!
I would like to connect my 3 machines to HECnet.
One of them i plan to configure as Level1 router and connect to HECnet using Multinet or TCPware under OpenVMS.
Is anybody, who use the same software, can connect my machines to its area?
Machines located in Moscow, my static IP is 81.200.30.73
Thanks,
Igor
No. Some mails from Hans was encoded in Base64. If you didn't see that,
then there is something going on at your side to hide it.
But I think Hans solved this.
Johnny helped me do some testing and it turns out that there was indeed
something going on at my side to hide it. My PMDF mailserver was silently
removing the redundant base64 encoding so I never got to see it which is
why I was so puzzled. Apologies for spreading my confusion to the list
without checking further.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
On 2012-06-23 00:25, Peter Coghlan wrote:
Peter is this readable?
Hans
Sorry to be jumping into this late but I've been away.
I am confused as to the source of the problem.
I read the hecnet list using VMS Mail and I therefore get to see all the
headers in their gorey detail. I've never seen any mail from the list arrive
with base64 encoding.
I've had a quick look through the headers for all the hecnet mail for the
last few days. I find some mails have Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT and others
have Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT (including some that are not from Hans).
Just one mail (the HTML section of a mail from Jordi Guillaumes i Pons)
had Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable and none at all
had Content-transfer-encoding: base64. In particular, the ones from Hans do not
arrive here with Content-transfer-encoding: base64
I can't see anything special about the mails from Hans that would be causing
those and only those to result in difficulties on a 7bit only system.
Perhaps a mail transfer agent processing mail for the system experiencing the
problem is making incorrect assumptions about some of the mails going through
it and somewhat arbitrarily deciding to convert some of them to base64?
(I do see some headers such as X-Spam-Status: containing references to base64
but this should have no bearing on how the mail is processed.)
No. Some mails from Hans was encoded in Base64. If you didn't see that, then there is something going on at your side to hide it.
But I think Hans solved this.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
