- HECnet - lists @ Update

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:23 PM, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote: It takes a steady hand to work on live wires so say the least. The "card" made me think you have pre-paid power and thus in the UK. Are there more countries that do it that way? ________________________________ From: Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 16:42:56 +0000 To: <hecnet at update.uu.se> ReplyTo: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Tardis and sidrat Basically I live in a flat built on to the back of a house. We were sharing the electricity supply. Now its been changed so that we each have a sub-meter and get charged independently. The change didn't go well. The card meters take plastic cards that you load with credit at the local shops. Yes I live in the UK. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:33 AM, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote: What is a card meter ? (Are you located in GB?) ________________________________ From: Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 04:06:36 +0100 To: <hecnet at update.uu.se> ReplyTo: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Tardis and sidrat Hi, My two machines (tardis and sidrat) are going to be down for a while due to a series of power problems knackering the PSU on the machine I use to run the bridge software. Basically, my inept landlord decided to rewire our card meter live and caused the power to cycle repeatedly for about 2 minutes. The PSU in the old dell box couldn't handle that abuse. As the Raspberries (which run the VAXen) were powered from that machine via usb, I'm now awaiting a crate of wall-warts to power them back up. I don't think it'll affect anyone, as I doubt anyone was using my simulated machines, but i'm just letting you know. Tony Blews Hello! There was talk of trying that step here, at the same time the governor at the time deregulated the power delivery methods in the area where I live. (US:NY) It fell over with 32 legs in the air dead as a do-do. That because for NYC and Westchester County the provider Con Ed is actually way cheaper then the others, and uses spinning meters that were the selected design about the time Edison passed. As for the rest of the country, I'm not sure. But those meters are standardized all over the country. Possibly Canada as well. For some silly reason the companies in the UK chose what Tony is grudging about, and yes you are right friend about working on the live ends coming from the power mount on the pole and inbetween the meter and the breaker box. Does this mean Tony that you guys are constantly buying power company credits at the same time you're buying other stuff? Incidentally gas meters here were once paid for their allowing the customer to buy the stuff from the vendor by sticking a coin in the slot on it. If you want know more Tony about the other examples I cited Tony regarding the R.PI and Linux and what else can happen please contact me off list as the discussion is running off topic. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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Tardis and sidrat

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

It takes a steady hand to work on live wires so say the least. The "card" made me think you have pre-paid power and thus in the UK. Are there more countries that do it that way? From: Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 16:42:56 +0000 To: <hecnet at update.uu.se> ReplyTo: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Tardis and sidrat Basically I live in a flat built on to the back of a house. We were sharing the electricity supply. Now its been changed so that we each have a sub-meter and get charged independently. The change didn't go well. The card meters take plastic cards that you load with credit at the local shops. Yes I live in the UK. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:33 AM, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote: What is a card meter ? (Are you located in GB?) From: Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 04:06:36 +0100 To: <hecnet at update.uu.se> ReplyTo: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Tardis and sidrat Hi, My two machines (tardis and sidrat) are going to be down for a while due to a series of power problems knackering the PSU on the machine I use to run the bridge software. Basically, my inept landlord decided to rewire our card meter live and caused the power to cycle repeatedly for about 2 minutes. The PSU in the old dell box couldn't handle that abuse. As the Raspberries (which run the VAXen) were powered from that machine via usb, I'm now awaiting a crate of wall-warts to power them back up. I don't think it'll affect anyone, as I doubt anyone was using my simulated machines, but i'm just letting you know. Tony Blews

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by tonyblews＠gmail.com

Basically I live in a flat built on to the back of a house. We were sharing the electricity supply. Now its been changed so that we each have a sub-meter and get charged independently. The change didn't go well. The card meters take plastic cards that you load with credit at the local shops. Yes I live in the UK. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:33 AM, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote: What is a card meter ? (Are you located in GB?) From: Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 04:06:36 +0100 To: <hecnet at update.uu.se> ReplyTo: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Tardis and sidrat Hi, My two machines (tardis and sidrat) are going to be down for a while due to a series of power problems knackering the PSU on the machine I use to run the bridge software. Basically, my inept landlord decided to rewire our card meter live and caused the power to cycle repeatedly for about 2 minutes. The PSU in the old dell box couldn't handle that abuse. As the Raspberries (which run the VAXen) were powered from that machine via usb, I'm now awaiting a crate of wall-warts to power them back up. I don't think it'll affect anyone, as I doubt anyone was using my simulated machines, but i'm just letting you know. Tony Blews

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by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

What is a card meter ? (Are you located in GB?) From: Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 04:06:36 +0100 To: <hecnet at update.uu.se> ReplyTo: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Tardis and sidrat Hi, My two machines (tardis and sidrat) are going to be down for a while due to a series of power problems knackering the PSU on the machine I use to run the bridge software. Basically, my inept landlord decided to rewire our card meter live and caused the power to cycle repeatedly for about 2 minutes. The PSU in the old dell box couldn't handle that abuse. As the Raspberries (which run the VAXen) were powered from that machine via usb, I'm now awaiting a crate of wall-warts to power them back up. I don't think it'll affect anyone, as I doubt anyone was using my simulated machines, but i'm just letting you know. Tony Blews

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by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> wrote: Hi, My two machines (tardis and sidrat) are going to be down for a while due to a series of power problems knackering the PSU on the machine I use to run the bridge software. Basically, my inept landlord decided to rewire our card meter live and caused the power to cycle repeatedly for about 2 minutes. The PSU in the old dell box couldn't handle that abuse. As the Raspberries (which run the VAXen) were powered from that machine via usb, I'm now awaiting a crate of wall-warts to power them back up. I don't think it'll affect anyone, as I doubt anyone was using my simulated machines, but i'm just letting you know. Tony Blews Hello! Yow! Tony that's awful. (Almost as bad as what happened to an old friend tonight.) As for the Raspberries, I nearly bought one today at the Maker Faire. I kept obsessing over it, and then decided I have too much on my schedule for technology, and despite the fact that Slackware on it is supposed to be stable, but I have my doubts. As for your idiot landlord, let's just say I know how you feel, I once had an apartment in a building that was so owned. I believe it changed hands and the landlord is no longer that kind of boob. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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Tardis and sidrat

by tonyblews＠gmail.com

Hi, My two machines (tardis and sidrat) are going to be down for a while due to a series of power problems knackering the PSU on the machine I use to run the bridge software. Basically, my inept landlord decided to rewire our card meter live and caused the power to cycle repeatedly for about 2 minutes. The PSU in the old dell box couldn't handle that abuse. As the Raspberries (which run the VAXen) were powered from that machine via usb, I'm now awaiting a crate of wall-warts to power them back up. I don't think it'll affect anyone, as I doubt anyone was using my simulated machines, but i'm just letting you know. Tony Blews

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Node list update

by bob＠jfcl.com

isn't much point giving it a name as no one will ever need to use the name ... It looks nice on the "SHOW NET" display :-) Bob

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Node list update

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

OK A5RTR it is then. And, yes of course it can have a name, what I suppose I meant was that there isn't much point giving it a name as no one will ever need to use the name for anything, except perhaps to identify its purpose. Regards Rob -----Original Message----- From: Johnny Billquist [mailto:bqt at softjar.se] Sent: 22 September 2012 22:28 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Cc: Rob Jarratt Subject: Re: [HECnet] Node list update Doh! The results of not reading all mails in the inbox before updating... As long as we're at it, how about calling it A5RTR, to match the pattern used in other areas? Johnny On 2012-09-22 22:59, Rob Jarratt wrote: Yes, I meant A5ROUT, not sure what I was thinking. In fact I intend to change it to 5.1023, so please set it up at 5.1023 and I will change it at the next restart of the router. Regards Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner- hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Bob Armstrong Sent: 22 September 2012 14:37 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: RE: [HECnet] Node list update 5.99 can't have a name because it is only a DECnet router and nothing else Everybody else can know its name, even if it's not smart enough to know its own name :-) If you want a name anyway let's call it A4ROUT. If it's A4ROUT (as in area 4 router?) how come it's in area 5? Just wondering... Bob

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Node list update

by bqt＠softjar.se

Doh! The results of not reading all mails in the inbox before updating... As long as we're at it, how about calling it A5RTR, to match the pattern used in other areas? Johnny On 2012-09-22 22:59, Rob Jarratt wrote: Yes, I meant A5ROUT, not sure what I was thinking. In fact I intend to change it to 5.1023, so please set it up at 5.1023 and I will change it at the next restart of the router. Regards Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Bob Armstrong Sent: 22 September 2012 14:37 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: RE: [HECnet] Node list update 5.99 can't have a name because it is only a DECnet router and nothing else Everybody else can know its name, even if it's not smart enough to know its own name :-) If you want a name anyway let's call it A4ROUT. If it's A4ROUT (as in area 4 router?) how come it's in area 5? Just wondering... Bob

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Node list update

by bqt＠softjar.se

Uhhh... Maybe A5ROUT? :-) Johnny On 2012-09-22 11:33, Rob Jarratt wrote: 5.99 can't have a name because it is only a DECnet router and nothing else, you can't SET HOST to it, DIR it or anything like that. If you want a name anyway let's call it A4ROUT. Regards Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist Sent: 22 September 2012 10:07 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Node list update On 2012-09-21 19:35, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote: Please add this machine to the nodelist: 7.72 BITXOM (SIMH PDP11, RSX11M 4.8) Done. And, by the way, I don't have the node name for 5.99, neither it is in MIM:: I know. I've tried poking Rob about that, but don't have a name for it... The number of areas and machines online is looking pretty impressive nowadays, though. Nice! Johnny

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Node list update

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-09-22 11:33, Rob Jarratt wrote: 5.99 can't have a name because it is only a DECnet router and nothing else, you can't SET HOST to it, DIR it or anything like that. If you want a name anyway let's call it A4ROUT. What do you mean "can't have a hostname"? Of course it can. It has a node number, right? A node name is just a more convenient way to refer to a node number. A4ROUT it is then... Johnny Regards Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist Sent: 22 September 2012 10:07 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Node list update On 2012-09-21 19:35, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote: Please add this machine to the nodelist: 7.72 BITXOM (SIMH PDP11, RSX11M 4.8) Done. And, by the way, I don't have the node name for 5.99, neither it is in MIM:: I know. I've tried poking Rob about that, but don't have a name for it... The number of areas and machines online is looking pretty impressive nowadays, though. Nice! Johnny

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Node list update

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

Yes, I meant A5ROUT, not sure what I was thinking. In fact I intend to change it to 5.1023, so please set it up at 5.1023 and I will change it at the next restart of the router. Regards Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Bob Armstrong Sent: 22 September 2012 14:37 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: RE: [HECnet] Node list update 5.99 can't have a name because it is only a DECnet router and nothing else Everybody else can know its name, even if it's not smart enough to know its own name :-) If you want a name anyway let's call it A4ROUT. If it's A4ROUT (as in area 4 router?) how come it's in area 5? Just wondering... Bob

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Node list update

by bob＠jfcl.com

5.99 can't have a name because it is only a DECnet router and nothing else Everybody else can know its name, even if it's not smart enough to know its own name :-) If you want a name anyway let's call it A4ROUT. If it's A4ROUT (as in area 4 router?) how come it's in area 5? Just wondering... Bob

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Node list update

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

5.99 can't have a name because it is only a DECnet router and nothing else, you can't SET HOST to it, DIR it or anything like that. If you want a name anyway let's call it A4ROUT. Regards Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist Sent: 22 September 2012 10:07 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Node list update On 2012-09-21 19:35, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote: Please add this machine to the nodelist: 7.72 BITXOM (SIMH PDP11, RSX11M 4.8) Done. And, by the way, I don't have the node name for 5.99, neither it is in MIM:: I know. I've tried poking Rob about that, but don't have a name for it... The number of areas and machines online is looking pretty impressive nowadays, though. Nice! Johnny

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Node list update

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-09-21 19:35, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote: Please add this machine to the nodelist: 7.72 BITXOM (SIMH PDP11, RSX11M 4.8) Done. And, by the way, I don't have the node name for 5.99, neither it is in MIM:: I know. I've tried poking Rob about that, but don't have a name for it... The number of areas and machines online is looking pretty impressive nowadays, though. Nice! Johnny

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Node list update

by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

Please add this machine to the nodelist: 7.72 BITXOM (SIMH PDP11, RSX11M 4.8) And, by the way, I don't have the node name for 5.99, neither it is in MIM:: VAX/VMS Network status for local node 7.61 BITXOO on 21-SEP-2012 13:59:29.40 Area Cost Hops Next Hop to Area 1 3 1 UNA-0 -> 1.13 MIM 2 3 1 UNA-0 -> 2.1 LEGATO 3 4 2 UNA-0 -> 19.41 SG1 4 3 1 UNA-0 -> 4.249 SLAVE 5 3 1 UNA-0 -> 5.99 7 0 0 (Local) -> 7.61 BITXOO 8 3 1 UNA-0 -> 8.400 GORVAX 11 3 1 UNA-0 -> 11.1023 A11RTR 18 5 2 UNA-0 -> 2.1 LEGATO 19 3 1 UNA-0 -> 19.41 SG1 20 4 2 UNA-0 -> 19.41 SG1 33 4 2 UNA-0 -> 19.41 SG1 44 3 1 UNA-0 -> 44.1023 A44RTR 51 5 2 UNA-0 -> 2.1 LEGATO 52 29 5 UNA-0 -> 2.1 LEGATO 54 5 2 UNA-0 -> 2.1 LEGATO 59 19 4 UNA-0 -> 2.1 LEGATO 61 29 5 UNA-0 -> 2.1 LEGATO 62 3 1 UNA-0 -> 62.637 CTAKAH Jordi Guillaumes i Pons jg at jordi.guillaumes.name HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES

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DEC RDB 6.1 Kit

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

On 21/09/12 04:51, Kari Uusim ki wrote: On 21.9.2012 2:56, Mark Wickens wrote: Hi guys, Does anyone have the DEC RDB Version 6.1 developers kit. I have the December 1995 ConDist which *should* have it on, but for some inexplicable reason the .C saveset is missing from the CDROM (.A, .B, .D etc...) Regards, Mark . Which one do you need; VAX or Alpha? I'll check what I can find. Regards, Kari VAX please. Yes, I tried to install it - it fails loading saveset C. I have installed 5.1 without issue. Regards, Mark.

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DEC RDB 6.1 Kit

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

Have you tried to install it? Hans ------Origineel bericht------ Van: Mark Wickens Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Aan: hecnet at update.uu.se Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: [HECnet] DEC RDB 6.1 Kit Verzonden: 21 september 2012 01:56 Hi guys, Does anyone have the DEC RDB Version 6.1 developers kit. I have the December 1995 ConDist which *should* have it on, but for some inexplicable reason the .C saveset is missing from the CDROM (.A, .B, .D etc...) Regards, Mark

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DEC RDB 6.1 Kit

by uusimaki＠exdecfinland.org

On 21.9.2012 2:56, Mark Wickens wrote: Hi guys, Does anyone have the DEC RDB Version 6.1 developers kit. I have the December 1995 ConDist which *should* have it on, but for some inexplicable reason the .C saveset is missing from the CDROM (.A, .B, .D etc...) Regards, Mark . Which one do you need; VAX or Alpha? I'll check what I can find. Regards, Kari

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DEC RDB 6.1 Kit

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Hi guys, Does anyone have the DEC RDB Version 6.1 developers kit. I have the December 1995 ConDist which *should* have it on, but for some inexplicable reason the .C saveset is missing from the CDROM (.A, .B, .D etc...) Regards, Mark

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Some more old hardware available

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

It looks like this didn't go out the first time, perhaps because I sent it from the wrong place... --------- Since people are offering to send old hardware to a good home, I figure I should do likewise. I have some bits of old DEC hardware, free to a good home. a. two M9202 Unibus jumpers (the ones with a foot or three of Unibus cable between the boards). b. DEFPA-DA -- PCI FDDI NIC, dual attachment style (two fiber optic ports). paul

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decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

That got it! Thanks Rob. Mark. On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Rob Jarratt wrote: Is it not that you have not set up your routing node as an *area* routing node. Try DEF EXEC TYPE AREA and restart DECnet. Regards Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of hvlems at zonnet.nl Sent: 20 September 2012 19:16 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance Try $ show network/old That will tell you whether you've got a router or an endnode. Based on what you posted so far you have the former. Hans -----Original Message----- From: Mark Wickens Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:47:26 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at update.uu.se> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance Dan, Thanks for the help. Unfortunately it didn't make any difference. License Management Facility V1.2 License Database File: SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1 Created on: 16-SEP-2012 Created by user: SYSTEM Created by LMF Version: V1.2 ----------------------------------- DVNETRTG DEC $ show network Product: DECNET Node: SIMVAX Address(es): 4.248 Product: TCP/IP Node: simvax.hecnet.eu Address(es): 192.168.1.127 NCP>show known areas Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 14:46:17 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 unreachable NCP>show exec characteristics Node Volatile Characteristics as of 20-SEP-2012 14:45:58 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Management version = V4.0.0 Incoming timer = 45 Outgoing timer = 60 Incoming Proxy = Enabled Outgoing Proxy = Enabled NSP version = V4.1.0 Maximum links = 32 Delay factor = 80 Delay weight = 5 Inactivity timer = 60 Retransmit factor = 10 Routing version = V2.0.0 Type = routing IV Routing timer = 600 Broadcast routing timer = 180 Maximum address = 1023 Maximum circuits = 16 Maximum cost = 1022 Maximum hops = 30 Maximum visits = 63 Maximum area = 63 Max broadcast nonrouters = 64 Max broadcast routers = 32 Maximum path splits = 1 Area maximum cost = 1022 Area maximum hops = 30 Maximum buffers = 100 Buffer size = 576 Nonprivileged user id = DECNET Nonprivileged password = AUMIAWOSAJ Default access = incoming and outgoing Pipeline quota = 4032 Alias maximum links = 32 Path split policy = Normal Maximum Declared Objects = 31 On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, You need : ncp>def exec type routing iv ncp>set exec state off $@startnet Also have you got dvnetrtg license loaded ? That's what I normally forget. Thanks Dan On 20 Sep 2012, at 12:05, Mark Wickens wrote: Bit of a puzzler here, but it'll probably turn out to be my configuration. When the SIMH VAX/VMS 7.3 instance SIMVAX is serving hecnet.eu I get the following area/node stats reported: Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:22 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 reachable QNA-0 0 (SIMVAX) Known Node Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:37 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) State = on Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Node State Active Delay Circuit Next node Links 1.1 (MAGICA) QNA-0 0 1.2 (ERNIE) QNA-0 0 1.3 (FNATTE) QNA-0 0 1.4 (GOBLIN) QNA-0 0 1.5 (ZEKE) QNA-0 0 1.6 (GNOME) QNA-0 0 1.7 (BJARNE) QNA-0 0 1.8 (KRILLE) QNA-0 0 ... So only my area known, and weird stats for nodes. Can anyone tell me what is up with my configuration? I'm running Johnny's bridge and if I bring up SLAVE, the AlphaServer 1000A, on the same area it reports all stats correctly. SIMVAX is currently unable to see MIM. I set it up as a non-routing node. When I tried setting it up via NETCONFIG as a routing node I get everything unreachable. Regards, Mark. -- http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://declegacy.org.uk

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decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

Is it not that you have not set up your routing node as an *area* routing node. Try DEF EXEC TYPE AREA and restart DECnet. Regards Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of hvlems at zonnet.nl Sent: 20 September 2012 19:16 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance Try $ show network/old That will tell you whether you've got a router or an endnode. Based on what you posted so far you have the former. Hans -----Original Message----- From: Mark Wickens Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:47:26 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at update.uu.se> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance Dan, Thanks for the help. Unfortunately it didn't make any difference. License Management Facility V1.2 License Database File: SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1 Created on: 16-SEP-2012 Created by user: SYSTEM Created by LMF Version: V1.2 ----------------------------------- DVNETRTG DEC $ show network Product: DECNET Node: SIMVAX Address(es): 4.248 Product: TCP/IP Node: simvax.hecnet.eu Address(es): 192.168.1.127 NCP>show known areas Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 14:46:17 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 unreachable NCP>show exec characteristics Node Volatile Characteristics as of 20-SEP-2012 14:45:58 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Management version = V4.0.0 Incoming timer = 45 Outgoing timer = 60 Incoming Proxy = Enabled Outgoing Proxy = Enabled NSP version = V4.1.0 Maximum links = 32 Delay factor = 80 Delay weight = 5 Inactivity timer = 60 Retransmit factor = 10 Routing version = V2.0.0 Type = routing IV Routing timer = 600 Broadcast routing timer = 180 Maximum address = 1023 Maximum circuits = 16 Maximum cost = 1022 Maximum hops = 30 Maximum visits = 63 Maximum area = 63 Max broadcast nonrouters = 64 Max broadcast routers = 32 Maximum path splits = 1 Area maximum cost = 1022 Area maximum hops = 30 Maximum buffers = 100 Buffer size = 576 Nonprivileged user id = DECNET Nonprivileged password = AUMIAWOSAJ Default access = incoming and outgoing Pipeline quota = 4032 Alias maximum links = 32 Path split policy = Normal Maximum Declared Objects = 31 On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, You need : ncp>def exec type routing iv ncp>set exec state off $@startnet Also have you got dvnetrtg license loaded ? That's what I normally forget. Thanks Dan On 20 Sep 2012, at 12:05, Mark Wickens wrote: Bit of a puzzler here, but it'll probably turn out to be my configuration. When the SIMH VAX/VMS 7.3 instance SIMVAX is serving hecnet.eu I get the following area/node stats reported: Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:22 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 reachable QNA-0 0 (SIMVAX) Known Node Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:37 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) State = on Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Node State Active Delay Circuit Next node Links 1.1 (MAGICA) QNA-0 0 1.2 (ERNIE) QNA-0 0 1.3 (FNATTE) QNA-0 0 1.4 (GOBLIN) QNA-0 0 1.5 (ZEKE) QNA-0 0 1.6 (GNOME) QNA-0 0 1.7 (BJARNE) QNA-0 0 1.8 (KRILLE) QNA-0 0 ... So only my area known, and weird stats for nodes. Can anyone tell me what is up with my configuration? I'm running Johnny's bridge and if I bring up SLAVE, the AlphaServer 1000A, on the same area it reports all stats correctly. SIMVAX is currently unable to see MIM. I set it up as a non-routing node. When I tried setting it up via NETCONFIG as a routing node I get everything unreachable. Regards, Mark. -- http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://declegacy.org.uk

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decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

Try $ show network/old That will tell you whether you've got a router or an endnode. Based on what you posted so far you have the former. Hans -----Original Message----- From: Mark Wickens Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:47:26 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<hecnet at update.uu.se> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance Dan, Thanks for the help. Unfortunately it didn't make any difference. License Management Facility V1.2 License Database File: SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1 Created on: 16-SEP-2012 Created by user: SYSTEM Created by LMF Version: V1.2 ----------------------------------- DVNETRTG DEC $ show network Product: DECNET Node: SIMVAX Address(es): 4.248 Product: TCP/IP Node: simvax.hecnet.eu Address(es): 192.168.1.127 NCP>show known areas Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 14:46:17 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 unreachable NCP>show exec characteristics Node Volatile Characteristics as of 20-SEP-2012 14:45:58 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Management version = V4.0.0 Incoming timer = 45 Outgoing timer = 60 Incoming Proxy = Enabled Outgoing Proxy = Enabled NSP version = V4.1.0 Maximum links = 32 Delay factor = 80 Delay weight = 5 Inactivity timer = 60 Retransmit factor = 10 Routing version = V2.0.0 Type = routing IV Routing timer = 600 Broadcast routing timer = 180 Maximum address = 1023 Maximum circuits = 16 Maximum cost = 1022 Maximum hops = 30 Maximum visits = 63 Maximum area = 63 Max broadcast nonrouters = 64 Max broadcast routers = 32 Maximum path splits = 1 Area maximum cost = 1022 Area maximum hops = 30 Maximum buffers = 100 Buffer size = 576 Nonprivileged user id = DECNET Nonprivileged password = AUMIAWOSAJ Default access = incoming and outgoing Pipeline quota = 4032 Alias maximum links = 32 Path split policy = Normal Maximum Declared Objects = 31 On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, You need : ncp>def exec type routing iv ncp>set exec state off $@startnet Also have you got dvnetrtg license loaded ? That's what I normally forget. Thanks Dan On 20 Sep 2012, at 12:05, Mark Wickens wrote: Bit of a puzzler here, but it'll probably turn out to be my configuration. When the SIMH VAX/VMS 7.3 instance SIMVAX is serving hecnet.eu I get the following area/node stats reported: Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:22 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 reachable QNA-0 0 (SIMVAX) Known Node Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:37 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) State = on Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Node State Active Delay Circuit Next node Links 1.1 (MAGICA) QNA-0 0 1.2 (ERNIE) QNA-0 0 1.3 (FNATTE) QNA-0 0 1.4 (GOBLIN) QNA-0 0 1.5 (ZEKE) QNA-0 0 1.6 (GNOME) QNA-0 0 1.7 (BJARNE) QNA-0 0 1.8 (KRILLE) QNA-0 0 ... So only my area known, and weird stats for nodes. Can anyone tell me what is up with my configuration? I'm running Johnny's bridge and if I bring up SLAVE, the AlphaServer 1000A, on the same area it reports all stats correctly. SIMVAX is currently unable to see MIM. I set it up as a non-routing node. When I tried setting it up via NETCONFIG as a routing node I get everything unreachable. Regards, Mark. -- http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://declegacy.org.uk

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decnet known area/nodes from SIMH instance

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

There is no such thing as area 0, so if something is reporting that, it would indicate something peculiar going on. paul On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, On a working machine here (also simh). I have exactly the same settings on every line of your show char below. I did notice that on the first email, it was saying that SIMVAX was in area 0. I don't know if that is relevant. Can you do a set host to 1.13 ? If you can set host, does a copy known nodes from 1.13 make any difference. I maybe wrong but I think that if that is the only machine in the area you will get unreachable as there is nothing else to reach. Dan On 20 September 2012 14:47, Mark Wickens wrote: Dan, Thanks for the help. Unfortunately it didn't make any difference. License Management Facility V1.2 License Database File: SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]LMF$LICENSE.LDB;1 Created on: 16-SEP-2012 Created by user: SYSTEM Created by LMF Version: V1.2 ----------------------------------- DVNETRTG DEC $ show network Product: DECNET Node: SIMVAX Address(es): 4.248 Product: TCP/IP Node: simvax.hecnet.eu Address(es): 192.168.1.127 NCP>show known areas Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 14:46:17 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 unreachable NCP>show exec characteristics Node Volatile Characteristics as of 20-SEP-2012 14:45:58 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Management version = V4.0.0 Incoming timer = 45 Outgoing timer = 60 Incoming Proxy = Enabled Outgoing Proxy = Enabled NSP version = V4.1.0 Maximum links = 32 Delay factor = 80 Delay weight = 5 Inactivity timer = 60 Retransmit factor = 10 Routing version = V2.0.0 Type = routing IV Routing timer = 600 Broadcast routing timer = 180 Maximum address = 1023 Maximum circuits = 16 Maximum cost = 1022 Maximum hops = 30 Maximum visits = 63 Maximum area = 63 Max broadcast nonrouters = 64 Max broadcast routers = 32 Maximum path splits = 1 Area maximum cost = 1022 Area maximum hops = 30 Maximum buffers = 100 Buffer size = 576 Nonprivileged user id = DECNET Nonprivileged password = AUMIAWOSAJ Default access = incoming and outgoing Pipeline quota = 4032 Alias maximum links = 32 Path split policy = Normal Maximum Declared Objects = 31 On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, You need : ncp>def exec type routing iv ncp>set exec state off $@startnet Also have you got dvnetrtg license loaded ? That's what I normally forget. Thanks Dan On 20 Sep 2012, at 12:05, Mark Wickens wrote: Bit of a puzzler here, but it'll probably turn out to be my configuration. When the SIMH VAX/VMS 7.3 instance SIMVAX is serving hecnet.eu I get the following area/node stats reported: Known Area Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:22 Area State Circuit Next node to area 4 reachable QNA-0 0 (SIMVAX) Known Node Volatile Summary as of 20-SEP-2012 11:53:37 Executor node = 4.248 (SIMVAX) State = on Identification = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Node State Active Delay Circuit Next node Links 1.1 (MAGICA) QNA-0 0 1.2 (ERNIE) QNA-0 0 1.3 (FNATTE) QNA-0 0 1.4 (GOBLIN) QNA-0 0 1.5 (ZEKE) QNA-0 0 1.6 (GNOME) QNA-0 0 1.7 (BJARNE) QNA-0 0 1.8 (KRILLE) QNA-0 0 ... So only my area known, and weird stats for nodes. Can anyone tell me what is up with my configuration? I'm running Johnny's bridge and if I bring up SLAVE, the AlphaServer 1000A, on the same area it reports all stats correctly. SIMVAX is currently unable to see MIM. I set it up as a non-routing node. When I tried setting it up via NETCONFIG as a routing node I get everything unreachable. Regards, Mark. -- http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://declegacy.org.uk

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