I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good...
Do you need PAKGEN? Or does that work without a license?
Later versions of VMS have LICENSE/GENERATE, but you have to have a PAKGEN license on your system already.
--Marc
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:50, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Not off the top of my head, I did manage to get it installed with a license from pakgen though.
THis was like 3 years ago. I'll have a look around for the install media.
Okay, I deleted the copy I had, and the ftp site I found it on disappeared...
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:37, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:35, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good
Happen to know the product name for Ultrix itself on a MicroVAX? ;)
and would you have a copy of some install media? I don't think I installed the DECnet bits.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:29, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Not off the top of my head, I did manage to get it installed with a license from pakgen though.
THis was like 3 years ago. I'll have a look around for the install media.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:37, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:35, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good
Happen to know the product name for Ultrix itself on a MicroVAX? ;)
and would you have a copy of some install media? I don't think I installed the DECnet bits.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:29, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:35, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good
Happen to know the product name for Ultrix itself on a MicroVAX? ;)
and would you have a copy of some install media? I don't think I installed the DECnet bits.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:29, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:01, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:43 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
How complete are your -2020s?
They're both complete, but one of the two has a nonfunctional console
board. I need MASSbus drives to get them running. I have an RM02, but
it's in really bad shape and will likely require repairs.
Does the 11/750 work?
Not yet, but it's close.
How close? What're your plans once she's operational again?
Is that an iMac G4 I see?
It is.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good...
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:29, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 30 Oct 2012, at 00:05, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/30/2012 12:01 AM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Considering I was born the same year that VMS was developed, I think
it's fairly respectable.
Ahh, a young'n! I've got about a decade on you. But still,
approximately thirty times as much archived email. Your spools are lean
'n trim, my friend!
I'm younger than both of you but I love me some DEC software and let's see how much email I have 11,878 in this account. 5,300 in another. And I think I either deleted all my other accounts, their messages got moved to other providers, or I forgot the password.
And I lost a bunch of mails when I used my buddy's "hosting" service,
said buddy never having heard of RAID or backups.
Eeeeek!
Speaking of which I need to buy a couple 1TB and 2TB drives to implement RAID. Don't want to lose disk mages of netware or my Ultrix install named bonerhitler (don't ask) (anyone know where I could get a license pak for Ultrix or know how to configure DECnet on it?)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
This is a solved problem, no?
I mean automated mailing list archivers have existed since like forever, no?
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 29 Oct 2012, at 23:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
So, backup to your tape library? :p
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
No offence to Oleg intended :P
sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:07, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Yeah but they go for stupid prices - some dude in Tozhno won't have any clue what the thing is worth on ebay :)
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:05, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:38 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I'd love one of those crazy Soviet PDP-11 clones they made home computers out of, I think the brand was Elektronika or something.
Might have to put my uncle in St Pete on a hunting mission.
They show up on eBay with some regularity. They're supposed to be
really nice machines.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Yeah but they go for stupid prices - some dude in Tozhno won't have any clue what the thing is worth on ebay :)
On 30 Oct 2012, at 06:05, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:38 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I'd love one of those crazy Soviet PDP-11 clones they made home computers out of, I think the brand was Elektronika or something.
Might have to put my uncle in St Pete on a hunting mission.
They show up on eBay with some regularity. They're supposed to be
really nice machines.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 10/29/2012 11:38 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I'd love one of those crazy Soviet PDP-11 clones they made home computers out of, I think the brand was Elektronika or something.
Might have to put my uncle in St Pete on a hunting mission.
They show up on eBay with some regularity. They're supposed to be
really nice machines.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 10/30/2012 12:01 AM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Considering I was born the same year that VMS was developed, I think
it's fairly respectable.
Ahh, a young'n! I've got about a decade on you. But still,
approximately thirty times as much archived email. Your spools are lean
'n trim, my friend!
And I lost a bunch of mails when I used my buddy's "hosting" service,
said buddy never having heard of RAID or backups.
Eeeeek!
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 10/29/2012 11:40 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
All I can do is NCP LOOP your node, and FAL says no files found.
Is CTERM turned on or?
As Paul explained earlier, there's no CTERM under RSTS/E. I have to
find the package that he mentioned in his post and get it installed.
I reach the system over the network for login sessions via LAT.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Considering I was born the same year that VMS was developed, I think it's fairly respectable.
And I lost a bunch of mails when I used my buddy's "hosting" service, said buddy never having heard of RAID or backups.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 05:59, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:54 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
http://www.sampsa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/screenshot_33.png
Feh! You think that's a lot? ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 10/29/2012 11:43 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
How complete are your -2020s?
They're both complete, but one of the two has a nonfunctional console
board. I need MASSbus drives to get them running. I have an RM02, but
it's in really bad shape and will likely require repairs.
Does the 11/750 work?
Not yet, but it's close.
Is that an iMac G4 I see?
It is.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 10/29/2012 11:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a
format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say,
amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven
nines for storing email?
I dunno, I'd want something more than storing it on someone else's
hardware. Especially when that someone else is a huge corporation,
subject to corporate whims. Your data could go away at any time.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Well it works great from here! ;)
-Dave
On 10/29/2012 11:45 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Oh right. So you can technically reach it but in practice it's kinda useless? :)
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 05:37, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
Right, we discussed that earlier. ;) It's reachable, though!
-Dave
On 10/29/2012 11:36 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
{CHIMPY$} set host 61.4
%SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHOBJ, network object is unknown at remote node
On 30 Oct 2012, at 05:33, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:24 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Is this a node on HECnet BTW?
Should be...can you reach 61.4?
Because if so, it really should be on the front page of the website...
Maybe, but only after I "pretty it up" a bit. It only got mounted in
that rack last night (before that it was stacked up on a table) and it's
not in its permanent configuration.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
http://www.sampsa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/screenshot_33.png
On 30 Oct 2012, at 05:52, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:47 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 05:46, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:41 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
God I love this mailing list, I have no idea of half the stuff people are talking about, but it's all nifty.
I expected this mailing list to be less helpful with regards to my noob questions, I was pleasantly surprised.
I've learned quite a bit from this mailing list in a short while. ;)
On that note, we really should be archiving this stuff. I think I've got most mails going back a few years in my inbox still (I don't believe in folders, that's why search was invented).
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say, amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven nines for storing email? Wouldn't want to lose anything important!
(yeah, I go a bit crazy with archiving conversations ). I rarely delete emails!
Sampsa
On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:47 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 30 Oct 2012, at 05:46, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:41 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
God I love this mailing list, I have no idea of half the stuff people are talking about, but it's all nifty.
I expected this mailing list to be less helpful with regards to my noob questions, I was pleasantly surprised.
I've learned quite a bit from this mailing list in a short while. ;)
On that note, we really should be archiving this stuff. I think I've got most mails going back a few years in my inbox still (I don't believe in folders, that's why search was invented).
Yeah, archiving this stuff would be a great idea. Dump them all in a format we'll all be able to read in a few years and store it on say, amazon glacier. Who would want anything less than advertised eleven nines for storing email? Wouldn't want to lose anything important!
(yeah, I go a bit crazy with archiving conversations ). I rarely delete emails!
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 05:46, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:41 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
God I love this mailing list, I have no idea of half the stuff people are talking about, but it's all nifty.
I expected this mailing list to be less helpful with regards to my noob questions, I was pleasantly surprised.
I've learned quite a bit from this mailing list in a short while. ;)
On that note, we really should be archiving this stuff. I think I've got most mails going back a few years in my inbox still (I don't believe in folders, that's why search was invented).
Sampsa
On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:41 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
God I love this mailing list, I have no idea of half the stuff people are talking about, but it's all nifty.
I expected this mailing list to be less helpful with regards to my noob questions, I was pleasantly surprised.
I've learned quite a bit from this mailing list in a short while. ;)
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 05:40, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:30 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
Don't laugh folks. At one point I actually wanted an LSI-11 here to
work with. Then I ran out of space.... Now I'm interested in this
thing:
You really need to get some more space.
Models without standard bus
PDT-11/150
PDT-11/110
PDT-11/130
PDT-11/150
I had a PDT-11/150 many years ago, mid-80s. It was kinda fun, but
also kinda pointless. The only thing you can run on it is RT-11.
Incidentally Dave I'm still waiting.
Sorry my friend, things are really busy here just now.
Outside your place are a van of frustrated yetis and related
individuals in a brown van who're waiting and watching.
Then they're getting DRENCHED! ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hello!
Regarding the space issue, working on it. It's a work in progress.
Regarding the PDT-11 family member, the fact that it can only run
RT-11 is the only reason why I'm interested.
So you're nominated regarding finding one.
Regarding the other two issues, I can wait, right now they are going
through garbage next door.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:41 PM, <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
God I love this mailing list, I have no idea of half the stuff people are talking about, but it's all nifty.
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 05:40, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:30 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
Don't laugh folks. At one point I actually wanted an LSI-11 here to
work with. Then I ran out of space.... Now I'm interested in this
thing:
You really need to get some more space.
Models without standard bus
PDT-11/150
PDT-11/110
PDT-11/130
PDT-11/150
I had a PDT-11/150 many years ago, mid-80s. It was kinda fun, but
also kinda pointless. The only thing you can run on it is RT-11.
Incidentally Dave I'm still waiting.
Sorry my friend, things are really busy here just now.
Outside your place are a van of frustrated yetis and related
individuals in a brown van who're waiting and watching.
Then they're getting DRENCHED! ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hello!
Regarding the space issue, working on it. It's a work in progress.
Regarding the PDT-11 family member, the fact that it can only run
RT-11 is the only reason why I'm interested.
So you're nominated regarding finding one.
Regarding the other two issues, I can wait, right now they are going
through garbage next door.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Hello!
Yes.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Oh right. So you can technically reach it but in practice it's kinda useless? :)
Sampsa
On 30 Oct 2012, at 05:37, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
Right, we discussed that earlier. ;) It's reachable, though!
-Dave
On 10/29/2012 11:36 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
{CHIMPY$} set host 61.4
%SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHOBJ, network object is unknown at remote node
On 30 Oct 2012, at 05:33, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/29/2012 11:24 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Is this a node on HECnet BTW?
Should be...can you reach 61.4?
Because if so, it really should be on the front page of the website...
Maybe, but only after I "pretty it up" a bit. It only got mounted in
that rack last night (before that it was stacked up on a table) and it's
not in its permanent configuration.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
