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by lee.gleason＠comcast.net

I'd buy this in a flash.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-DEC-DIGITAL-PDP-11-70-16-BIT-MINI-COMPUTER-… -- Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR Control-G Consultants lee.gleason at comcast.net

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TOPS-10 KS10 Ethernet Monitor

by wilson＠dbit.com

From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> >I myself have multiple KS10 systems here, and would love to be able to >plug DEUNAs into their Unibus chassis at some point and have it actually >work. I probably say this every time this comes up: I've heard the point made that the DEUNA draws too much power to live in a KS10's BA11K along with the usual mess of stuff. I haven't checked the math but it certainly wouldn't hurt to make it a DELUA instead, for that reason alone. At one point I got a minimal start on writing a DELUA driver for ITS, but it's on my ITS RM80 that may or may not still work. John Wilson D Bit

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corrupted tape images

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

See http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/pipermail/simh/2015-March/013184.html I've independently verified this myself. Most of the RSTS/E stuff is ok, but a lot of the RSX stuff is corrupt. Man that really sucks. :-( -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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TOPS-10 KS10 Ethernet Monitor

by wilson＠dbit.com

From: Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> >I seem to remember having read that they were parity for each byte, but >looking at a Unibus spec now (from 1979), it seems PB is actually >indicating a parity error, while PA is reserved for future use. OK I had PA and PB reversed, but, exactly. I don't know if that means PA/PB had a slightly different meaning in the early days when the parity controller was outboard of the core stacks (in that case I'd think you couldn't mix old and new hardware, which doesn't seem to be a problem), or else they changed the spec before the hardware hit the streets and everything is fine (which sounds more like it). >And the >slave are expected to generate these signals, and the master is expected >to check them, so I guess the DEUNA/DELUA should generate/check them, if >it is a proper Unibus citizen. Which could make life in a KS interesting... Well, my point is that if it's true that PB is now asserted only on an error (vs. both being asserted or not depending on the parity of that byte), then if it *never* gets asserted, everything's fine. Accesses to CSR space certainly don't check parity so it seems that nothing bad happens if you don't assert these pins. And I'm thinking the DEUNA/DELUA would stop with a parity error if it found PB asserted when reading memory with DMA, which is a good reason to make sure the data structures and buffers you give it never have the 17th/18th bits set, but otherwise, no sweat. You're giving up parity checking but the KS10 MMC/MMAs already do ECC and I don't think they need Unibus masters to be in charge of noticing flaky RAM. John Wilson D Bit

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VCF East

by steve＠davidson.net

All, For those who did not attend VCF East you missed a great time! On Saturday, the keynote speaker was none other than Brian Kernighan. You really missed a treat - right Dave! Next year, I plan to bring even more stuff (not nearly as much as Dave did) but more than this year. Dave's island of equipment included the following: PDP-8 PDP-11/34 PDP-11/44 DECserver-200 multiple terminals I'm sure I have forgotten something... I added: VAXstation 4000/60 DEChub-90 backplane with a DECserver-90TL and a 16-port DEChub VT320 a gateway (actually bridge) machine to connect to HECnet only the link was pathetic Brian (aka VAXman) added: VAXstation 4000/30 (aka VLC) In addition to the "island" Dave had other "exhibits" that I will defer to Dave for discussion. Next year we NEED more stuff! This is the official challenge to anyone on the East coast. We want to see many more of you. If is is DEC it is needed. I would also like to personally add my thanks to Dave and Brian for making this such a treat. Dave is nuts (in a good way) and very generous. Brian was there for me when my brain could not content with the sheer volume of noise - helping me to configure the DECservers and dealing with my fat fingering the keyboard and the license management facility (LMF). For a while we were Frick and Frack but we managed to get it together. Thanks guys! -Steve

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Paging Peter Lthberg

by b4＠gewt.net

Peter, How exactly do I BOOT the SC-40 from tape? You're the only onw who knows. ;) I have a compatible HVD tape drive and a properly-written tape...now I just need to know how to boot it. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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TOPS-10 KS10 Ethernet Monitor

by b4＠gewt.net

Hello, I've been attempting to (likely incorrectly) get the DEUNA emulation working in SIMH's KS10 simulator. Current status: * Exists * Has an address * Has a vector * Can be enabled * Can attach to host interface ...and that's as far as I've gotten. Currently having issues getting TOPS-10 to successfully link for KS10 with ethernet support. Anyone have a pre-genned MONITOR executable? -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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TOPS-10 KS10 Ethernet Monitor

by wilson＠dbit.com

From: Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> >I'm curious on exactly how a DEUNA/DELUA works in a KS-10. Does anyone >know? Does it do 8-bit-byte DMA to the 18-bit memory, leaving the top >two bits alone. Or does it only work if it do word DMA (would be >strange, as the controller itself can send and receive odd byte length >ethernet packets). This is what the BLTBU and BLTUB instructions are for in the later microcode (converting between sensible PDP-10 memory and the mishmash you get as a result of DMA through the UBA to a 16-bit peripheral). Since a DELUA is not 18-bit-data-aware, it ignores the high two bits of each 18-bit halfword when doing DMA. >Is there some potential problem with regards to a PDP-11, which have two >parity bits for data, which are used for actual data on a KS? (If I >remember right.) IIRC you're OK as long as you don't set those bits in memory that the DELUA will read. I feel like the Unibus documentation changed at some point, between whether PA/PB are actual parity bits (I think that's what the very early doc said), vs. being parity *error* bits (and I think PB isn't even really used -- PA asserted means there's been a parity error detected in the current DATI/DATIP). I could be wrong about all of this. John Wilson D Bit

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Last month's Ebay auction for DEC VAX Ultrix, NETBSD software, TK50 cassettes, DECDirect Disks

by jim＠deitygraveyard.com

With all the recent Ultrix talk I guess it's safe to assume nobody here won this auction last month: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321694487216 . Right? (I think) I downloaded an Ultrix 4.5 CD a while back so I'm really hoping to get the Software Products Library CD. Among other things I want DECNET-Plus. And I want the Documentation CDs. And... I really wish I had gotten in on that auction. :( Jim

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ULTRIX DECNET LMF?

by sampsa＠mac.com

Any of you happen to know what the correct LMF code for ULTRIX-32 4.0 DECNET happens to be? I know a guy who knows a guy with pakgen *cough* so I could get the necessary licenses but we don't know what the product codes are.... Sampsa

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Ultrix

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

By the way, since we're discussing Ultrix...I just remembered that I have 4.3 and 4.4 CDROMs for VAX. I just made images of them. Let me know if you want 'em.. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ/3 New Kensington, PA

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VCF East

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> writes: >All, > >For those who did not attend VCF East you missed a great time! On >Saturday, the keynote speaker was none other than Brian Kernighan. You >really missed a treat - right Dave! > >Next year, I plan to bring even more stuff (not nearly as much as Dave >did) but more than this year. Dave's island of equipment included the >following: > >PDP-8 >PDP-11/34 >PDP-11/44 >DECserver-200 >multiple terminals >I'm sure I have forgotten something... > >I added: > >VAXstation 4000/60 >DEChub-90 backplane with a DECserver-90TL and a 16-port DEChub >VT320 >a gateway (actually bridge) machine to connect to HECnet only the link >was pathetic > >Brian (aka VAXman) added: > >VAXstation 4000/30 (aka VLC) > >In addition to the "island" Dave had other "exhibits" that I will defer >to Dave for discussion. > >Next year we NEED more stuff! This is the official challenge to anyone >on the East coast. We want to see many more of you. If is is DEC it is >needed. > >I would also like to personally add my thanks to Dave and Brian for >making this such a treat. Dave is nuts (in a good way) and very >generous. Brian was there for me when my brain could not content with >the sheer volume of noise - helping me to configure the DECservers and >dealing with my fat fingering the keyboard and the license management >facility (LMF). For a while we were Frick and Frack but we managed to >get it together. Thanks guys! 'Twas great to meet you Steve. Dave has often spoken of creating an uber-cluster at VCF East. Let's do it! As for me, I reside about 12 miles away, so it's no issue for me to get to InfoAge. In the later '80s and early '90s, I provided VMS support at Camp Evans when the Army was still in active occupation of the site. I would love to see a huge DEC presence at VCF next year; especially, VMS kit. I also, albeit Alpha and Itanium are not vintage in the mindset of those running VCF, would love to demonstrate the seamless integration of VMScluster across the different architectures. But, regardless, I would very much contribute DEC kit for next year's VCF. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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VCF East

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes: >On 04/24/2015 09:35 AM, Steve Davidson wrote: >> I think we could get away with adding Alpha circa 92' - after all it was STILL DEC at that point. > > The way to get away with it would be to show real relevance. I don't >consider Alphas to be "vintage" in the least, but showing full >interoperability between related machines that evolved along a family >line going back more than thirty years is, in my view, a highl relevant >exhibit. > > Further, keep in mind that a lot of this is marketing. It's marketing >for the museum, and for our "hobby" (using the term very loosely). An >exhibit as massive as the one we've got in mind will deeply impress a >lot of people. ... and it may deeply depress the local power grid. ;) -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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VCF East

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> writes: > > >On 04/23/2015 09:34 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: >> On 2015-04-24 03:21, Sampsa Laine wrote: >>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 02:17, Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> wrote: >>> >>>> VAXstation 4000/60 >>>> DEChub-90 backplane with a DECserver-90TL and a 16-port DEChub >>>> VT320 >>>> a gateway (actually bridge) machine to connect to HECnet only the >>>> link was pathetic >>> >>> >>> Next year let me know, I've got a bridge sitting on a gigabit pipe >>> doing nothing. >> >> I don't think that will help, unless that pipe happens to have one end >> somewhere on the US east coast I suspect... >> >> Update itself sits on even more bandwidth. Not helping either... >> >> Johnny >> >The issues were local to the VCF East site. Everyone had issues with >it. Dave is working this one for next year. The other end is my site >with plenty of bandwidth and even more coming. It will be a 100 megs >down / 40 megs up shortly. I have other passions outside of computing too. One is music. For more than a decade, I've been hosting the Aural Moon Progressive Rock internet radio site and doing many/most of the technical efforts to keep it going. My title there is: Janitorial Services and Restroom Supplies; as I keep it all neat and tidy, and free of the script kiddies and forum SPAMmers. Anyway, a Philadelphia FM DJ has a show which Aural Moon rebroadcasts on Saturday evenings and replays on Tuesday. He has also, as an Aural Moon exclusive, done live concert feeds. For this, I've contacted the local cable internet providers and have had cable internet drops installed for the duration of these events -- typically, weekends. With a little bit of preparation, I've had sufficient bandwidth via these carriers for the up-feed to Aural Moon. The installation and fee for the last three-day event's internet was less then $100!!! I have a 4U portable rack with a Cisco router, APC UPS and sundry other bits I've needed for doing remote site live gigs. Think about it! I don't know who is providing internet to InfoAge but I've found it to be slow and unreliable; at least, the wireless on the campus seems to be. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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VCF East

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> writes: >AGENA:: (19.11) is part of the STARS:: cluster. All of the nodes have >the names of stars. Ask Dave (or Brian) what the message from >SYLOGIN.COM said... :-) :) Star and Starlet; I know it well. ;) FYI, I used to have a Sheltie. Her registered name was Starlet-dot.MLB. We called her Starlet for short. >The DECserver-90TL was brought up by Brian and myself. The >DECserver-200 was brought up by Dave and myself after Dave was able to >do a hardware reset on the unit. Prior to that it was VERY confused. >We spent a great deal of time trying to get files off the USB stick, in >fact much more time than anything else. The ISL configuration was easy >(as usual with DEC). The DECserver-90TL came right up - no issues. >Everything was loaded from AGENA::. Brian's machine was a "hot" backup >should we have needed it. The beauty of the 90TL was not only LAT but >telnet. Unfortunately we did not have time to make use of it. > >Also... I did manage to get our wireless link up long enough for both >Dave and I to VMS/Phone Fred Coffee in Ohio. The MACbook did the best >job holding the link. Far better than the Linux or Windows system could >manage. Next year it will be a dedicated NetBSD platform just like what >I use in my DEClab to support the bridge. I would like to experiment >with using LAT just like we do today between my network and the rest of >the backbone. If the link is robust enough then MOM/MOP might also be a >possibility. Imagine... DECservers be loaded "remotely"! I'll just bring a DEChub-900 and DECserver-90Ms for you next year. Also, some DECswitch-90FE for 100MB connects to the 900 hub. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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VCF East

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> writes: >I think we could get away with adding Alpha circa 92' - after all it was STI= >LL DEC at that point.=20 I have an ES45 in a short rack with 32GB 4-way interleaved memory, 4 CPUs and it's configured as a Galaxy (2 instances) which is a way cool thing to demo. However, the ES is tagged with Compaq. I do have several DEC "tagged" Alphas. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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Galaxy question

by system＠TMESIS.COM

"Hans Vlems" <hvlems at zonnet.nl> writes: >Brian, > >do you know whether it is possible to configure a 2-instance galaxy >on an Alpha Server 1200 (or possibly a DS20E)? >That is the only hardware with more than 1 cpu that have. >Hans I had a 1200 (as the d|i|g|i|t|a|l Ultimate Workstation); it died. I have 2 dual CPU DS20Es (and one single CPU DE20E). I've not looked into setting up a Galaxy on ANY dual CPU setup. It seems kind of pointless. You would, more likely than not, have the best chance on the DS20E if it's supported. Give it a try; it couldn't hurt. > -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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VCF East

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> writes: >I will be bringing a packet probe and possibly the entire STARS:: cluster. DECprobe, DECagent, DECbridge, etc., I got them too. >In addition I am thinking of bringing a LATprint DEChub module. I never bothered with those. Serial printing can be configured on any LAT capable terminal server. >All I will need are a couple or serial printers. I've got a beautiful LA120 but I figured that would be nice for a console. I do have a DEC LetterPrinter LA-210 with both options of friction feeder and tractor feeder. I used to use it to print carbonless invoice forms. I have a DEC LNCO2 which, if I can get some consumable for it, would be a nice laser printer to demo. It printed gorgeous 2400DPI color. I put it on mothballs when Hopelessly Pathetic decided their printers were better and stopped supporting the old DEC laser printers. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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DECUS/Connect free membership

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> writes: >Hello, > >My connect (formely DECUS) membership has expired, and when I try to = >renew it I have seen the =E2=80=9Cguest=E2=80=9D membership option (the = >free one is gone). Is there any other organization whose members are = >elegible to obtain PAKS under the Hobbyist program? Sign up for an account on DECUServe. eisner.decus.org -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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DECUS/Connect free membership

by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

Hello, My connect (formely DECUS) membership has expired, and when I try to renew it I have seen the ?guest? membership option (the free one is gone). Is there any other organization whose members are elegible to obtain PAKS under the Hobbyist program?

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VCF East

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> writes: >Hello! >Okay. Go here: >http://hackaday.com/2015/04/23/vcf-east-x-the-mega-mix/ it gives an >excellent coda on the past weekend. > >In fact the photo shows the both of you there. And of course the >photographer, who I met there last year, of course, forgot the most >important part of that scene in front of it. Me. It also caught the >group working at its best. Hey Steve, your better side! :P That photo cuts off most of my ponytail. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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VCF East

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> writes: >Hello! >Magic word is "Gack!". Now I place you. I asked Dave what was with the >name on the Vax, and he confirmed it was yours. I wondered why it was >named after a second stage booster back from our years of sending >stuff into space, Think of the term, "Atlas-Agena" and you'll get my >reasoning. It was named after a star in Beta Centauri. ;) >Dave was that the one who finally brought up the terminal server? >Oddly enough I have here three Model 90 terminal servers, but they are >the L Plus ones. When I arrived, there was a sparsely populated DEChub90 with a DECrepeater, IIRC (maybe it was a DECswitch) and a DECserver-90TL. Steve was working on getting the server image onto on of Dave's systems to MOP load it. Because I live close, I offered to run home and bring a couple of DECserver-90Ms as they can boot off of their own flash. I also brought some tools as my case with my VLC. Tools as I offered to make people MMJ cables once again and I threw in the VLC just in case. The in case proved to be a smart move. My VLC had VMS V7.3, DECnet/V and TCPIP Services, as well as a stockpile many MOP load images. Plugged in the VLC, booted it, defined the DECserver-90TL by its ethernet address, and voila! -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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VCF East

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> writes: >Hello! >Holy Mackerel. Steve, I was there, and saw that island of Dec in a >world of stuff. (Well one of many) . Which of the two were you again? >I met the fellow who goes by the handle of Vaxman, but I'm guessing >that you were the other fellow I spoke to who confirmed that >everything was working after a fashion. I don't remember. My mind's a blank. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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DEC EDITOR/BF05 info?

by b4＠gewt.net

Hey, I picked up this thing nobody could particularly identify... BF05 V1.0D Copyright 08-Dec-82 BF05>E=Editor,S=Set-up,P=Pass-thru,T=Test,H=Help BF05> Any ideas what the hell it IS or what the editor commands are? -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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Re: [DECtec] DEC Colours in Web Format

by pontus＠Update.UU.SE

Try sampling from this page (follow links for more goodies): http://www.quadibloc.com/comp/pan08.htm /P On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 11:52:45AM +0100, Mark Wickens wrote: > I know this question has been asked many times in the past and I'm > probably being lazy for not looking hard enough but does anyone have > a quick link to the colours of DEC that I can use on a web page - > rather than resort to a scanning effort. > > I'm thinking here about the colour of the orange/grey binders, the > blue and orange used in the PDP and VAX era paint schemes. > > Thank you > > Mark. > > -- > > DECtec mailing list > http://dectec.info > > To unsubscribe from this list see page at: http://dectec.info/mailman/listinfo/dectec_dectec.info

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