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by jferraro＠gmail.com

Heh... this is obviously the way we did it in UNIX decades ago... I always complained about trying to use UNIX for the very thing it seemingly opposed (strict user controls) ... ... and we still do this; I can't keep users out of the OS an in the app... argh... Surely VMS can do better! On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Jerome H. Fine <jhfinedp3k at compsys.to> wrote: >Sampsa Laine wrote: What would be the correct security settings for a directory that: - Allows anyone to add a file - Anyone can read any file - Nobody can delete, edit or replace existing files. Thinking of setting this up on CHIMPY for people to store nifty stuff they find. Just a suggestion. Why not have TWO directories? (a) WRITE ONLY - anyone can send files to it - normally named: INCOMING (b) READ ONLY - anyone can read any file Just in case, you can (probably should) monitor what is added to (a), then copy it over to (b) ONLY after it is checked. Having (a) which only you can look at (you might allow the contents to be displayed, but I would not recommend it) provides much better security. I also suggest that for any file larger that 10 MB, an MD5 checksum also be sent so you can verify the large file was sent correctly. Jerome Fine

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by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

On 08/10/2013 13:35, Joe Ferraro wrote: Yeah, that's the way to go. I'm tempted to buy an ancient Nokia GSM phone, get a data number for it and a serial adapter, and plug it into my DS300..9600 bps dial up access, woo hoo! I kinda still enjoy dial up... are there any active modems on 'the net'? Sampsa, you and I tried this once, a long time back... not sure if we ever connected, but I didn't have POTS at the time... You can try SLAVE which is connected via a dial up. Not tried it in a while but it should still work OK. +44 15394 22404 Regards, Mark. -- http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://hecnet.eu http://declegacy.org.uk http://retrochallenge.net https://twitter.com/#!/%40urbancamo

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OpenVMS 6.1 Cluster - Alpha not booting to form cluster

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

In an NI cluster you can get away with expectedvotes=votes. IMHO disk corruption can only happen if another host accesses a local disk outside the DLM. In a CI or DSSI cluster this can happen and lead to multiply allocated blocks errors. An alpha takes more time waiting to form a cluster, even with expectedvotes set to votes than a VAX. I haven't tried it on an rx2600 as yet. In production I once configured a two node VAX 3100 NI cluster. Expectedvotes set to 2 and votes to 1. Each node had a local disk designated as quorum disk, one vote. All other disks were shadows et between the two systems. This thoroughly unsupported configuration ran for years until DEC forced a micro VAX 2000 on us. The supported cluster had more user down time once one of the host went down. In the unsupported cluster the vote of a quorum disk came into play only if the other VAX failed and almost noticeable, no cluster reconfiguration that took many seconds. Hans Van: Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- Verzonden: dinsdag 8 oktober 2013 13:15 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] OpenVMS 6.1 Cluster - Alpha not booting to form cluster Mark Wickens writes: >On 08/10/2013 11:33, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: >> Mark Wickens writes: >> >>> Just wondered if anyone would know why my Alpha when booting hangs at >>> the point where it attempting to determine whether to join or form a VMS >>> cluster? It is clustered with a VAX - if I boot the VAX first the VAX >>> creates a cluster which the Alpha will then happily join when turned on, >>> but if I power the Alpha without the VAX it just hangs. >>> >>> Both are running an install straight from an original VMS 6.1 >>> installation disk. >> Just 2 nodes? >> >> What's your quorum configuration? >> >> Post: >> >> $ MCR SYSGEN SHOW VOTES >> $ MCR SYSGEN SHOW EXPECTED_VOTES >> >> ..from each node. >I think you, sir, may have found the issue: > >On RIPLEY (the Alpha): > >$ mcr sysgen show votes >Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic >-------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- >------- >VOTES 1 1 0 127 Votes >$ mcr sysgen show expected votes >Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic >-------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- >------- >EXPECTED_VOTES 2 1 1 127 Votes > > >On DALLAS (the VAX): > >$ mcr sysgen show votes >Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic >-------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- >------- >VOTES 1 1 0 127 Votes >$ mcr sysgen show expected votes >Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic >-------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- >------- >EXPECTED_VOTES 1 1 1 127 Votes OK. First, 2 node clusters can be problematic due to not realy having the necessary number of node to properly form a cluster. The minimum is three nodes to form a cluster. However, let's look at what you said. You said that the VAX boots and forms a cluster. It has one vote and the expected votes is one. Therefore, when you boot it, it sees the necessary number of votes to continue booting and form a cluster. You also said that Alpha boots and hangs trying to form a cluster. It too has one vote but its expected votes is two. Therefore, until the VAX has booted, the number of votes is not present and the Alpha will hang. If you lower expected votes, the Alpha wil boot just like the VAX does. I would caution you read the VMS documentation regarding clusters and how to determine quorum. You risk, in the configuration of two nodes where each has one vote and expected votes of one, partitioning the cluster resulting in data corruption. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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OpenVMS 6.1 Cluster - Alpha not booting to form cluster

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

On 08/10/2013 12:15, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: Mark Wickens writes: On 08/10/2013 11:33, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: Mark Wickens writes: Just wondered if anyone would know why my Alpha when booting hangs at the point where it attempting to determine whether to join or form a VMS cluster? It is clustered with a VAX - if I boot the VAX first the VAX creates a cluster which the Alpha will then happily join when turned on, but if I power the Alpha without the VAX it just hangs. Both are running an install straight from an original VMS 6.1 installation disk. Just 2 nodes? What's your quorum configuration? Post: $ MCR SYSGEN SHOW VOTES $ MCR SYSGEN SHOW EXPECTED_VOTES ..from each node. I think you, sir, may have found the issue: On RIPLEY (the Alpha): $ mcr sysgen show votes Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------- VOTES 1 1 0 127 Votes $ mcr sysgen show expected votes Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------- EXPECTED_VOTES 2 1 1 127 Votes On DALLAS (the VAX): $ mcr sysgen show votes Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------- VOTES 1 1 0 127 Votes $ mcr sysgen show expected votes Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------- EXPECTED_VOTES 1 1 1 127 Votes OK. First, 2 node clusters can be problematic due to not realy having the necessary number of node to properly form a cluster. The minimum is three nodes to form a cluster. However, let's look at what you said. You said that the VAX boots and forms a cluster. It has one vote and the expected votes is one. Therefore, when you boot it, it sees the necessary number of votes to continue booting and form a cluster. You also said that Alpha boots and hangs trying to form a cluster. It too has one vote but its expected votes is two. Therefore, until the VAX has booted, the number of votes is not present and the Alpha will hang. If you lower expected votes, the Alpha wil boot just like the VAX does. I would caution you read the VMS documentation regarding clusters and how to determine quorum. You risk, in the configuration of two nodes where each has one vote and expected votes of one, partitioning the cluster resulting in data corruption. Thanks for the reminder of these issues. To be honest my experience with clustering is limited and generally specific to satellite based configurations. In this case I may make the VAX a satellite of the Alpha with the local disk acting as page/swap. Am I right in thinking then that the relationship changes somewhat in that the Alpha will always need to be up but the VAX can come and go as it pleases (with the correct shutdown sequence)? Regards, Mark. -- http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://hecnet.eu http://declegacy.org.uk http://retrochallenge.net https://twitter.com/#!/%40urbancamo

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by jferraro＠gmail.com

Yeah, that's the way to go. I'm tempted to buy an ancient Nokia GSM phone, get a data number for it and a serial adapter, and plug it into my DS300..9600 bps dial up access, woo hoo! I kinda still enjoy dial up... are there any active modems on 'the net'? Sampsa, you and I tried this once, a long time back... not sure if we ever connected, but I didn't have POTS at the time...

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OpenVMS 6.1 Cluster - Alpha not booting to form cluster

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Mark Wickens writes: On 08/10/2013 11:33, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: Mark Wickens writes: Just wondered if anyone would know why my Alpha when booting hangs at the point where it attempting to determine whether to join or form a VMS cluster? It is clustered with a VAX - if I boot the VAX first the VAX creates a cluster which the Alpha will then happily join when turned on, but if I power the Alpha without the VAX it just hangs. Both are running an install straight from an original VMS 6.1 installation disk. Just 2 nodes? What's your quorum configuration? Post: $ MCR SYSGEN SHOW VOTES $ MCR SYSGEN SHOW EXPECTED_VOTES ..from each node. I think you, sir, may have found the issue: On RIPLEY (the Alpha): $ mcr sysgen show votes Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------- VOTES 1 1 0 127 Votes $ mcr sysgen show expected votes Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------- EXPECTED_VOTES 2 1 1 127 Votes On DALLAS (the VAX): $ mcr sysgen show votes Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------- VOTES 1 1 0 127 Votes $ mcr sysgen show expected votes Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------- EXPECTED_VOTES 1 1 1 127 Votes OK. First, 2 node clusters can be problematic due to not realy having the necessary number of node to properly form a cluster. The minimum is three nodes to form a cluster. However, let's look at what you said. You said that the VAX boots and forms a cluster. It has one vote and the expected votes is one. Therefore, when you boot it, it sees the necessary number of votes to continue booting and form a cluster. You also said that Alpha boots and hangs trying to form a cluster. It too has one vote but its expected votes is two. Therefore, until the VAX has booted, the number of votes is not present and the Alpha will hang. If you lower expected votes, the Alpha wil boot just like the VAX does. I would caution you read the VMS documentation regarding clusters and how to determine quorum. You risk, in the configuration of two nodes where each has one vote and expected votes of one, partitioning the cluster resulting in data corruption. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

On 08/10/2013 06:24, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Daniel Soderstrom wrote: Oh.. I thought that somehow LAT was routable over DECnet. I thought I remember in the old days some remote sites just had a terminal server and a couple of terminals. Many beers ago. So, I could go from the DECserver to my local vax, and then bounce out? That's what I do. (Well, DECserver to a FreeBSD box, and then to the world if I want to send email...like this particular one was sent from a VT320 on a DECserver 200/MC) Last night I was basking in the glow of an orange VT320 as I used that and a DECserver to get around HECNET. AFAIR Johnny's bridge is capable of forwarding LAT so I can see a load of services on the DECSERVER if I type SHOW SERVICE. I also noticed that SET HOST LA75, which is meant to be a printer port on the DECSERVER in the basement gave me SYSTEM access to SLAVE. Woops, a little reconfiguration required there! Regards, Mark. Daniel. On 08/10/2013, at 10:27 AM, Tim Sneddon <tim at sneddon.id.au> wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: On 8 Oct 2013, at 04:19, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Daniel Soderstrom wrote: SET HOST EISNER straight from a DECServer will be nice. A DECserver speaking DECnet? That'd be awesome to have. Mine (albeit awesome, and one of my favourite things) only speaks LAT. ;) My DS300 does inbound Telnet as well as inbound/outbound LAT and serial :) No DECNET as far as I know. I don't recall a DECserver that talks DECnet. It is the wrong protocol for that type of communication. DECservers originally only spoke LAT, which was developed specifically for local area communications (which it does very well). Regards, Tim. -- http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://hecnet.eu http://declegacy.org.uk http://retrochallenge.net https://twitter.com/#!/%40urbancamo

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OpenVMS 6.1 Cluster - Alpha not booting to form cluster

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

On 08/10/2013 11:33, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: Mark Wickens writes: Just wondered if anyone would know why my Alpha when booting hangs at the point where it attempting to determine whether to join or form a VMS cluster? It is clustered with a VAX - if I boot the VAX first the VAX creates a cluster which the Alpha will then happily join when turned on, but if I power the Alpha without the VAX it just hangs. Both are running an install straight from an original VMS 6.1 installation disk. Just 2 nodes? What's your quorum configuration? Post: $ MCR SYSGEN SHOW VOTES $ MCR SYSGEN SHOW EXPECTED_VOTES ..from each node. I think you, sir, may have found the issue: On RIPLEY (the Alpha): $ mcr sysgen show votes Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------- VOTES 1 1 0 127 Votes $ mcr sysgen show expected votes Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------- EXPECTED_VOTES 2 1 1 127 Votes On DALLAS (the VAX): $ mcr sysgen show votes Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------- VOTES 1 1 0 127 Votes $ mcr sysgen show expected votes Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------- EXPECTED_VOTES 1 1 1 127 Votes -- http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://hecnet.eu http://declegacy.org.uk http://retrochallenge.net https://twitter.com/#!/%40urbancamo

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OpenVMS 6.1 Cluster - Alpha not booting to form cluster

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Mark Wickens writes: Just wondered if anyone would know why my Alpha when booting hangs at the point where it attempting to determine whether to join or form a VMS cluster? It is clustered with a VAX - if I boot the VAX first the VAX creates a cluster which the Alpha will then happily join when turned on, but if I power the Alpha without the VAX it just hangs. Both are running an install straight from an original VMS 6.1 installation disk. Just 2 nodes? What's your quorum configuration? Post: $ MCR SYSGEN SHOW VOTES $ MCR SYSGEN SHOW EXPECTED_VOTES ..from each node. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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OpenVMS 6.1 Cluster - Alpha not booting to form cluster

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Just wondered if anyone would know why my Alpha when booting hangs at the point where it attempting to determine whether to join or form a VMS cluster? It is clustered with a VAX - if I boot the VAX first the VAX creates a cluster which the Alpha will then happily join when turned on, but if I power the Alpha without the VAX it just hangs. Both are running an install straight from an original VMS 6.1 installation disk. Regards, Mark. -- http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://hecnet.eu http://declegacy.org.uk http://retrochallenge.net https://twitter.com/#!/%40urbancamo

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DEC Salle 1987

by sampsa＠mac.com

$ CREATE/DIRECTORY DROPBOX:[DROPBOX] $ SET SECURITY DROPBOX:[000000]DROPBOX.DIR/OWNER=... - /PROTECTION=(S:WRE,O:WRE,G:WRE,W:WRE) - /ACL=(DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:WRED,OWNER:R,GROUP:R,WORLD:R) I've had a little play and it seems to work as expected. Well, as I expect it to. I'll try that once I've had some sleep, been up far too long again.. Sampsa

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DEC Salle 1987

by tim＠sneddon.id.au

On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Tim Sneddon wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 8 Oct 2013, at 01:52, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Do we have an intranet site only accessible via DECnet? I dont put any (much) personal information on the net. Daniel. That's what I'm trying to do with the "Dropbox" on CHIMPY:: - anyone can add or view files, but not delete or edit them. Just not sure what the correct security setting for the directory should be... Is this type of security option on a dir possible? I can't figure out how to set it up, but somebody amongst you gurus must know :) You can set RWE for world set on the directory by default, but have a script periodically set all files to w:RE only. There's probably a better way to do it, though. That sounds pretty, well, yuck. I prefer the "outside the box" approach to solving problems. ;) Weird > elegant in my book usually. I can certainly appreciate your interest there. However, it just makes my skin crawl. If you do it right the first time... Not that I have given it much thought you would likely be able to achieve this sort of environment using ACLs. I recommend checking out the VMS security manual. Do ACLs like that carry over DECnet? I seem to recall Brian S. saying they don't. You are correct, sort of. However, you wouldn't apply the ACL to the file. Rather, specify a default protection ACL on the directory to contain the files. This would configure the security attributes of any file placed in it, which to my thinking should work. I use something similar so that when I copy stuff into my FTP directories they are immediately set up to be served via either HTTP for FTP. Here is an example of the way to set it up (assuming DROPBOX is CONCEALED logical): $ CREATE/DIRECTORY DROPBOX:[DROPBOX] $ SET SECURITY DROPBOX:[000000]DROPBOX.DIR/OWNER=... - /PROTECTION=(S:WRE,O:WRE,G:WRE,W:WRE) - /ACL=(DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:WRED,OWNER:R,GROUP:R,WORLD:R) I've had a little play and it seems to work as expected. Well, as I expect it to. Regards, Tim.

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FYI: UUHECNET gateway now officially open

by b4＠gewt.net

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote: Thanks to Cory's efforts and the advice of the community, we finally rigged up a VMS box to talk to UUHECNET directly. There's actual RS-232 involved, too. Along with a utility named "ser2net". The address format is: MOIRA::uucp%"host!host!etc!username" Most hosts are connected to b4gate, so a bangpath starting with b4gate will probably get your message delivered. I've tested this with originating a message from RSTS/E (9.7) and CHIMPY. Replies in all directions work. The UUHECnet relay will work properly for all once Johnny updates 9.1 to MOIRA, nukes the current MOIRA, and everyone pulls the current database. Replies from UUHECNET also work. Sampsa -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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FYI: UUHECNET gateway now officially open

by sampsa＠mac.com

Thanks to Cory's efforts and the advice of the community, we finally rigged up a VMS box to talk to UUHECNET directly. The address format is: MOIRA::uucp%"host!host!etc!username" Most hosts are connected to b4gate, so a bangpath starting with b4gate will probably get your message delivered. Replies from UUHECNET also work. Sampsa

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by b4＠gewt.net

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Daniel Soderstrom wrote: Oh.. I thought that somehow LAT was routable over DECnet. I thought I remember in the old days some remote sites just had a terminal server and a couple of terminals. Many beers ago. So, I could go from the DECserver to my local vax, and then bounce out? That's what I do. (Well, DECserver to a FreeBSD box, and then to the world if I want to send email...like this particular one was sent from a VT320 on a DECserver 200/MC) Daniel. On 08/10/2013, at 10:27 AM, Tim Sneddon <tim at sneddon.id.au> wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: On 8 Oct 2013, at 04:19, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Daniel Soderstrom wrote: SET HOST EISNER straight from a DECServer will be nice. A DECserver speaking DECnet? That'd be awesome to have. Mine (albeit awesome, and one of my favourite things) only speaks LAT. ;) My DS300 does inbound Telnet as well as inbound/outbound LAT and serial :) No DECNET as far as I know. I don't recall a DECserver that talks DECnet. It is the wrong protocol for that type of communication. DECservers originally only spoke LAT, which was developed specifically for local area communications (which it does very well). Regards, Tim. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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DEC Salle 1987

by sampsa＠mac.com

That sounds pretty, well, yuck. I prefer the "outside the box" approach to solving problems. ;) Weird > elegant in my book usually. Not that I have given it much thought you would likely be able to achieve this sort of environment using ACLs. I recommend checking out the VMS security manual. Do ACLs like that carry over DECnet? I seem to recall Brian S. saying they don't. Guys, I decided to go with a more or less free-for-all environment, I'll make batch job that will set the FILE/PROT to W:RE every couple of hours but right now, CHIMPY::[.DROPBOX] is open to everyone. BTW, the SAMPSA*.* images are me, I think this "Faces of HECnet" project would be cool. sampsa

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DEC Salle 1987

by b4＠gewt.net

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Tim Sneddon wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 8 Oct 2013, at 01:52, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Do we have an intranet site only accessible via DECnet? I dont put any (much) personal information on the net. Daniel. That's what I'm trying to do with the "Dropbox" on CHIMPY:: - anyone can add or view files, but not delete or edit them. Just not sure what the correct security setting for the directory should be... Is this type of security option on a dir possible? I can't figure out how to set it up, but somebody amongst you gurus must know :) You can set RWE for world set on the directory by default, but have a script periodically set all files to w:RE only. There's probably a better way to do it, though. That sounds pretty, well, yuck. I prefer the "outside the box" approach to solving problems. ;) Weird > elegant in my book usually. Not that I have given it much thought you would likely be able to achieve this sort of environment using ACLs. I recommend checking out the VMS security manual. Do ACLs like that carry over DECnet? I seem to recall Brian S. saying they don't. Regards, Tim. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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by b4＠gewt.net

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Tim Sneddon wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: On 8 Oct 2013, at 04:19, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Daniel Soderstrom wrote: SET HOST EISNER straight from a DECServer will be nice. A DECserver speaking DECnet? That'd be awesome to have. Mine (albeit awesome, and one of my favourite things) only speaks LAT. ;) My DS300 does inbound Telnet as well as inbound/outbound LAT and serial :) No DECNET as far as I know. I don't recall a DECserver that talks DECnet. It is the wrong protocol for that type of communication. DECservers originally only spoke LAT, which was developed specifically for local area communications (which it does very well). That it does indeed do very well. ;) Regards, Tim. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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Public "dropbox" type directory?

by jhfinedp3k＠compsys.to

>Sampsa Laine wrote: What would be the correct security settings for a directory that: - Allows anyone to add a file - Anyone can read any file - Nobody can delete, edit or replace existing files. Thinking of setting this up on CHIMPY for people to store nifty stuff they find. Just a suggestion. Why not have TWO directories? (a) WRITE ONLY - anyone can send files to it - normally named: INCOMING (b) READ ONLY - anyone can read any file Just in case, you can (probably should) monitor what is added to (a), then copy it over to (b) ONLY after it is checked. Having (a) which only you can look at (you might allow the contents to be displayed, but I would not recommend it) provides much better security. I also suggest that for any file larger that 10 MB, an MD5 checksum also be sent so you can verify the large file was sent correctly. Jerome Fine

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Face of HECnet

by sampsa＠mac.com

I've uploaded a picture of me (doing something stupid, obviously) to CHIMPY::[.DROPBOX]SAMPSA1.SIXEL There is also a SAMPSA2.SIXEL, I can't recall what the difference between the files is... sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +358 40 7208932

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EISNER:: ?

by sampsa＠mac.com

sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +358 40 7208932 On 8 Oct 2013, at 05:02, Daniel Soderstrom <snaggs at mac.com> wrote: Could you wack one of these into terminal on the other end and effectively have a remote terminal? Daniel. Yup and since the inbound number is a GSM DATA number, there's none of that annoying modem handshaking going on.

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by sampsa＠mac.com

Oh I'm still stuck in Egypt (Al Qaida blew up the State Security office I was meant to go to in Al Tour to get my exit visa).. I'm just planning future features for the HILANT:: cluster :) sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +358 40 7208932 On 8 Oct 2013, at 05:02, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: Hello! Sampsa where are you based at the moment? Looking at what you posted, I guess I'm a bit surprised. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Yeah, that's the way to go. I'm tempted to buy an ancient Nokia GSM phone, get a data number for it and a serial adapter, and plug it into my DS300..9600 bps dial up access, woo hoo! Hmm, looks like the Nokia 9210 can combine several GSM channels for thruput up to 38400 bps with the right configuration and it's effectively an ISDN connection (V.110). I think I need to acquire one of these, data line subscriptions are cheap in Finland and the phone costs about 50 GBP...

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by snaggs＠mac.com

Could you wack one of these into terminal on the other end and effectively have a remote terminal? Daniel. On 08/10/2013, at 10:57 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Yeah, that's the way to go. I'm tempted to buy an ancient Nokia GSM phone, get a data number for it and a serial adapter, and plug it into my DS300..9600 bps dial up access, woo hoo! Hmm, looks like the Nokia 9210 can combine several GSM channels for thruput up to 38400 bps with the right configuration and it's effectively an ISDN connection (V.110). I think I need to acquire one of these, data line subscriptions are cheap in Finland and the phone costs about 50 GBP...

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by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

Hello! Sampsa where are you based at the moment? Looking at what you posted, I guess I'm a bit surprised. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Yeah, that's the way to go. I'm tempted to buy an ancient Nokia GSM phone, get a data number for it and a serial adapter, and plug it into my DS300..9600 bps dial up access, woo hoo! Hmm, looks like the Nokia 9210 can combine several GSM channels for thruput up to 38400 bps with the right configuration and it's effectively an ISDN connection (V.110). I think I need to acquire one of these, data line subscriptions are cheap in Finland and the phone costs about 50 GBP...

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by sampsa＠mac.com

Yeah, that's the way to go. I'm tempted to buy an ancient Nokia GSM phone, get a data number for it and a serial adapter, and plug it into my DS300..9600 bps dial up access, woo hoo! Hmm, looks like the Nokia 9210 can combine several GSM channels for thruput up to 38400 bps with the right configuration and it's effectively an ISDN connection (V.110). I think I need to acquire one of these, data line subscriptions are cheap in Finland and the phone costs about 50 GBP...

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