There are very few people in the industry HERE who would even know
what "an nmap scan" is, much less how or why to run one.
Oh really? By now I thought even non-security people were using it for network analysis etc..
Basically for anyone who cares, nmap scan hosts in an IP range, tells you what ports are open and tries to fingerprint the software running the port.
I worked in that industry twenty years ago. It was bad then. In the
past few weeks I've had a lot of contact with it due to a new contract,
and much to my horror, I've found that it has become far, far worse.
Worse as in more corporate / boring or worse as in the attacks are just getting out of control?
Sampsa
On 10 Oct 2013, at 08:17, Daniel Soderstrom <snaggs at mac.com> wrote:
Has anyone tries this? Running my Vaxstation non-stop reminds me how much noise these old drives make.
Has anyone tried SSD drives? Must be good for the PSU it terms of heat and current draw.
This set me off thinking. I have a CF to IDE adapter (40-pin + floppy power, not 44-pin) somewhere and a SCSIDE adapter. I wonder if I could Solid-State my VS4000/60 with a 2GB CF card :)
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On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I am pretty proud of CP/M-o-Tron and UUHECNET though - totally pointless, relatively complex but cool in a retro way.
Yeah. UUHECNET got crazier once I got connected.
MOIRA!madeline!meaghan!b4 et al.
By summer 2014 I plan to have an AmigaOS (or compatible) node as well as a CBM 128 (real box, not emulated) connected as well.
Next we need SysV. If I weren't out of serial adapters I'd have that going.
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On 10 Oct 2013, at 19:04, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
I am pretty proud of CP/M-o-Tron and UUHECNET though - totally pointless, relatively complex but cool in a retro way.
Yeah. UUHECNET got crazier once I got connected.
MOIRA!madeline!meaghan!b4 et al.
By summer 2014 I plan to have an AmigaOS (or compatible) node as well as a CBM 128 (real box, not emulated) connected as well.
If you a classic Amiga (3.9?) running on HECNET I want to know how so I can add my Amiga 4000 too :)
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On 10/10/2013 02:02 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Don't go looking for a job in that industry...they don't work that
way at all. It's all about a degree, a certain physical
appearance, short hair, a tie, the ability to kiss ass...getting
actual work done is not in the picture.
I'm fighting with a bunch of those very stuffed shirts right now,
today in fact. The annoyance is fresh.
Hmm, maybe in the US, but the guys I worked with who had SC and DV
(DV = highest security clearance issued by HM Gov) used to walk
around in shorts and sandals.
I'm talking about in the US.
One of our favourite hobbies was trying to shoot down a remote
controlled helicopter with an Airsoft AK47 whilst waiting for say an
nmap scan to finish.
But I got bored on penetration testing after a few years, especially
when it all became "Look for holes in this web app", so moved on..
There are very few people in the industry HERE who would even know
what "an nmap scan" is, much less how or why to run one.
I worked in that industry twenty years ago. It was bad then. In the
past few weeks I've had a lot of contact with it due to a new contract,
and much to my horror, I've found that it has become far, far worse.
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
On 10/10/2013 01:59 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
It's intended to point out that a lot of modern CompSci students can't
quite think outside the box...only by what the book, GitHub, Ruby
conferences, and their elitist communities tell them.
If the situation really has become that good, I applaud it. Just a
few short years ago, most modern "CompSci" students answer any question
with a list of Microsoft products available for purchase.
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
I am pretty proud of CP/M-o-Tron and UUHECNET though - totally pointless, relatively complex but cool in a retro way.
Yeah. UUHECNET got crazier once I got connected.
MOIRA!madeline!meaghan!b4 et al.
By summer 2014 I plan to have an AmigaOS (or compatible) node as well as a CBM 128 (real box, not emulated) connected as well.
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/10/2013 01:55 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I also need to get a job that would support that. Along with a job that
uses my...unusual talents.
Perhaps idiot-proofing stuff for defense contractors? I can break
anything. ;
Don't go looking for a job in that industry...they don't work that way
at all. It's all about a degree, a certain physical appearance, short
hair, a tie, the ability to kiss ass...getting actual work done is not
in the picture.
Good point. I'm only good at getting actual work done. Certainly not by the book, too. That's why that comment was 90% joking.
I'm fighting with a bunch of those very stuffed shirts right now,
today in fact. The annoyance is fresh.
That must be awful.
-Dave
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Don't go looking for a job in that industry...they don't work that way
at all. It's all about a degree, a certain physical appearance, short
hair, a tie, the ability to kiss ass...getting actual work done is not
in the picture.
I'm fighting with a bunch of those very stuffed shirts right now,
today in fact. The annoyance is fresh.
Hmm, maybe in the US, but the guys I worked with who had SC and DV (DV = highest security clearance issued by HM Gov) used to walk around in shorts and sandals.
One of our favourite hobbies was trying to shoot down a remote controlled helicopter with an Airsoft AK47 whilst waiting for say an nmap scan to finish.
But I got bored on penetration testing after a few years, especially when it all became "Look for holes in this web app", so moved on..
sampsa
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
My slogan is 'WELCOME TO SAMPSACOM - We like naming things after monkeys'
You also have that WELCOME.TXT on CHIMPY:: mentioning timesharing on a babbage engine.
I'm still looking for a nice Babbage Engine Simulator that will run in VMS :)
That'd be neat.
I am pretty proud of CP/M-o-Tron and UUHECNET though - totally pointless, relatively complex but cool in a retro way.
Yeah. UUHECNET got crazier once I got connected.
MOIRA!madeline!meaghan!b4 et al.
Sampsa
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On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
(Correct answer: open a file, write to a file, close the file, write a client to open the file periodically. Other answers: /dev/shm, writing to VGA memory directly, using serial lines, rsync to remote system)
How does that get served over the internet?
I never said it had to be. I mistyped...the original question i asked said "httpd".
I also, rsync uses sockets, no?
It doesn't have to.
I like the idea of implementing your own SLIP + HTTPD over serial though..
I do too. That's why it's a correct answer. ;)
It's intended to point out that a lot of modern CompSci students can't quite think outside the box...only by what the book, GitHub, Ruby conferences, and their elitist communities tell them.
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On 10/10/2013 01:55 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I also need to get a job that would support that. Along with a job that
uses my...unusual talents.
Perhaps idiot-proofing stuff for defense contractors? I can break
anything. ;
Don't go looking for a job in that industry...they don't work that way
at all. It's all about a degree, a certain physical appearance, short
hair, a tie, the ability to kiss ass...getting actual work done is not
in the picture.
I'm fighting with a bunch of those very stuffed shirts right now,
today in fact. The annoyance is fresh.
-Dave
--
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New Kensington, PA
My slogan is 'WELCOME TO SAMPSACOM - We like naming things after monkeys'
You also have that WELCOME.TXT on CHIMPY:: mentioning timesharing on a babbage engine.
I'm still looking for a nice Babbage Engine Simulator that will run in VMS :)
I am pretty proud of CP/M-o-Tron and UUHECNET though - totally pointless, relatively complex but cool in a retro way.
Sampsa
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/10/2013 01:45 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
If I want to move something...I will move it. There's room in the
glovebox, centre compartment, under seats...you name it. ;)
That's the spirit!
Some might call me crazy, I agree but add "determined" to the list of
adjectives.
This is good.
We might just make a collector out of me yet!
You need to figure out how to get some space. In the middle of the
Rust Belt, it shouldn't be too tough.
I also need to get a job that would support that. Along with a job that uses my...unusual talents.
Perhaps idiot-proofing stuff for defense contractors? I can break anything. ;
-Dave
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http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
(Correct answer: open a file, write to a file, close the file, write a client to open the file periodically. Other answers: /dev/shm, writing to VGA memory directly, using serial lines, rsync to remote system)
How does that get served over the internet?
I also, rsync uses sockets, no?
I like the idea of implementing your own SLIP + HTTPD over serial though..
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
For comparison the provider I use:
"Welcome - TortoiseLabs" (They are steady, but not exactly slow.)
My slogan is 'WELCOME TO SAMPSACOM - We like naming things after monkeys'
You also have that WELCOME.TXT on CHIMPY:: mentioning timesharing on a babbage engine.
I have limited the number of systems I have due to using a small pool: female names starting with M.
(From the normal: madeline, to the odd: meaghan (people joke about the spelling all the time), to the weird suggestions by friends: mcguyverina)
I know bonerhitler is an exception, along with green and sprinkles.
sampsa
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yOn Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/10/2013 01:42 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/10/2013 01:36 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
While we're on FDDI... I have an FDDI NIC free to a good home. It's
a DEFPA-DA -- dual attached fiber, PCI (5V 32 bit). I have no way to
test it, but the person who gave it to me believed it to be
operational. No drivers or any other software.
First response gets it (email with shipping info direct to me,
please).
FYI, this card is supported by most major OSs. There are even drivers
for it for MacOS 9.
Now that's just plain weird. Can OS 9's stacks even handle FE? ;)
Barely. OpenTransport is, at least, a whole lot better than MacTCP.
Didn't bits of OpenTransport support STREAMS, too? Or am I thinking of
something else?
Hmm, I don't know offhand.
-Dave
Every time I mention STREAMS someone always jokes that nobody uses it. ;)
I once said: "I have a challenge most modern CompSci students probably can't solve: make a web server without using pipes, sockets, STREAMS, or fifos"
Along with some people answering with good answers, they'd also say "Nobody uses STREAMS, dude"
(Correct answer: open a file, write to a file, close the file, write a client to open the file periodically. Other answers: /dev/shm, writing to VGA memory directly, using serial lines, rsync to remote system)
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On 10/10/2013 01:45 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
If I want to move something...I will move it. There's room in the
glovebox, centre compartment, under seats...you name it. ;)
That's the spirit!
Some might call me crazy, I agree but add "determined" to the list of
adjectives.
This is good.
We might just make a collector out of me yet!
You need to figure out how to get some space. In the middle of the
Rust Belt, it shouldn't be too tough.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/10/2013 01:41 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, that's definitely something we should do. There's no way I can
move the majority of that stuff down here. A lot of it I'll just never
run and so will likely put up to be given away.
Sounds good. It can sit here in the meantime, if you want.
The stuff he won't run can possible come here in November. ;)
I'm not sure how much space is gonna be left...I'll happily sit with a
VAX on my lap along with several at my feet if I must. (I'd be
passenger...don't worry!)
If I want to move something...I will move it. There's room in the
glovebox, centre compartment, under seats...you name it. ;)
That's the spirit!
Some might call me crazy, I agree but add "determined" to the list of
adjectives.
This is good.
We might just make a collector out of me yet!
-Dave
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
For comparison the provider I use:
"Welcome - TortoiseLabs" (They are steady, but not exactly slow.)
My slogan is 'WELCOME TO SAMPSACOM - We like naming things after monkeys'
sampsa
On 10/10/2013 01:42 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/10/2013 01:36 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
While we're on FDDI... I have an FDDI NIC free to a good home. It's
a DEFPA-DA -- dual attached fiber, PCI (5V 32 bit). I have no way to
test it, but the person who gave it to me believed it to be
operational. No drivers or any other software.
First response gets it (email with shipping info direct to me,
please).
FYI, this card is supported by most major OSs. There are even drivers
for it for MacOS 9.
Now that's just plain weird. Can OS 9's stacks even handle FE? ;)
Barely. OpenTransport is, at least, a whole lot better than MacTCP.
Didn't bits of OpenTransport support STREAMS, too? Or am I thinking of
something else?
Hmm, I don't know offhand.
-Dave
--
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New Kensington, PA
On 10/10/2013 01:41 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, that's definitely something we should do. There's no way I can
move the majority of that stuff down here. A lot of it I'll just never
run and so will likely put up to be given away.
Sounds good. It can sit here in the meantime, if you want.
The stuff he won't run can possible come here in November. ;)
I'm not sure how much space is gonna be left...I'll happily sit with a
VAX on my lap along with several at my feet if I must. (I'd be
passenger...don't worry!)
If I want to move something...I will move it. There's room in the
glovebox, centre compartment, under seats...you name it. ;)
That's the spirit!
Some might call me crazy, I agree but add "determined" to the list of
adjectives.
This is good.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/10/2013 01:36 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
While we're on FDDI... I have an FDDI NIC free to a good home. It's
a DEFPA-DA -- dual attached fiber, PCI (5V 32 bit). I have no way to
test it, but the person who gave it to me believed it to be
operational. No drivers or any other software.
First response gets it (email with shipping info direct to me,
please).
FYI, this card is supported by most major OSs. There are even drivers
for it for MacOS 9.
Now that's just plain weird. Can OS 9's stacks even handle FE? ;)
Barely. OpenTransport is, at least, a whole lot better than MacTCP.
Didn't bits of OpenTransport support STREAMS, too? Or am I thinking of something else?
-Dave
--
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http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
yOn Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/10/2013 01:35 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yeah, that's definitely something we should do. There's no way I can
move the majority of that stuff down here. A lot of it I'll just never
run and so will likely put up to be given away.
Sounds good. It can sit here in the meantime, if you want.
The stuff he won't run can possible come here in November. ;)
I'm not sure how much space is gonna be left...I'll happily sit with a
VAX on my lap along with several at my feet if I must. (I'd be
passenger...don't worry!)
If I want to move something...I will move it. There's room in the
glovebox, centre compartment, under seats...you name it. ;)
That's the spirit!
Some might call me crazy, I agree but add "determined" to the list of adjectives.
-Dave
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http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Hello!
That's because they are based in the Mojave Desert and staffed
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On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/10/2013 01:29 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
It reminds me of DigitalOcean. "SSD-backed cloud VPS!!!".
Damn suits.
Their <title> is overly SEO-optimised.
"SSD Cloud Server, VPS Server, Simple Cloud Hosting by DigitalOcean"
For comparison the provider I use:
"Welcome - TortoiseLabs" (They are steady, but not exactly slow.)
-Dave
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