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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 12/16/2012 03:42 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Heh, that'd be awesome, running MSDOS in QEMU on a MicroVAX 3400 :) Then, run an MS-DOS PDP-11 or VAX simulator. ;) Sick-o. ;) Once, whilst hanging out with a friend in Philadelphia around 1992 or so, gawking over his brand-new Sun SPARCstation-2...He ran up a copy of SoftPC under SunOS. I noticed that it emulated an 80286, so we hunted around and got a copy of SCO Xenix/286 and installed that under SoftPC, running under SunOS. It was slower than pissing tar, but it worked! (we were drinking a bit..) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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VAX compiler kits

by sampsa＠mac.com

Hans, Don't worry about it actually, Steve D is copying them onto the cluster as we speak. Sorry to bother you. Sampsa On 16 Dec 2012, at 22:46, H Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote: Sampsa telnet to ip address 87.209.50.192 and log on with these credentioals: username : gast password : hecnet I'm copying the savesets to hard disk. Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens sampsa at mac.com Verzonden: zondag, december 2012 21:03 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: [HECnet] VAX compiler kits I've managed to lose my VAX install kits for the various compilers (I have the full AXP SPD on RHESUS, but nothing for VAX). Anyone got pointers as to where to get these ? My credentials for ftp.usa.hp.com seem to have expired. sampsa

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Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful..

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On 12/16/2012 3:42 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-12-16 21:34, Cory Smelosky wrote: On 16 Dec 2012, at 15:31, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-16 17:20, sampsa at mac.com wrote: In case any of you guys need a lot of space to do some VAX related stuff, I've got a 12 member, 2926056 block bound volume on KUHAVX/SIIRI. Let me know if anyone wants an account. Can't you do any better? ;-) .df dev owner prot fprot size free label DU0: System 000000 160000 8380416. 4958377. RSX11MPBL87 DU3: System 000000 160000 16777216. 8188181. BIGDISK DU12: System 000000 160000 2379776. 163315. KITS DU13: System 000000 160000 2379776. 1138358. RSXFREEV2 .set /host Host=PONDUS RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87 . All units in blocks Excuse my ignorance, but what's the size of a block? ;) 512 bytes. So 16777216. blocks equals about 8 Gig. Which is the maximum size of a file system in RSX (well, support for 32-bit block numbers do exist, but is not enabled normally, so 24 bit block numbers is the normal limit). Don't make me whip out my ePeen! DRAKE (the 4000/90) has a pair of 146GB disks hanging off of it. I've also got 4x300G disks I'm thinking about putting on it as well. :) I should really see if that thing still boots. I should also replace the battery and find a proper disk enclosure for the disks in it (the SCA-50 adapters make them not fit right) -brian

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VAX compiler kits

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

Sampsa telnet to ip address 87.209.50.192 and log on with these credentioals: username : gast password : hecnet I'm copying the savesets to hard disk. Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens sampsa at mac.com Verzonden: zondag, december 2012 21:03 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: [HECnet] VAX compiler kits I've managed to lose my VAX install kits for the various compilers (I have the full AXP SPD on RHESUS, but nothing for VAX). Anyone got pointers as to where to get these ? My credentials for ftp.usa.hp.com seem to have expired. sampsa

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Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful..

by jeep＠scshome.net

This is just getting plain UGLY! :-) -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 15:43 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful.. On 16 Dec 2012, at 15:38, sampsa at mac.com wrote: Heh, that'd be awesome, running MSDOS in QEMU on a MicroVAX 3400 :) Then, run an MS-DOS PDP-11 or VAX simulator. ;) Sampsa On 16 Dec 2012, at 22:37, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 16 Dec 2012, at 15:34, sampsa at mac.com wrote: Nice :) I suppose I could've created some kind of custom HD devices that SIMH supports but Steve Davidson is already freaked out by my frankenVAX creations I'm coming up with..:) Still, offers open for anyone who needs to do something odd on a VAX and needs 10+ GB of space :) Something odd, eh? Hmmmm! Does qemu exist for OpenVMS VAX? Sampsa On 16 Dec 2012, at 22:31, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-16 17:20, sampsa at mac.com wrote: In case any of you guys need a lot of space to do some VAX related stuff, I've got a 12 member, 2926056 block bound volume on KUHAVX/SIIRI. Let me know if anyone wants an account. Can't you do any better? ;-) .df dev owner prot fprot size free label DU0: System 000000 160000 8380416. 4958377. RSX11MPBL87 DU3: System 000000 160000 16777216. 8188181. BIGDISK DU12: System 000000 160000 2379776. 163315. KITS DU13: System 000000 160000 2379776. 1138358. RSXFREEV2 .set /host Host=PONDUS RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87 . All units in blocks... And yes, PONDUS is a real PDP-11/93. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful..

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-12-16 21:34, Cory Smelosky wrote: On 16 Dec 2012, at 15:31, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-16 17:20, sampsa at mac.com wrote: In case any of you guys need a lot of space to do some VAX related stuff, I've got a 12 member, 2926056 block bound volume on KUHAVX/SIIRI. Let me know if anyone wants an account. Can't you do any better? ;-) .df dev owner prot fprot size free label DU0: System 000000 160000 8380416. 4958377. RSX11MPBL87 DU3: System 000000 160000 16777216. 8188181. BIGDISK DU12: System 000000 160000 2379776. 163315. KITS DU13: System 000000 160000 2379776. 1138358. RSXFREEV2 .set /host Host=PONDUS RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87 . All units in blocks Excuse my ignorance, but what's the size of a block? ;) 512 bytes. So 16777216. blocks equals about 8 Gig. Which is the maximum size of a file system in RSX (well, support for 32-bit block numbers do exist, but is not enabled normally, so 24 bit block numbers is the normal limit). And 512 bytes is the standard size of a disk block even on a new disk today (although 2K and 4K blocks have started to show up, but even those disks still support 512 byte blocks). Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful..

by b4＠gewt.net

On 16 Dec 2012, at 15:38, sampsa at mac.com wrote: Heh, that'd be awesome, running MSDOS in QEMU on a MicroVAX 3400 :) Then, run an MS-DOS PDP-11 or VAX simulator. ;) Sampsa On 16 Dec 2012, at 22:37, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 16 Dec 2012, at 15:34, sampsa at mac.com wrote: Nice :) I suppose I could've created some kind of custom HD devices that SIMH supports but Steve Davidson is already freaked out by my frankenVAX creations I'm coming up with..:) Still, offers open for anyone who needs to do something odd on a VAX and needs 10+ GB of space :) Something odd, eh? Hmmmm! Does qemu exist for OpenVMS VAX? Sampsa On 16 Dec 2012, at 22:31, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-16 17:20, sampsa at mac.com wrote: In case any of you guys need a lot of space to do some VAX related stuff, I've got a 12 member, 2926056 block bound volume on KUHAVX/SIIRI. Let me know if anyone wants an account. Can't you do any better? ;-) .df dev owner prot fprot size free label DU0: System 000000 160000 8380416. 4958377. RSX11MPBL87 DU3: System 000000 160000 16777216. 8188181. BIGDISK DU12: System 000000 160000 2379776. 163315. KITS DU13: System 000000 160000 2379776. 1138358. RSXFREEV2 .set /host Host=PONDUS RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87 . All units in blocks... And yes, PONDUS is a real PDP-11/93. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful..

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-12-16 21:34, Steve Davidson wrote: Johnny, Do you have one of the SCSI controllers for your 11-93? Yes. One CMD-220. Five disks and two tape drives attached. (DAT and Exabyte.) Johnny -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 15:32 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Cc: sampsa at mac.com Subject: Re: [HECnet] Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful.. On 2012-12-16 17:20, sampsa at mac.com wrote: In case any of you guys need a lot of space to do some VAX related stuff, I've got a 12 member, 2926056 block bound volume on KUHAVX/SIIRI. Let me know if anyone wants an account. Can't you do any better? ;-) .df dev owner prot fprot size free label DU0: System 000000 160000 8380416. 4958377. RSX11MPBL87 DU3: System 000000 160000 16777216. 8188181. BIGDISK DU12: System 000000 160000 2379776. 163315. KITS DU13: System 000000 160000 2379776. 1138358. RSXFREEV2 .set /host Host=PONDUS RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87 . All units in blocks... And yes, PONDUS is a real PDP-11/93. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful..

by sampsa＠mac.com

Heh, that'd be awesome, running MSDOS in QEMU on a MicroVAX 3400 :) Sampsa On 16 Dec 2012, at 22:37, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 16 Dec 2012, at 15:34, sampsa at mac.com wrote: Nice :) I suppose I could've created some kind of custom HD devices that SIMH supports but Steve Davidson is already freaked out by my frankenVAX creations I'm coming up with..:) Still, offers open for anyone who needs to do something odd on a VAX and needs 10+ GB of space :) Something odd, eh? Hmmmm! Does qemu exist for OpenVMS VAX? Sampsa On 16 Dec 2012, at 22:31, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-16 17:20, sampsa at mac.com wrote: In case any of you guys need a lot of space to do some VAX related stuff, I've got a 12 member, 2926056 block bound volume on KUHAVX/SIIRI. Let me know if anyone wants an account. Can't you do any better? ;-) .df dev owner prot fprot size free label DU0: System 000000 160000 8380416. 4958377. RSX11MPBL87 DU3: System 000000 160000 16777216. 8188181. BIGDISK DU12: System 000000 160000 2379776. 163315. KITS DU13: System 000000 160000 2379776. 1138358. RSXFREEV2 .set /host Host=PONDUS RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87 . All units in blocks... And yes, PONDUS is a real PDP-11/93. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful..

by b4＠gewt.net

On 16 Dec 2012, at 15:34, sampsa at mac.com wrote: Nice :) I suppose I could've created some kind of custom HD devices that SIMH supports but Steve Davidson is already freaked out by my frankenVAX creations I'm coming up with..:) Still, offers open for anyone who needs to do something odd on a VAX and needs 10+ GB of space :) Something odd, eh? Hmmmm! Does qemu exist for OpenVMS VAX? Sampsa On 16 Dec 2012, at 22:31, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-16 17:20, sampsa at mac.com wrote: In case any of you guys need a lot of space to do some VAX related stuff, I've got a 12 member, 2926056 block bound volume on KUHAVX/SIIRI. Let me know if anyone wants an account. Can't you do any better? ;-) .df dev owner prot fprot size free label DU0: System 000000 160000 8380416. 4958377. RSX11MPBL87 DU3: System 000000 160000 16777216. 8188181. BIGDISK DU12: System 000000 160000 2379776. 163315. KITS DU13: System 000000 160000 2379776. 1138358. RSXFREEV2 .set /host Host=PONDUS RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87 . All units in blocks... And yes, PONDUS is a real PDP-11/93. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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