Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
>On 2015-04-15 06:58, Dave McGuire wrote:
>> On 04/14/2015 12:24 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>> On 2015-04-14 04:53, Dave McGuire wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey folks. I'm moving some text files to an RSX system via DECnet
>>>> under Linux. The files on the RSX system are not readable; I get
>>>> "illegal record size" when trying to type them.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone hit this? I assume there's a simple solution..
>>>
>>> I have never had any luck at all transferring files from Linux to RSX.
>>>
>>> That said, what do you see if you do a DSP <file> under RSX?
>>
>> Just got back from road trip #1, only have a moment, will get back to
>> this in the morning. Here is the DSP output:
>>
>> $ dsp forth.mac
>>
>> DU:[10,1]FORTH.MAC;1
>> Size: 139./144. Created: 15-APR-2015 00:54
>> Owner: [001,010] Revised: 15-APR-2015 00:55
>> File ID: (5601,10,0) Expires: <none_specified>
>> File protection: System:RWED, Owner:RWED, Group:RWED, World:R
>> File organization: Sequential
>> File attributes: Allocation=144, Extend=0
>> Record format: Stream, maximum 255 bytes
>> Record attributes: Carriage return
>
>Cool. So the first, and most obvious, problem, is that the file is
>indeed in stream format. So no ordinary RSX tool will touch it with a
>five foot pole...
Really? So, we surely HAVE come a long way baby with VMS RMS! Still, any
stream format is a ridiculously lame way to differentiate records IMHO.
>Had you been pulling it from Linux to RSX, and initiated to transfer
>from the RSX side, you can tell NFT exactly what format you want for the
>file on the local side, when the remote side is a stream format file.
>Not sure Linux can do that if you do the transfer from the Linux side.
>
>My next suggestion is to read up on RMSCNV, on how to convert the file.
>I can never remember exactly how to use it, so I have to read every time
>I want to, but it can convert the file to another format for you.
I can't comment there either; however, if VMS CONVERT help is needed, I'm
available.
And now, back to RMS CDC.
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I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
Does anyone have the sources (I need the sources, not just binaries) for
either the PDP-11 Pascal or Modula-2 compilers? It's probably on some DECUS
tape somewhere, but I'm hoping someone can save me the trouble of searching.
BTW, I have the sources (and working binaries) for the VAX/VMS Modula-2
compiler if anybody wants it. The VAX version was adapted from the PDP-11
version, and I'd like to find the original if I can.
Thanks,
Bob
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes:
>On 04/14/2015 11:53 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote:
>>=20
>> El 14/04/2015, a les 17:25, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> va esc=
>riure:
>>> On 04/14/2015 11:00 AM, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote:
>>>>> Hey folks. I'm moving some text files to an RSX system via DECnet=20
>>>>> under Linux. The files on the RSX system are not readable; I get=20
>>>>> "illegal record size" when trying to type them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone hit this? I assume there's a simple solution..
>>>>
>>>> What are the RMS attributes? (I don=E2=80=99t know how to ask RSX to=
> show
>>>> those, unfortunately.) A possible way to get this would be a file
>>>> with =E2=80=9Cno-span=E2=80=9D records and recordsize > 512.
>>>
>>> I don't know how to ask RSX for that...I used to be a heavy user of
>>> RSX, but that was in the 80s; I seem to have forgotten nearly
>>> everything. :-(
>>>
>>=20
>> This is basically a wild guess... Have you tried to change the line ter=
>minators of your files at the Linux side? Try to convert them to 'DOS' st=
>yle and see what happens. If the RSX FAL looks for a CR to split the reco=
>rds and it does not find it perhaps the result could be just what you are=
> observing.
>
> Yup, tried that...no change. :-(
I'm working RMS right now but it is, of course, VMS. Can you get the file
copied to a VMS system?
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I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DECtec [mailto:dectec-bounces at dectec.info] On Behalf Of Mark
> Wickens
> Sent: 13 April 2015 22:15
> To: DEC discussion list.; hecnet at update.uu.se; cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: [DECtec] DEC Legacy 2015 Pictures
>
> I've uploaded some photos from the 2015 DEC Legacy event:
> http://wickensonline.co.uk/declegacy/image
>
> Had a great time - already looking forward to the next one. Many thanks to
the
> presenters (local and remote) and everyone who attended.
>
> Regards, Mark.
>
> p.s. yes, I will try and get a better gallery tool embedded into the DEC
Legacy
> site. The drupal one I'm currently using sucks.
>
>
> --
Thank you Mark for continuing to organise this event. I always look forward
to it and can't wait for the next one.
Regards
Rob
Hey,
Are there any copies of the IA64 layered products out on HECnet? I can't
seem to find an LP image containing C.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Does anyone here have gnuplot binaries for VMS on VAX? I could
compile it, but I would like to be saved that time if possible.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ/3
New Kensington, PA
I have a script I want to have resubmit itself to run every 3 hours, but can't get the relative time right...
What is the correct syntax for /AFTER= to say "3 hours from now"..?
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