From: <Paul_Koning at Dell.com>
FWIW, DMC and DMR are the same at the programmer level.
(Except for some trivial differences.) My notes say the limit on outstanding
TX or RX buffers is 7 for DMC vs. 64 for DMR. Also, BSEL3 is a read/write
reg that survives master clears on DMC but gives diag completion status on
DMR (which is how INIT.SYS tells them apart). And opcode 02 is HALTR on
DMR and reserved on DMC. Is there other stuff?
They are somewhat different at the protocol level -- DMC uses an older
version of DDCMP and has some bugs in that implementation, especially in
the "high speed" (1 Mb/s) version.
Buggy WRT dealing with correct implementations, or buggy even talking to
each other? Just curious (I have a pair of them around here somewhere).
John Wilson
D Bit
On 22 Dec 2012, at 03:07, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 22 Dec 2012, at 02:38, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 22 Dec 2012, at 02:36, G. <gerry77 at mail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:14:27 -0500, you wrote:
% DSK:MONGEN.MIC will not be written
% File DSK:MONGEN.MIC already exists
This is self explanatory: MONGEN will not overwrite MONGEN.MIC if it's already
there... I think it's done to avoid losing config data. :)
.do monbld
?MICCOF Cannot open file MIC:MONBLD.MIC - in "DO" command
Have you created MONBLD.MIC as I wrote? It's a non standard file "invented" by
me and should contain all those commands I've listed in my other message. :)
Just re-read your message and noticed my error. ;)
Now i'm trying to figure out how to use the TOPS-10 editor. ;)
I'm used to EDT instead of TECO!
HTH,
G.
http://klh10.trailing-edge.com/twonky-a11120.tar is what I'm using. Can you point out obvious stuff I missed? ;)
Seems I'm in need of a reinstall due to not having setsrc or other essential stuff to build a monitor. ;)
(finding a complete tape set on bitsavers is hard no bootable KL tapes, KS can't do networking, and the KLAD10 sets are incomplete)
On 22 Dec 2012, at 21:41, Dennis Boone <drb at msu.edu> wrote:
I'm looking for basically all the compilers (Ada, C, C++, Basic, Cobol,
Fortran, Pascal etc).
This is one of those "how pathological do any of you feel today" sorts
of questions. I went looking to see what all I might have laying
around, and there are more languages than you might remember. Posting
this to gauge interest.
A 1993/5.5 era set has at least these oddballs in addition to the above:
ops5
apl
bliss-32
cobol generator
dibol
dsm
lisp
Which lisp?
pl/i (pre-kednos)
plus at least one or two variants for VAXELN. I'm sure I missed at
least one. No clue how any of them work on more recent VMS.
De
I'm looking for basically all the compilers (Ada, C, C++, Basic, Cobol,
Fortran, Pascal etc).
This is one of those "how pathological do any of you feel today" sorts
of questions. I went looking to see what all I might have laying
around, and there are more languages than you might remember. Posting
this to gauge interest.
A 1993/5.5 era set has at least these oddballs in addition to the above:
ops5
apl
bliss-32
cobol generator
dibol
dsm
lisp
pl/i (pre-kednos)
plus at least one or two variants for VAXELN. I'm sure I missed at
least one. No clue how any of them work on more recent VMS.
De
The DECSET kit is on KUHAVX::. I put it there earlier in the week.
-Steve
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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of sampsa at mac.com
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 05:41
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] VAX Compilers now on KUHAVX::
What _IS_ missing from there is DECset? Anyone have a VAX copy?
sampsa
On 22 Dec 2012, at 12:34, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Download away, my good man.
Sampsa
On 22 Dec 2012, at 12:33, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
<jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
Al 22/12/12 11:28, En/na sampsa at mac.com ha escrit:
I managed to find some (not sure if out-of-date) compiler
kits on GORVAX:: and moved them to KUHAVX::
They can be found in KUHAVX::KAHUNA$:[DOWNLOADS] (which should be
world readable)
Thanks! My COBOL was a little bit outdated (it is from the 1998
SDL...)
On Dec 22, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: 22 December 2012 17:23
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] SIMH PDP-10 + Networking?
Is it at all possible to do networking in SIMH's PDP-10 emulator?
Turns out I need to reinstall TOPS-10. ;)
So I either need to:
1). Stage TOPS-10 in SIMH then move to KLH10's KS emulator (seems to
uses different disk format) 2). Install TOPS-10 directly in klh10 (How
would I
change tapes during runtime using KLH10?) 3). Not have networking. ;)
Is configuring networking in KLH10's KS emulation the same as using it's
KL
emulation? devdef nib et cetera?
Thanks!=
If anyone has any knowledge of getting networking running over a DMC11 on a
KS10 please let me know. I am just about to try adding the DMC11 to the KS10
emulation in SIMH. Unfortunately I fear this may not work. This is because I
have it on good authority that TOPS-10 may have a driver for the very
similar DMR11, but TOPS-20 does not have even that (or not directly anyway).
I have no knowledge of TOPS-10 and would need help to get things working
there.
FWIW, DMC and DMR are the same at the programmer level. They are somewhat different at the protocol level -- DMC uses an older version of DDCMP and has some bugs in that implementation, especially in the "high speed" (1 Mb/s) version. But those aren't visible to driver writers, though they matter if you do your own DDCMP protocol implementation.
paul
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: 22 December 2012 17:23
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] SIMH PDP-10 + Networking?
Is it at all possible to do networking in SIMH's PDP-10 emulator?
Turns out I need to reinstall TOPS-10. ;)
So I either need to:
1). Stage TOPS-10 in SIMH then move to KLH10's KS emulator (seems to
uses different disk format) 2). Install TOPS-10 directly in klh10 (How
would I
change tapes during runtime using KLH10?) 3). Not have networking. ;)
Is configuring networking in KLH10's KS emulation the same as using it's
KL
emulation? devdef nib et cetera?
Thanks!=
If anyone has any knowledge of getting networking running over a DMC11 on a
KS10 please let me know. I am just about to try adding the DMC11 to the KS10
emulation in SIMH. Unfortunately I fear this may not work. This is because I
have it on good authority that TOPS-10 may have a driver for the very
similar DMR11, but TOPS-20 does not have even that (or not directly anyway).
I have no knowledge of TOPS-10 and would need help to get things working
there.
Regards
Rob
Is it at all possible to do networking in SIMH's PDP-10 emulator?
Turns out I need to reinstall TOPS-10. ;)
So I either need to:
1). Stage TOPS-10 in SIMH then move to KLH10's KS emulator (seems to uses different disk format)
2). Install TOPS-10 directly in klh10 (How would I change tapes during runtime using KLH10?)
3). Not have networking. ;)
Is configuring networking in KLH10's KS emulation the same as using it's KL emulation? devdef nib et cetera?
Thanks!
On 2012-12-22 17:12, Dan Williams wrote:
Hi,
I picked up some new machines a few weeks ago and have finally had the
time to get them sorted. I got a Microvax 3400 and 2 4000/200's in the
slim chassis (Thanks Martin).
Unfortunately the Power supply has gone on one of the 4000's.
So I have some new nodes to add please Johnny:
51.6 VIGO Microvax 3400 VMS 7.3
51.7 LENNY 4000/200 VMS 7.3
Also I thought I join in and get a Pi, in as part of my cluster :
51.10 Ghost Raspberry pi. VMS 7.3
All registered.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
