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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: 23 December 2012 21:03
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] SIMH PDP-10 + Networking?
On 23 Dec 2012, at 16:01, "Rob Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>
wrote:
-----Original Message-----
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hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: 23 December 2012 20:13
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] SIMH PDP-10 + Networking?
On 23 Dec 2012, at 14:59, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 14:03, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 14:01, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I don't even know what that means..
Give me a bit. If i've finally figured this out it'll be on HECnet
later today.
I figured it out and got a monitor built. It just doesn't seem to
/work.
;)
Okay, i'm getting linker errors (undefined symbols, et cetera) and
it's seeming impossible to generate a TOPS-10 monitor. If anyone
wants to help further, let me know.
Just had a quick look at the manual you pointed me at. Make sure you
are following the instructions for the KS10 and not the KL10, SIMH
emulates the
KS10 only.
Actually, I was building a KL monitor because KLH10 allows me to do
DECnet.
Ah, sorry I thought you were using SIMH.
Sampsa
On 23 Dec 2012, at 20:58, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 13:49, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I want an account on the TOPS-10 machine if possible :)
I can get you one on mine today if you happen to get me a working
image that allows me to build a monitor without errors. ;)
sampsa
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:37, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Johnny,
When you get the chance, add this node for me. It's a WinNT4 Server running Pathworks that I play around with.
I wish you could join systems to domains over DECnet. ;)
Sampsa
Sampsa,
Which version of PathWorks are you running on WinNT 4.0? I may have it
here. I have V4.1 PathWorks for Windows NT.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of sampsa at mac.com
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 18:37
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] New node - BONZO2 (47.1000)
Johnny,
When you get the chance, add this node for me. It's a WinNT4 Server
running Pathworks that I play around with.
Sampsa
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 6:37 PM, <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Johnny,
When you get the chance, add this node for me. It's a WinNT4 Server running Pathworks that I play around with.
Sampsa
Hello!
Yes indeed do it. Especially since the simian who's running it for
Sampsa needs the work. (Hint: The name comes from a series of movies
that a former US President who was a reasonably good character actor
made.)
As it happens that sounds like fun, what else is it talking to and
what else did you do to bring it up?
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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 18:36
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Older VAXVMS Install kits?
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:33, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-"
<system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes:
On 12/23/2012 05:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > As i'm not getting
anywhere with my TOPS-10 endeavours, I thought i'd > try
something else:
older VAXVMS in SIMH's VAX-11/780 simulator. ;) > > 1).
What would be
the best/most interesting version to try? 2). Where > would I get
install media for these older versions? ;)
I have a bunch of older VMS distributions. I don't know
if they're
available anywhere else or not; I would assume so but am
not sure.
At least several 3.x and 4.x distributions, going back to
3.0. Let
me know if they're wanted and I can put them up somewhere.
I'd say 4.7 for speed and period-correctness, 5.5 for
featurefulness.
The last release of VMS to run on an 11/780 was, I believe, v6.2.
V7.3 should run on it.
Really? I seem to recall reading several places that 6.2/6.3
were the last to run on an -11/780.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker
VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
What will run and what is supported can be two entirely different
things!
-Steve
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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Dave McGuire
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 18:10
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Older VAXVMS Install kits?
On 12/23/2012 06:06 PM, Steve Davidson wrote:
The VAX-11/750 was (is) a DOG!
It's a dog that I love, and that particular one did an
awful lot of real work at my former employer's facility.
Running 4.7, it'd support a dozen scientists logged in all
day long running simulations in FORTRAN.
That was one of the most dependable computers I've ever
been exposed to. I took good care of it, but it took good
care of me too.
4.7 probably ran ok on that system.
It did.
5.x not so much.
Yup.
My office machine was a MicroVAX-II/GPX (dual head) with
16 megs of memory. I still have that machine - I was able
to take it
home when I left DEC. The 3600's ran just fine.
Both the UVAX-II and 3600 class machines ran fine standalone or, as
part of a cluster.
Very nice!
I've run many a MicroVAX over a lotta years, and until this
moment I considered myself to know just about everything
about them...but...Dual-head?! How? Both a VCB01 and a
VCB02 maybe? Or can you move a VCB02 to a different CSR and
tell DECwindows to find it? Do tell!
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Dual VCB02's with HUGH (and HEAVY monitors) and DECwindows-Motif. The
magic is in the configuration of DECwindows and the HW of course.
The system is running NetBSD 1.5 (headless) at the moment. I use it to
copy the virtual PDP-11/23+ (PLUTO::) to the physical drive for the
physical PDP-11/23+. Both environments use RD54's for their system
disks. You would be hard-pressed to know which environment is running -
they are almost identical in configuration and performance. It took
quite a while to find a HW and SW configuration to mimic the 11/23+, but
I think it was worth it.
-Steve
-Steve
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:33, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes:
On 12/23/2012 05:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > As i'm not getting
anywhere with my TOPS-10 endeavours, I thought i'd > try something else:
older VAXVMS in SIMH's VAX-11/780 simulator. ;) > > 1). What would be
the best/most interesting version to try? 2). Where > would I get
install media for these older versions? ;)
I have a bunch of older VMS distributions. I don't know if they're
available anywhere else or not; I would assume so but am not sure. At
least several 3.x and 4.x distributions, going back to 3.0. Let me know
if they're wanted and I can put them up somewhere.
I'd say 4.7 for speed and period-correctness, 5.5 for featurefulness.
The last release of VMS to run on an 11/780 was, I believe, v6.2.
V7.3 should run on it.
Really? I seem to recall reading several places that 6.2/6.3 were the last to run on an -11/780.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes:
On 12/23/2012 05:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > As i'm not getting
anywhere with my TOPS-10 endeavours, I thought i'd > try something else:
older VAXVMS in SIMH's VAX-11/780 simulator. ;) > > 1). What would be
the best/most interesting version to try? 2). Where > would I get
install media for these older versions? ;)
I have a bunch of older VMS distributions. I don't know if they're
available anywhere else or not; I would assume so but am not sure. At
least several 3.x and 4.x distributions, going back to 3.0. Let me know
if they're wanted and I can put them up somewhere.
I'd say 4.7 for speed and period-correctness, 5.5 for featurefulness.
The last release of VMS to run on an 11/780 was, I believe, v6.2.
V7.3 should run on it.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes:
On 12/23/2012 05:44 PM, Steve Davidson wrote: > While the 4.7 system is
good, personally, I would go with a version 5 > system. V5.5 or
V5.5-4 would be my choice. It has so many more > capabilities and
toys/tools!
But oohhhhh soooo painfully slow compared to v4.7. You wouldn't
believe the complaints I endured from my users on Monday after spending
all weekend doing an upgrade to 5.0. They loved me before that!
??? Slower? V50 introduced the modular exec.
Personally, I'd get up V6.1. Many improvements on the many look-aside
list algorithms.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
