On 25 Dec 2012, at 22:59, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
I have access to systems with lots of bandwidth, they just implement a bit of MAC filtering and have limited IPs.
I'm actually selling the London apartment and moving my boxes to a co-location facility - that should dramatically increase bandwidth.
At the moment they're on a DSL :(
Sampsa
That's already done, look at http://rhesus.sampsa.com/cgi-bin/hecnetinfo/hecnetinfo.com?q=CHIMPY
We could just add another field for LAT/LONG after location.
sampsa
On 25 Dec 2012, at 22:53, Rob Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:
I have gone ahead and added lat/long to VAX780::INFO.TXT.
Perhaps we should define some common tags and formats to make the INFO.TXT
machine readable? I am using this at the moment:
Owner: Rob Jarratt
Location: Stockport, England
Latitude: +53.3809
Longitude: -2.2172
Regards
Rob
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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: 25 December 2012 18:25
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] HECnet mapping project
On 25 Dec 2012, at 07:36, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 14:34, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Another kind of graph that would be cool (but even harder) would be to
have a map of the world, with the nodes placed out, and connections. That
kind of map would work to have everything illustrated as point-to-point
connections. But figuring out the physical locations is another story. (I
guess
the only way would be if people could put that kind of information in some
file, in a format that would be machine parseable.)
If people put their geographical location in GPS cords on their INFO.TXT
files, I don't see why this would be impossible.
I have my general area in my INFO.TXT. Nothing /exact/ though. ;)
sampsa
On 25 Dec 2012, at 22:51, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 15:40, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 22:38, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
http://www2.openvms.org/kparris/Bootcamp_2010_Using_IP_OpenVMS_Cluster_Inte…
It even mentioned hobbyist clusters over the internet as a practical implementation. ;)
I'd be up for trying a cluster over the internet
Do you have the bandwidth for a high-performance one, or would we end up with a high-latency constantly-exploding one? ;)
My London site does about 1.5 Mbps up, 17 down, local (UK) ping of about 20-30 ms, up time at the moment is 57:13:59, but that's because I rebooted the router after some changes.
On a related note: How hard would it be to modify Johnny's bridge to carry LAN-over-IP traffic? Not sure I want to upgrade my boxes to 8.4...
Sampsa
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On 25 Dec 2012, at 15:56, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 12/25/2012 03:51 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
http://www2.openvms.org/kparris/Bootcamp_2010_Using_IP_OpenVMS_Cluster_Inte…
It even mentioned hobbyist clusters over the internet as a practical implementation. ;)
I'd be up for trying a cluster over the internet
Do you have the bandwidth for a high-performance one, or would we end up with a high-latency constantly-exploding one? ;)
I have lots of bandwidth here. But keep in mind, in clustering over
Ethernet, the "L" in "LAVC" stands for "Local". ;) I really don't see
it working well at all, but that's based on having done it locally, not
from actually trying it on a WAN.
I have access to systems with lots of bandwidth, they just implement a bit of MAC filtering and have limited IPs.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 12/25/2012 03:51 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
http://www2.openvms.org/kparris/Bootcamp_2010_Using_IP_OpenVMS_Cluster_Inte…
It even mentioned hobbyist clusters over the internet as a practical implementation. ;)
I'd be up for trying a cluster over the internet
Do you have the bandwidth for a high-performance one, or would we end up with a high-latency constantly-exploding one? ;)
I have lots of bandwidth here. But keep in mind, in clustering over
Ethernet, the "L" in "LAVC" stands for "Local". ;) I really don't see
it working well at all, but that's based on having done it locally, not
from actually trying it on a WAN.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 25 Dec 2012, at 15:53, "Rob Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:
I have gone ahead and added lat/long to VAX780::INFO.TXT.
Perhaps we should define some common tags and formats to make the INFO.TXT
machine readable? I am using this at the moment:
Someone should make an INFO.TXT generator. ;)
Owner: Rob Jarratt
Location: Stockport, England
Latitude: +53.3809
Longitude: -2.2172
Regards
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: 25 December 2012 18:25
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] HECnet mapping project
On 25 Dec 2012, at 07:36, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 14:34, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Another kind of graph that would be cool (but even harder) would be to
have a map of the world, with the nodes placed out, and connections. That
kind of map would work to have everything illustrated as point-to-point
connections. But figuring out the physical locations is another story. (I
guess
the only way would be if people could put that kind of information in some
file, in a format that would be machine parseable.)
If people put their geographical location in GPS cords on their INFO.TXT
files, I don't see why this would be impossible.
I have my general area in my INFO.TXT. Nothing /exact/ though. ;)
sampsa
I have gone ahead and added lat/long to VAX780::INFO.TXT.
Perhaps we should define some common tags and formats to make the INFO.TXT
machine readable? I am using this at the moment:
Owner: Rob Jarratt
Location: Stockport, England
Latitude: +53.3809
Longitude: -2.2172
Regards
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: 25 December 2012 18:25
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] HECnet mapping project
On 25 Dec 2012, at 07:36, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 14:34, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Another kind of graph that would be cool (but even harder) would be to
have a map of the world, with the nodes placed out, and connections. That
kind of map would work to have everything illustrated as point-to-point
connections. But figuring out the physical locations is another story. (I
guess
the only way would be if people could put that kind of information in some
file, in a format that would be machine parseable.)
If people put their geographical location in GPS cords on their INFO.TXT
files, I don't see why this would be impossible.
I have my general area in my INFO.TXT. Nothing /exact/ though. ;)
sampsa
On 25 Dec 2012, at 15:40, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 22:38, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
http://www2.openvms.org/kparris/Bootcamp_2010_Using_IP_OpenVMS_Cluster_Inte…
It even mentioned hobbyist clusters over the internet as a practical implementation. ;)
I'd be up for trying a cluster over the internet
Do you have the bandwidth for a high-performance one, or would we end up with a high-latency constantly-exploding one? ;)
sampsa
On 12/25/2012 03:38 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
http://www2.openvms.org/kparris/Bootcamp_2010_Using_IP_OpenVMS_Cluster_Inte…
It even mentioned hobbyist clusters over the internet as a practical implementation. ;)
That's downright frightening. :) I may have to try that!
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 25 Dec 2012, at 15:47, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 22:45, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 12/25/2012 06:22 AM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
That is VERY cool!
-Dave
Thanks!
Basically, Brian has written some code on CHIMPY that produces output that I graph.
The grapher is more less ready - the end node scanner is still borked, waiting on Brian to fix it but it's Xmas and all :)
But it's very very close to mapping most of HECnet automagically.
One issue, can you use different colours? I have difficulty differentiating certain colours and I find it a little hard to see the differences between the lines.
