On 26 Dec 2012, at 03:08, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
I'm visiting California from time to time, so I could join something there, but apart from those two places, the only place I might be is Stockholm, Sweden. Close to Finland, but not so much else. :-)
Finland sucks man, seriously. Expensive and dull.
I suggest two meets: One in the US somewhere convenient, and a Europe/EMEA one somewhere nice and cheap like Malta or Cyprus.
Sampsa
On 2012-12-26 02:06, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 20:04, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2012-12-26 01:43, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 19:41, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2012-12-25 20:06, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Hello everyone!
I've decided to bring up the random virtual cluster I was running on a friend's server, and I want to get it connected to HECnet. ;)
The IP is static so connecting it should be easier, the server is in North Carolina. It's looking like i'll need to go install multinet on one of the cluster members as that'll be easier than bringing up a linux VM to run Johnny''s bridge. ;)
What areas are available? I'll go renumber to one of the free areas once I either remember or reset the SYSTEM password.
What about area 9, which is already allocated to you?
The area router for 9 is here at my house though, and the IP here isn't static, so it'd be a bit challenging to get that to work.
So? I don't see the problem. Have both places use the same area. Have an area router at each place (you need that anyway). Have a link between your two places. Done.
How would the link between the two places be done? I can do it via VPN for the Florida site and here, but i'd need to deal with dynamic IPs at the other site Actually no I wouldn't.
If you have a place with a dynamic IP, you already are dealing with this. How do you do it today?
I can route my house -> florida, and the NC site -> florida as well. And then from Florida -> HECnet.
Yes. That would also work.
Johnny
However, if I claim area 14, I could setup a multinet tunnel between that site and the SIMH instances running on another friend's stuff.
Thoughts?
Yeah. While we're not out of areas, I think it's time to atleast use them somewhat more efficiently than this. A new area for each place you set up is a bit much, me thinks.
Johnny
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On 2012-12-26 01:52, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On 12/25/2012 10:08 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2012-12-25 16:01, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Happy Holidays!
Next year we should organize some sort of event. :)
Any suggestions? (And I think we've already passed 10 years...)
That's as far as I got with the idea. :)
Oh, it's been more than 10 years. You and I first setup that serial link
back in the beginning of 2000 and I don't know how long you were doing
it before that!
Like I said - we've already passed 10 years. :-)
I think I'd only played a year or so before we set up the link between us, so you were there back in the stone age...
As for what to do, I think it could be fun, but I also realize that by its very nature, we are spread out over a large area. So a get together might be hard. I'd be happy to host something in Zurich, if people could make it there. I could probably get place for playing around and so on, but no real idea for people to stay. Hotels are always expensive.
I'm visiting California from time to time, so I could join something there, but apart from those two places, the only place I might be is Stockholm, Sweden. Close to Finland, but not so much else. :-)
Johnny
On 25 Dec 2012, at 20:04, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2012-12-26 01:43, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 19:41, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2012-12-25 20:06, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Hello everyone!
I've decided to bring up the random virtual cluster I was running on a friend's server, and I want to get it connected to HECnet. ;)
The IP is static so connecting it should be easier, the server is in North Carolina. It's looking like i'll need to go install multinet on one of the cluster members as that'll be easier than bringing up a linux VM to run Johnny''s bridge. ;)
What areas are available? I'll go renumber to one of the free areas once I either remember or reset the SYSTEM password.
What about area 9, which is already allocated to you?
The area router for 9 is here at my house though, and the IP here isn't static, so it'd be a bit challenging to get that to work.
So? I don't see the problem. Have both places use the same area. Have an area router at each place (you need that anyway). Have a link between your two places. Done.
How would the link between the two places be done? I can do it via VPN for the Florida site and here, but i'd need to deal with dynamic IPs at the other site Actually no I wouldn't.
I can route my house -> florida, and the NC site -> florida as well. And then from Florida -> HECnet.
However, if I claim area 14, I could setup a multinet tunnel between that site and the SIMH instances running on another friend's stuff.
Thoughts?
Yeah. While we're not out of areas, I think it's time to atleast use them somewhat more efficiently than this. A new area for each place you set up is a bit much, me thinks.
Johnny
Johnny
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
On 2012-12-26 01:43, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 19:41, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2012-12-25 20:06, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Hello everyone!
I've decided to bring up the random virtual cluster I was running on a friend's server, and I want to get it connected to HECnet. ;)
The IP is static so connecting it should be easier, the server is in North Carolina. It's looking like i'll need to go install multinet on one of the cluster members as that'll be easier than bringing up a linux VM to run Johnny''s bridge. ;)
What areas are available? I'll go renumber to one of the free areas once I either remember or reset the SYSTEM password.
What about area 9, which is already allocated to you?
The area router for 9 is here at my house though, and the IP here isn't static, so it'd be a bit challenging to get that to work.
So? I don't see the problem. Have both places use the same area. Have an area router at each place (you need that anyway). Have a link between your two places. Done.
However, if I claim area 14, I could setup a multinet tunnel between that site and the SIMH instances running on another friend's stuff.
Thoughts?
Yeah. While we're not out of areas, I think it's time to atleast use them somewhat more efficiently than this. A new area for each place you set up is a bit much, me thinks.
Johnny
Johnny
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
On 2012-12-26 00:45, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 26 Dec 2012, at 01:33, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I did said quick hack from STUPI to GW, here's the new router graph:
http://www.sampsa.com/just-routers.svg
So my suggestion to those with "weird" links that we can't crawl is that they provide us with two things:
- A list of their connections to the rest of HECnet (i.e. the area routers)
- A list of the end nodes that are connected to their area routers
Formats for these will follow, they're basically CSV.
Is this OK, Dave etc with CISCO gear?
Yuck. Seriously, if you depend on manual information, it's going to be broken sooner or later.
I'm not at all clear what the problem is, though. I can, from MIM, tell which areas are online. And for each area, you can check which nodes are online in that area. After that, it just becomes a question of figuring out how the bits are connected.
Johnny
On 12/25/2012 6:22 AM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
[Brian, please don't kill me for announcing this too early :P ]
Heh, it's ok. If I had more time I would be pimping this myself already. :)
-brian
On 12/25/2012 10:08 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2012-12-25 16:01, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Happy Holidays!
Next year we should organize some sort of event. :)
Any suggestions? (And I think we've already passed 10 years...)
That's as far as I got with the idea. :)
Oh, it's been more than 10 years. You and I first setup that serial link back in the beginning of 2000 and I don't know how long you were doing it before that!
-brian
On 2012-12-25 22:00, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 22:51, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 15:40, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 22:38, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
http://www2.openvms.org/kparris/Bootcamp_2010_Using_IP_OpenVMS_Cluster_Inte…
It even mentioned hobbyist clusters over the internet as a practical implementation. ;)
I'd be up for trying a cluster over the internet
Do you have the bandwidth for a high-performance one, or would we end up with a high-latency constantly-exploding one? ;)
My London site does about 1.5 Mbps up, 17 down, local (UK) ping of about 20-30 ms, up time at the moment is 57:13:59, but that's because I rebooted the router after some changes.
On a related note: How hard would it be to modify Johnny's bridge to carry LAN-over-IP traffic? Not sure I want to upgrade my boxes to 8.4...
About a five minute hack.
Johnny
On 25 Dec 2012, at 19:41, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2012-12-25 20:06, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Hello everyone!
I've decided to bring up the random virtual cluster I was running on a friend's server, and I want to get it connected to HECnet. ;)
The IP is static so connecting it should be easier, the server is in North Carolina. It's looking like i'll need to go install multinet on one of the cluster members as that'll be easier than bringing up a linux VM to run Johnny''s bridge. ;)
What areas are available? I'll go renumber to one of the free areas once I either remember or reset the SYSTEM password.
What about area 9, which is already allocated to you?
The area router for 9 is here at my house though, and the IP here isn't static, so it'd be a bit challenging to get that to work.
However, if I claim area 14, I could setup a multinet tunnel between that site and the SIMH instances running on another friend's stuff.
Thoughts?
Johnny
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
