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INFO.TXT, was Re: [HECnet] UPDATE: HECNET.HLP file for VMS systems

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes: On 2012-12-31 19:09, Bob Armstrong wrote: I'm not convinced that a '$ CONVERT/FDL="record; format stream_lf"' would handle that file's contents correctly. I'm pretty sure it will. Bob, could you try? Yes, CONVERT on VMS is perfectly happy to convert the original file. FWIW, that's how I created the "conventional" variable record length version that RSX likes too. Actually, what I had in mind was just changing the attributes of the existing file. A convert actually proves very little. Even less if your file actually was Stream_LF, which it looked like locally. And that would make total sense, considering the contents of the file. So, I wonder why it looks like Stream_CR when looked at from RSX. Does it look "correct" of looking over DECnet from a VMS machine. And the LF is the character that sits in the file. I think we can all agree on that. It, at this point, smells like the FAL listener on VMS is the thing that would get it wrong, but this is just guessing on my part... It's all speculation at this point. Post the output of '$ DUMP/BLOCKS' as well as '$ ANALYZE/RMS/SUMMARY' of the original file that had spawned this discussion. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

12 years, 11 months

Node DB error for STAR69

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-12-31 22:07, Mark Benson wrote: NODE NODE NODE REGISTER NAME ADDRESS OWNER TIME STAR69 6.1 Mark >>Berryman<< 12-Nov-2011 12:00:00 Spot the deliberate mistake :) Ooops. Fixed. Johnny

12 years, 11 months

INFO.TXT, was Re: [HECnet] UPDATE: HECNET.HLP file for VMS systems

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-12-31 19:09, Bob Armstrong wrote: I'm not convinced that a '$ CONVERT/FDL="record; format stream_lf"' would handle that file's contents correctly. I'm pretty sure it will. Bob, could you try? Yes, CONVERT on VMS is perfectly happy to convert the original file. FWIW, that's how I created the "conventional" variable record length version that RSX likes too. Actually, what I had in mind was just changing the attributes of the existing file. A convert actually proves very little. Even less if your file actually was Stream_LF, which it looked like locally. And that would make total sense, considering the contents of the file. So, I wonder why it looks like Stream_CR when looked at from RSX. Does it look "correct" of looking over DECnet from a VMS machine. And the LF is the character that sits in the file. I think we can all agree on that. It, at this point, smells like the FAL listener on VMS is the thing that would get it wrong, but this is just guessing on my part... Johnny

12 years, 11 months

Funky file formats, et al...

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-12-31 19:36, Bob Armstrong wrote: There s something else going on here. I m not sure who originally analyzed the file to decide that the format was Stream-CR (although given that the analysis was done on RSX, we can probably guess :-) Cool. This is become more weird all the time. WHat I reported was what was shown when doing a directory over DECnet. It's the information VMS presents. RSX is not really involved. What happens if you do a directory showing the attributes over DECnet on a VMS node? Johnny

12 years, 11 months

happy new year!

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

A healthy and happy New Year to all of you! Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Mark Wickens Verzonden: dinsdag, januari 2013 15:42 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] happy new year! On 31 Dec 2012, at 23:41, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Happy new year, my DECfetish friends! 20mins left of 2012, here. I am very drunk at the moment, but I don't mind admitting that you all have enriched my life considerably. :) -Dave Aw, bless, the hangover almost makes me tearful ;) All the best in health and happiness to you all. I promise to get a date for DEC Legacy 2013 sorted shortly! Regards, Mark.

12 years, 11 months

happy new year!

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

On 31 Dec 2012, at 23:41, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Happy new year, my DECfetish friends! 20mins left of 2012, here. I am very drunk at the moment, but I don't mind admitting that you all have enriched my life considerably. :) -Dave Aw, bless, the hangover almost makes me tearful ;) All the best in health and happiness to you all. I promise to get a date for DEC Legacy 2013 sorted shortly! Regards, Mark.

12 years, 11 months

happy new year!

by b4＠gewt.net

On 31 Dec 2012, at 23:41, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Happy new year, my DECfetish friends! 20mins left of 2012, here. I am very drunk at the moment, but I don't mind admitting that you all have enriched my life considerably. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA Happy new year! -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

12 years, 11 months

happy new year!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Happy new year, my DECfetish friends! 20mins left of 2012, here. I am very drunk at the moment, but I don't mind admitting that you all have enriched my life considerably. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 11 months

Node DB error for STAR69

by md.benson＠gmail.com

NODE NODE NODE REGISTER NAME ADDRESS OWNER TIME STAR69 6.1 Mark >>Berryman<< 12-Nov-2011 12:00:00 Spot the deliberate mistake :) -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.

12 years, 11 months

SIMH performance on OS X vs Linux

by b4＠gewt.net

On 31 Dec 2012, at 15:59, sampsa at mac.com wrote: A lot faster than I thought It /is/ running on an octa-core VM with 1G RAM and tremendously fast disks .:P sampsa On 31 Dec 2012, at 22:58, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 31 Dec 2012, at 15:55, sampsa at mac.com wrote: 5-10 mins to log in? maelona:~ b4$ time ssh b4 at melody.vax.gimme-sympathy.org Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) VAX Operating System, Version V7.3 b4 at melody.vax.gimme-sympathy.org's password: Last interactive login on Friday, 28-DEC-2012 20:52:01.67 1 login failure since last successful login $ log Connection to melody.vax.gimme-sympathy.org closed.3 real 0m50.385s user 0m0.015s sys 0m0.006s sampsa On 31 Dec 2012, at 22:17, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 31 Dec 2012, at 15:16, "Bob Armstrong" <bob at jfcl.com> wrote: BTW, at 20 VUPS, SSH2 is almost usable. I assume you're talking about the Multinet SSH server - I use it all the time. Even at 7-10 simulated VUPs, the only thing that takes a long time is logging in. Once you're connected, it's just fine. How bad would it be at 1 VUPS? ;) Bob -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

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