On 31 Dec 2012, at 23:41, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
Happy new year, my DECfetish friends! 20mins left of 2012, here. I
am very drunk at the moment, but I don't mind admitting that you all
have enriched my life considerably. :)
-Dave
Aw, bless, the hangover almost makes me tearful ;)
All the best in health and happiness to you all. I promise to get a date for DEC Legacy 2013 sorted shortly!
Regards, Mark.
On 31 Dec 2012, at 23:41, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
Happy new year, my DECfetish friends! 20mins left of 2012, here. I
am very drunk at the moment, but I don't mind admitting that you all
have enriched my life considerably. :)
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
Happy new year!
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Happy new year, my DECfetish friends! 20mins left of 2012, here. I
am very drunk at the moment, but I don't mind admitting that you all
have enriched my life considerably. :)
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
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STAR69 6.1 Mark >>Berryman<< 12-Nov-2011 12:00:00
Spot the deliberate mistake :)
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On 31 Dec 2012, at 15:59, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
A lot faster than I thought
It /is/ running on an octa-core VM with 1G RAM and tremendously fast disks .:P
sampsa
On 31 Dec 2012, at 22:58, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 31 Dec 2012, at 15:55, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
5-10 mins to log in?
maelona:~ b4$ time ssh b4 at melody.vax.gimme-sympathy.org
Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) VAX Operating System, Version V7.3
b4 at melody.vax.gimme-sympathy.org's password:
Last interactive login on Friday, 28-DEC-2012 20:52:01.67
1 login failure since last successful login
$ log
Connection to melody.vax.gimme-sympathy.org closed.3
real 0m50.385s
user 0m0.015s
sys 0m0.006s
sampsa
On 31 Dec 2012, at 22:17, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 31 Dec 2012, at 15:16, "Bob Armstrong" <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
BTW, at 20 VUPS, SSH2 is almost usable.
I assume you're talking about the Multinet SSH server - I use it all the
time. Even at 7-10 simulated VUPs, the only thing that takes a long time is
logging in. Once you're connected, it's just fine.
How bad would it be at 1 VUPS? ;)
Bob
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Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
A lot faster than I thought...
sampsa
On 31 Dec 2012, at 22:58, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 31 Dec 2012, at 15:55, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
5-10 mins to log in?
maelona:~ b4$ time ssh b4 at melody.vax.gimme-sympathy.org
Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) VAX Operating System, Version V7.3
b4 at melody.vax.gimme-sympathy.org's password:
Last interactive login on Friday, 28-DEC-2012 20:52:01.67
1 login failure since last successful login
$ log
Connection to melody.vax.gimme-sympathy.org closed.3
real 0m50.385s
user 0m0.015s
sys 0m0.006s
sampsa
On 31 Dec 2012, at 22:17, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 31 Dec 2012, at 15:16, "Bob Armstrong" <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
BTW, at 20 VUPS, SSH2 is almost usable.
I assume you're talking about the Multinet SSH server - I use it all the
time. Even at 7-10 simulated VUPs, the only thing that takes a long time is
logging in. Once you're connected, it's just fine.
How bad would it be at 1 VUPS? ;)
Bob
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
On 31 Dec 2012, at 15:55, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
5-10 mins to log in?
maelona:~ b4$ time ssh b4 at melody.vax.gimme-sympathy.org
Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) VAX Operating System, Version V7.3
b4 at melody.vax.gimme-sympathy.org's password:
Last interactive login on Friday, 28-DEC-2012 20:52:01.67
1 login failure since last successful login
$ log
Connection to melody.vax.gimme-sympathy.org closed.3
real 0m50.385s
user 0m0.015s
sys 0m0.006s
sampsa
On 31 Dec 2012, at 22:17, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 31 Dec 2012, at 15:16, "Bob Armstrong" <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
BTW, at 20 VUPS, SSH2 is almost usable.
I assume you're talking about the Multinet SSH server - I use it all the
time. Even at 7-10 simulated VUPs, the only thing that takes a long time is
logging in. Once you're connected, it's just fine.
How bad would it be at 1 VUPS? ;)
Bob
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
5-10 mins to log in?
sampsa
On 31 Dec 2012, at 22:17, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 31 Dec 2012, at 15:16, "Bob Armstrong" <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
BTW, at 20 VUPS, SSH2 is almost usable.
I assume you're talking about the Multinet SSH server - I use it all the
time. Even at 7-10 simulated VUPs, the only thing that takes a long time is
logging in. Once you're connected, it's just fine.
How bad would it be at 1 VUPS? ;)
Bob
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
On 31 Dec 2012, at 15:44, <Paul_Koning at Dell.com> wrote:
On Dec 29, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 29 Dec 2012, at 14:29, <Paul_Koning at Dell.com> wrote:
...
This changes with Phase V, since that doesn't change the MAC address (if it doesn't have to be Phase IV compatible, that is). Also, unlike Phase IV, Phase V supports end nodes with more than one interface.
Can you have different addresses per interface in Phase V?
No, that's an IP mistake DECnet did not adopt. Addresses are node addresses, not interface addresses. The reason Phase V handles multiple interfaces (whether on the same LAN or not) is that it doesn't set the MAC address, as Phase IV does. Instead, the nodes keep a table of node address to MAC address mappings -- analogous to the ARP table in IP, but derived from (a) hello messages and (b) incoming traffic rather than from broadcasts.
Aaaaah. I understand now. Thanks.
paul
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http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
On Dec 29, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 29 Dec 2012, at 14:29, <Paul_Koning at Dell.com> wrote:
...
This changes with Phase V, since that doesn't change the MAC address (if it doesn't have to be Phase IV compatible, that is). Also, unlike Phase IV, Phase V supports end nodes with more than one interface.
Can you have different addresses per interface in Phase V?
No, that's an IP mistake DECnet did not adopt. Addresses are node addresses, not interface addresses. The reason Phase V handles multiple interfaces (whether on the same LAN or not) is that it doesn't set the MAC address, as Phase IV does. Instead, the nodes keep a table of node address to MAC address mappings -- analogous to the ARP table in IP, but derived from (a) hello messages and (b) incoming traffic rather than from broadcasts.
paul
