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_PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On 1/7/2013 10:09 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Now that it's ambiguous, all of you.;) I like hearing how people have configured their networks and wired them in with all their stuff. Well, since you asked. :) Cable modem plugged into Cisco 1841 router. Cisco 1841 router plugged into Cisco 3560g switch. (VLAN trunked) VLAN trunks extend into VMware environment where I run a pair of OpenBSD+pf boxes for redundant firewalls, so logically it's 1841 <-> firewalls <-> switch. Cisco 1811w plugged into 3560g for wifi access. Other than that it's all hosts plugged into the 3560g or connected via wifi. Oh, and OSPF keeps everything sane. -brian

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_PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by ian＠platinum.net

On 2013-01-07, at 7:11 PM, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: I just tried an snmpwalk looking for anything slightly DEC-related and I can't find any data that looks like decnet addresses or anything. To answer my own question, I found a reference at Cisco for something they call OLD-CISCO-DECNET-MIB ftp://ftp.cisco.com/pub/mibs/v1/OLD-CISCO-DECNET-MIB.my Maybe that's the SNMP answer? Ian

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_PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by tim＠sneddon.id.au

It is also dependant on the class of router. The SOHO 800 series routers (like what I use) won't do DECnet. Tim. Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia arc Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote: On 1/7/2013 10:01 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote: Hello! Define how close to current is your router's operating system? My Cisco is runnning 12.2(40). According to the documentation, anything newer than 9.1 (ANCIENT) supports it. I've got an 1841 running 12.4(25f). It is also reported to also still work in 15. -brian

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_PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by ian＠platinum.net

Hmmm, Just had a thought. There's a Cisco emulator out there (GNS3 is the GUI, but there's command-line stuff that's lower footprint) that emulates Cisco very well - a 7200-series router is supported. All it needs is a ROM image. I wonder if emulation would be powerful enough to pass Decnet traffic? Cisco Decnet routing without a physical Cisco? Ian On 2013-01-07, at 7:09 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 7 Jan 2013, at 22:06, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 7 Jan 2013, at 21:56, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Hi! It's a 7206VXR running close-to-current IOS; it is my production site router. Arrrrrrgh. Now i'm curious as to how you have your network set up and wired. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA On Jan 7, 2013, at 9:36 PM, Tim Sneddon <tim at sneddon.id.au> wrote: Hi Dave, Maybe I've not been following some of the threads well enough, but I was wondering what kind of Cisco equipment are you using to set this up? Is it recent or something like a DECbrouter? Regards, Tim. Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia arc Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Yeah more and more of us are using Ciscos to do this. We really need to find a way around this issue that doesn't involve manual maintenance of routing info. -Dave On 01/07/2013 09:25 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote: Sampsa, I appear to be missing. Are you able to add me? My area router is A42RTR 42.1023. It is adjacent to SUN 52.1 and GW 61.1. Unfortunately for your scanning program, 42.1023 is a Cisco router. Ian On 2013-01-07, at 4:50 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote: I contributed bits and pieces. Feed back welcome. http://rhesus.sampsa.com/prov.svg sampsa -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project. Hello! Who? Ian? Me? Dave? (Who has a problem with entities from off of earth banging on his network.) Now that it's ambiguous, all of you. ;) I like hearing how people have configured their networks and wired them in with all their stuff. -- ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project. --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=FB289884594011E2B…

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_PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by ian＠platinum.net

On 2013-01-07, at 7:04 PM, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote: My plan is to try and get the info via SNMP or the alternative was a non-privledged account doing, well, pretty much that right there. :) I have a bit more work to do until I'm ready to tackle the cisco issue though. Hang tight. Let me know if I can offer any help. I can give you access to my router if required. I just tried an snmpwalk looking for anything slightly DEC-related and I can't find any data that looks like decnet addresses or anything. SNMP would also require public IP connectivity, which isn't strictly required for decnet to work. For example, my Cisco is using a 192.168 address, and I forward GRE packets (for the tunnels) from my firewall. Ian

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_PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by b4＠gewt.net

On 7 Jan 2013, at 22:06, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 7 Jan 2013, at 21:56, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Hi! It's a 7206VXR running close-to-current IOS; it is my production site router. Arrrrrrgh. Now i'm curious as to how you have your network set up and wired. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA On Jan 7, 2013, at 9:36 PM, Tim Sneddon <tim at sneddon.id.au> wrote: Hi Dave, Maybe I've not been following some of the threads well enough, but I was wondering what kind of Cisco equipment are you using to set this up? Is it recent or something like a DECbrouter? Regards, Tim. Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia arc Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Yeah more and more of us are using Ciscos to do this. We really need to find a way around this issue that doesn't involve manual maintenance of routing info. -Dave On 01/07/2013 09:25 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote: Sampsa, I appear to be missing. Are you able to add me? My area router is A42RTR 42.1023. It is adjacent to SUN 52.1 and GW 61.1. Unfortunately for your scanning program, 42.1023 is a Cisco router. Ian On 2013-01-07, at 4:50 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote: I contributed bits and pieces. Feed back welcome. http://rhesus.sampsa.com/prov.svg sampsa -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project. Hello! Who? Ian? Me? Dave? (Who has a problem with entities from off of earth banging on his network.) Now that it's ambiguous, all of you. ;) I like hearing how people have configured their networks and wired them in with all their stuff. -- ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

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_PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 7 Jan 2013, at 21:56, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Hi! It's a 7206VXR running close-to-current IOS; it is my production site router. Arrrrrrgh. Now i'm curious as to how you have your network set up and wired. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA On Jan 7, 2013, at 9:36 PM, Tim Sneddon <tim at sneddon.id.au> wrote: Hi Dave, Maybe I've not been following some of the threads well enough, but I was wondering what kind of Cisco equipment are you using to set this up? Is it recent or something like a DECbrouter? Regards, Tim. Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia arc Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Yeah more and more of us are using Ciscos to do this. We really need to find a way around this issue that doesn't involve manual maintenance of routing info. -Dave On 01/07/2013 09:25 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote: Sampsa, I appear to be missing. Are you able to add me? My area router is A42RTR 42.1023. It is adjacent to SUN 52.1 and GW 61.1. Unfortunately for your scanning program, 42.1023 is a Cisco router. Ian On 2013-01-07, at 4:50 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote: I contributed bits and pieces. Feed back welcome. http://rhesus.sampsa.com/prov.svg sampsa -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project. Hello! Who? Ian? Me? Dave? (Who has a problem with entities from off of earth banging on his network.) -- ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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_PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On 1/7/2013 10:01 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote: Hello! Define how close to current is your router's operating system? My Cisco is runnning 12.2(40). According to the documentation, anything newer than 9.1 (ANCIENT) supports it. I've got an 1841 running 12.4(25f). It is also reported to also still work in 15. -brian

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_PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On 1/7/2013 9:57 PM, Ian McLaughlin wrote: On 2013-01-07, at 6:31 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Yeah more and more of us are using Ciscos to do this. We really need to find a way around this issue that doesn't involve manual maintenance of routing info. Perhaps an agreed-upon entry in INFO.TXT ? That's still manually managed, but it's managed by the individual link owners. INFO.TXT where? I won't be able to fetch it from the cisco. :) The "SHOW DECNET NEIGHBOR" and "SHOW DECNET ROUTE" commands are both non-priviledged. Perhaps we could allow a 'trusted' network mapping daemon the ability to get a remote console on the Cisco and execute and parse these commands? My plan is to try and get the info via SNMP or the alternative was a non-privledged account doing, well, pretty much that right there. :) I have a bit more work to do until I'm ready to tackle the cisco issue though. Hang tight. -brian ps: I've used my freakin' brain (hey, it's been known to happen!) and separated the data collection from the data processing in my code. Now I don't have to wait 15 minutes for it to walk the network every time i change something. The data collection code is pretty solid at this point and it's the processing code that's getting the workout currently. This will speed up development TREMENDOUSLY.

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_PROVISIONAL_ map of HECnet, courtesy largely of Brian H.

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: Hello! Define how close to current is your router's operating system? My Cisco is runnning 12.2(40). According to the documentation, anything newer than 9.1 (ANCIENT) supports it. Ian Hello! Okay good. Actually Ian I expected that. That was aimed at Dave, who's sitting in the middle of a snowman storm of problems. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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