I get:
$ patch monitor.exe
PATCH Version 5-05 20-June-1991
%PATCH-I-NOLCL, image does not contain local symbols
%PATCH-I-NOGBL, some or all global symbols not accessible
PATCH>exam 4158+33e
00004496: 00000000
Erik
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 05:21:13PM +0000, lee.gleason at comcast.net wrote:
----- Original Message -----
MISSY::SYSTEM$ monitor ethernet
MONITOR> exit
MISSY::SYSTEM$ monitor notthere
%MONITOR-E-INVCLSNM, class-name "NOTTHERE" is invalid or not uniquely identified
This is on VMS 8.4.
Looks like there's some support left then. I'm willing to be that some very similar patches would turn on whatever support is left. The old patches were.like this...naturally, this is useless on modern versions of VMS, but it hints what sort of data structure to look for and what bit to drop to reenable these turned off classes - bit nine set was what keeps a class from displaying. I'd guess a dump of the image would find a table that had some 11's and 211's at some fixed spacing..
$ Patch Monitor.exe
REPLACE 4158+33e
211
exit
11
exit
replace 4158+391
211
exit
11
exit
replace 4158+48a
235
exit
35
exit
replace 4158+583
211
exit
11
exit
replace 4158+629
211
exit
11
exit
replace/long 170f6 ! additional for V4.6
00000000
exit
00000660 ! specify valid protocol value for $QIOW to hack deuna
exit
update
exit
$ exit
--
Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR
Control-G Consultants
lee.gleason at comcast.net
On 2013-01-14 18:38, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On 1/14/2013 12:38 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 14 Jan 2013, at 12:37, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
What's the best alpha emulator to go with?
What OS?
VMS for now, but I wouldn't mind playing with Tru64 at some point.
Maybe he wanted to know which OS you wanted to run the Alpha emulator on... :-)
Johnny
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On 14 Jan 2013, at 12:38, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
On 1/14/2013 12:38 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 14 Jan 2013, at 12:37, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
What's the best alpha emulator to go with?
What OS?
VMS for now, but I wouldn't mind playing with Tru64 at some point.
How about the host OS? :p
If you just want to play with VMS for alpha, I can throw you an account on my es40.
-brian
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http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
On 1/14/2013 12:38 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 14 Jan 2013, at 12:37, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
What's the best alpha emulator to go with?
What OS?
VMS for now, but I wouldn't mind playing with Tru64 at some point.
-brian
On 14 Jan 2013, at 12:37, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
What's the best alpha emulator to go with?
What OS?
-brian
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
On the Alpha with VMS 6.1 I got exactly the same.
Erik
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 06:29:22PM +0100, G. wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:20:43 +0100, you wrote:
I had to try too, under VAX/VMS 5.5-2:
Me too! VAX/VMS V4.7 :)
$ monitor ethernet
MONITOR> monitor ethernet
%MONITOR-E-NOCLASSES, no classes specified
MONITOR> monitor blah
%MONITOR-E-INVCLSNM, class-name "BLAH" is invalid or not uniquely identified
Who offers more? :P
G.
On 14 Jan 2013, at 12:29, G. <gerry77 at mail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:20:43 +0100, you wrote:
I had to try too, under VAX/VMS 5.5-2:
Me too! VAX/VMS V4.7 :)
$ monitor ethernet
MONITOR> monitor ethernet
%MONITOR-E-NOCLASSES, no classes specified
MONITOR> monitor blah
%MONITOR-E-INVCLSNM, class-name "BLAH" is invalid or not uniquely identified
Who offers more? :P
I can try on VMS 3.x I have a SIMH instance of it laying around.
I can't get 1.5 to boot without a BUG CHECK though...
G.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:20:43 +0100, you wrote:
I had to try too, under VAX/VMS 5.5-2:
Me too! VAX/VMS V4.7 :)
$ monitor ethernet
MONITOR> monitor ethernet
%MONITOR-E-NOCLASSES, no classes specified
MONITOR> monitor blah
%MONITOR-E-INVCLSNM, class-name "BLAH" is invalid or not uniquely identified
Who offers more? :P
G.
MISSY::SYSTEM$ monitor ethernet
MONITOR> exit
MISSY::SYSTEM$ monitor notthere
%MONITOR-E-INVCLSNM, class-name "NOTTHERE" is invalid or not uniquely identified
This is on VMS 8.4.
Looks like there's some support left then. I'm willing to be that some very similar patches would turn on whatever support is left. The old patches were.like this...naturally, this is useless on modern versions of VMS, but it hints what sort of data structure to look for and what bit to drop to reenable these turned off classes - bit nine set was what keeps a class from displaying. I'd guess a dump of the image would find a table that had some 11's and 211's at some fixed spacing..
$ Patch Monitor.exe
REPLACE 4158+33e
211
exit
11
exit
replace 4158+391
211
exit
11
exit
replace 4158+48a
235
exit
35
exit
replace 4158+583
211
exit
11
exit
replace 4158+629
211
exit
11
exit
replace/long 170f6 ! additional for V4.6
00000000
exit
00000660 ! specify valid protocol value for $QIOW to hack deuna
exit
update
exit
$ exit
--
Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR
Control-G Consultants
lee.gleason at comcast.net
